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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

Per 3downnation, these are our free agents ... basically everyone but Zach, Vaval, Peterson, Clercius, Randolph, Wallace, Pokey Wilson, MCI, Allen, T. Jones, and Leroux the longsnapper.  

Quarterback

Chris Streveler (A)

Running back

Brady Oliveira (N)

Receiver

Kody Case (A)
Nic Demski (N)
Dillon Mitchell (A)
Dalton Schoen (A)
Jerreth Sterns (A)
Keric Wheatfall (A)

OL

Stanley Bryant (A)
Tui Eli (N)
Chris Kolankowski (N)
Eric Lofton (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)

Defensive line

Willie Jefferson (A)
Cameron Lawson (N)
Tanner Schmekel (N)
Jake Thomas (N)
James Vaughters (A)
Jamal Woods (A)

Linebacker

Tanner Cadwallader (N)
Shayne Gauthier (N)
Kyrie Wilson (A)

Defensive back

Terrell Bonds (A)
Michael Griffin II (A)
Nick Hallett (N)
Evan Holm (A)
Demerio Houston (A)
Redha Kramdi (N)
Enock Makonzo (N)
Deatrick Nichols (A)
Jamal Parker (A)

Specialist

Sergio Castillo (A)
Jamieson Sheahan (G)

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18 hours ago, Pete said:

I don't know why we aren't playing Clercius more inside almost like a tight end on some sets. With his size could be beneficial unless he can't block, then we also have a coaching issue

They tried pretty hard to make that work later in 24 and earlier last season when the injuries started to hit. Can't win enough routes to bring value. The home game against Calgary was basically the end of that experiment. Hard to put guys inside that aren't a threat. He's been ok on the outside when he gets forgotten where he doesn't really have to win with leverage. Clercius might get a shot to be more of a vertical threat with Condell because IMO we don't really have anyone but Wilson who is in the current group.

Kinda pissed we didn't grab Daniel Wiebe in the late rounds last season instead of drafting a DL who clearly wasn't invested in being a pro player. Will be great depth for Sask especially at Y/R slot spots, throw him out at Z if you need. Too bad Rohan Jones likely won't ever play up here. He's an actual tight end/H back type who is also a big threat from any receiver spot or the backfield.

16 hours ago, Pete said:

Theres a reason he was only targeted 12 times. Very few of those were contested catches . For Corcoron to be effective he needs to learn how to block

You mean the 5th option doesn’t get as many targets as the 1st or 2nd option. Shocking. Learn to block. Sounded like maybe being a rookie in a hogan led O taught players nothing. I’m not sure how anyone can **** on a rookie in a hogan led O. It’s just crazy. If you talking about O problems last year, our 5th receiver option is prob near the bottom of the list in terms of issues that plagued the team all year. I mean I like Demski but if he’s your number 1 guy for most the year, there’s bigger issues than the 5th receiver option. The Jamie Stoddard comparison to these guys are interesting as 5th option guys really. Seems like Corcoran was on pace if he had 40 receptions like Clercius to about 400 yards like Clercius had. Stoddards good years were around 400. Looks like he had a 500 yard receiving season also tho but as 5th options cuz that’s what Clercius and Corcoran should be, that’s pretty much the norm. If your 5th option has more yards it means options 1 to 4 suck.

Edited by Goalie

So the rumoured fight between Zach and Kevens wasn’t even a fight? It was a Kevens said something and Zach got butt hurt? Oh boy that’s worse than a fight cuz they grown men so criticism should not be a problem. I don’t buy it tho. I’m not sure this happened honestly. Kevens struggled last year like everyone did, Zach was bad also. When everyone is bad, it’s hard to properly assess what actually happened. Corcoran might have started cuz Keven’s was banged up or even struggling hard with the O. The fact Brady Zach and others called out the O multiple times and not directly but just about called out hogan by name a few times and weren’t benched or given repercussions makes me think there was no argument or disagreement. It was just a struggling player being replaced by another guy. Maybe looking for a guy to step up cuz outside of Demski and Wilson nobody did including Kevens. It’s not like we lost cuz Corcoran started. Christ.

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2 hours ago, Booch said:

And prob was justified criticism..as he had a ton of crap throws...grow a pair ZC and do better...u too Osh

And best hands on team

And have ability to do some

Nothing after catch...hes a total non factor...but tries hard lol

One mistake constitutes a benching...but other favs can just plain suck..and make mistakes and be exposed...yet are safe as safe can be...thats some good coaching right there...

Explain kolo..Thomas..amoung others...

Thomas theme song:

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Thomas theme song:

3 hours ago, Goalie said:

You mean the 5th option doesn’t get as many targets as the 1st or 2nd option. Shocking. Learn to block. Sounded like maybe being a rookie in a hogan led O taught players nothing. I’m not sure how anyone can **** on a rookie in a hogan led O. It’s just crazy. If you talking about O problems last year, our 5th receiver option is prob near the bottom of the list in terms of issues that plagued the team all year. I mean I like Demski but if he’s your number 1 guy for most the year, there’s bigger issues than the 5th receiver option. The Jamie Stoddard comparison to these guys are interesting as 5th option guys really. Seems like Corcoran was on pace if he had 40 receptions like Clercius to about 400 yards like Clercius had. Stoddards good years were around 400. Looks like he had a 500 yard receiving season also tho but as 5th options cuz that’s what Clercius and Corcoran should be, that’s pretty much the norm. If your 5th option has more yards it means options 1 to 4 suck.

Really? I don't care if you're the 5th option, 12 targets still suck. And they tried to bring Corcoran in to help block on end arounds etc. and he wasn't good there either. If he had shown anything in terms of making a catch in traffic areas maybe he'd have shown more potential.

But you are right in that really the 5th receiver behind Wilson, White Demski,and Nield doesn't need to show much, but the issue becomes when a Nield or Demski goes down and Corcoran has to elevate his game, nothing I've seen says he can do that

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Edited by Pete

12 targets in 18 games or less than 1 a game shows that a) You can't get open and b) Teams don't view you as a threat.

Clercius had 57 in 18 games or over 3 a game. Cobb had 8 in 4 games or 2 per game.

Clercius best season is still not as good as Jamie stoddards best season. I think really what it comes down 2 is both aren’t really good enough. 57 targets. 40 catches. That’s not great.

5 hours ago, Goalie said:

Clercius best season is still not as good as Jamie stoddards best season. I think really what it comes down 2 is both aren’t really good enough. 57 targets. 40 catches. That’s not great.

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year.

its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

On 2026-02-14 at 2:51 PM, SectionKBlackout said:

He criticized a Collaros throw and was benched for the playoffs.

Any actual proof?

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year.

its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

Yeah clercius basically makes a play with his targets...and is a guy teams need to pay attention to, as has been seen in his very short time starting with several big plays

And hes just basically in early stages if his career and with more use..will put up more numbers

Not his fault hes never the primary guy...has a qb who tends to zero in and force most balls to his one or two favorites as other guys are running free...proper use and actual focused plays and he would get it done...dude has best hands on the team after Lawler left

Corcoran should be injury depth at most...has shown nothing really and if his game isnt elevated this camp he should be gone or on the PR..he can't up his metrics..is what he is and will basically just be a place holder in a group of 5..and be a 1 or 2 catch guy a game for 18 yards and really be no threat...Clercius can and has gotten yac..can run away from and run over guys as we have seen..feed him some balls...see the results

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

Any actual proof?

Yeah...id like to see this as was first i heard of it...and in all honesty...ZC deserved a ton of criticism for a whack of throws....and the inability at times to even get a throw off due to his tunnel vision of his fav target and not seeing the other open guys

22 hours ago, Booch said:

Explain kolo..Thomas..amoung others...

There isn't any explanation, other than failure to recognize the player(s) is incompetent....What measurables used by Osh to make his decisions are tough to pin point....The 2 players you mention were obviously not good enough ....one due to 'best before date' long expired, and the other was out of his depth at the position or as some have put it 'just plain crap' ...I don't know why they were not treated the same as Clercius and benched....only Osh can answer that...It certainly smacks of favoritism and if you allow that to permeate your club ....one day it will all catch up....Seeing as both players are no longer on our roster maybe the coach has had a revelation...One can only hope ....I won't hold my breath

52 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Any actual proof?

None because this isn’t even what was reported. It was reported that Clercius made some mistakes and was criticized by Collaros for those mistakes. No where has it been reported that Clercius criticized Collaros.

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

Any actual proof?

from the 3 Down article posted on the last page. It was Collaros speaking about Clercius not the other way around.

Kevens Clercius and Joey Corcoran both started games at field-side wideout in 2025, though Clercius was publicly berated by Zach Collaros for a mistake late in the regular-season and subsequently benched for the playoffs.

3 hours ago, SectionKBlackout said:

from the 3 Down article posted on the last page. It was Collaros speaking about Clercius not the other way around.

Kevens Clercius and Joey Corcoran both started games at field-side wideout in 2025, though Clercius was publicly berated by Zach Collaros for a mistake late in the regular-season and subsequently benched for the playoffs.

pretty bad dynamics that a HC would succeed to another players bitching....and that sure doesnt sound FIFO 'sh to me of ZC....Maybe some players should have berated his crap play/errors and got him parked on bench...should go both ways ....no?....sad state that apparently is

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

clercius is 26, and started for a bit over a year and a half. Stoddard was in the league 9 years and broke 500 yards twice. Clercius last year was better than 5 of stoddards 9 years in the league and on the heels of his 6th best year.

its a terrible comparison, if any thing corcoran is a poor man’s stoddard in a far better era for ni wrs.

If anything some of you are complaining cuz you don’t know what else to do and you gotta pretend you have all the answers when you criticize O’Shea and Walters for doing exactly what you do but so be it as the off season is long. I personally don’t think Clercius or Corcoran are good enough starting Canadians and never will be. Clercius looks slow and Corcoran looked lost. Clercius and Corcoran won’t be around 9 years. So ya terrible comparison as stoddard was better and knew his role. TBH I think we start 2 Canadian receivers and Clercius and Corcoran aren’t starting.

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1 hour ago, Booch said:

pretty bad dynamics that a HC would succeed to another players bitching....and that sure doesnt sound FIFO 'sh to me of ZC....Maybe some players should have berated his crap play/errors and got him parked on bench...should go both ways ....no?....sad state that apparently is

Or maybe the second year player was making too many mistakes so the coach benched him.

Hope Clercius can take the next step this season. Lots of tools. Look great at times, but something happened where he felL out of favour

6 hours ago, Stickem said:

There isn't any explanation, other than failure to recognize the player(s) is incompetent....What measurables used by Osh to make his decisions are tough to pin point....The 2 players you mention were obviously not good enough ....one due to 'best before date' long expired, and the other was out of his depth at the position or as some have put it 'just plain crap' ...I don't know why they were not treated the same as Clercius and benched....only Osh can answer that...It certainly smacks of favoritism and if you allow that to permeate your club ....one day it will all catch up....Seeing as both players are no longer on our roster maybe the coach has had a revelation...One can only hope ....I won't hold my breath

What it says to me is that FIFO was way overrated with Osh. You can't expect players to fitin if certain players are coaches favourites. If a player should be benched & demoted then that is what should happen. Not given special chances or more opportunities to **** up. We saw that with a number of players over the years. You build a culture as a Head Coach then you have to make sure that it never changes. I think that's what happened to the Bombers. It went from FIFO in 2019 to Old Boyz Club in 2023-25. Younger guys saw & experienced that & wanted out. Needed a reset.

4 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

What it says to me is that FIFO was way overrated with Osh. You can't expect players to fitin if certain players are coaches favourites. If a player should be benched & demoted then that is what should happen. Not given special chances or more opportunities to **** up. We saw that with a number of players over the years. You build a culture as a Head Coach then you have to make sure that it never changes. I think that's what happened to the Bombers. It went from FIFO in 2019 to Old Boyz Club in 2023-25. Younger guys saw & experienced that & wanted out. Needed a reset.

Sure does feel like a reset has happened. Here’s hoping it results in us climbing back up to dominance, the gold standard of the league where we belong.

Part of what FIFO was here...was being key was a bog solid group of guys in prime...setting the tone and walking the walk and new guys coming in seen it...and fell in line...Premium guys kicking butt cause they earned it from play

Then it slowly eroded away....positions were given due to past history, and being a favorite...even if not warranted and guys busting their asses also seen it, and never got a chance and yes...it caused rifts and frustrated attitudes...and why wouldn't it?

Our younger up and coming guys who could have kept the dominance going walked for opp's elsewhere, or we wouldn't pay and cheaped out in order to keep far too long declining guys, and guys not good enough just because they were here from before and the HC liked them...all the while ignoring our actual true depth (having guts on roster isnt depth if you dont use them, or have faith they are good enough) eroded into league worst

The holdover's got complacent and too comfortable knowing that thy just had to show up and keep the narrative here and they were safe....and the coaching staff did jack all to advance and evolve as well...What have we seen from osh with a unique decision...gutsy or ballsy call to take a game over...Pulling a player mid game....or parking a vet for poor performance?...We havnt...but we saw a lor of deflection...smug attitude and a lot of perplexed almost lost looks on the sidelines when things were spiralling down hill and weren't working no more, and no ability to pull out of it...Just the old "we will watch the film...guys will figure out what went wrong and fix it"...and it never happened

Thats the condensed in a nutshell look at 2022 to now

2 hours ago, Booch said:

Part of what FIFO was here...was being key was a bog solid group of guys in prime...setting the tone and walking the walk and new guys coming in seen it...and fell in line...Premium guys kicking butt cause they earned it from play

Then it slowly eroded away....positions were given due to past history, and being a favorite...even if not warranted and guys busting their asses also seen it, and never got a chance and yes...it caused rifts and frustrated attitudes...and why wouldn't it?

Our younger up and coming guys who could have kept the dominance going walked for opp's elsewhere, or we wouldn't pay and cheaped out in order to keep far too long declining guys, and guys not good enough just because they were here from before and the HC liked them...all the while ignoring our actual true depth (having guts on roster isnt depth if you dont use them, or have faith they are good enough) eroded into league worst

The holdover's got complacent and too comfortable knowing that thy just had to show up and keep the narrative here and they were safe....and the coaching staff did jack all to advance and evolve as well...What have we seen from osh with a unique decision...gutsy or ballsy call to take a game over...Pulling a player mid game....or parking a vet for poor performance?...We havnt...but we saw a lor of deflection...smug attitude and a lot of perplexed almost lost looks on the sidelines when things were spiralling down hill and weren't working no more, and no ability to pull out of it...Just the old "we will watch the film...guys will figure out what went wrong and fix it"...and it never happened

Thats the condensed in a nutshell look at 2022 to now

What I also read ad nasuem here from a few select posters on this forum is our depth at most positions is not good enough to replace/sub-out certain starters (e.g., Nose tackle, QB1 etc.). 'It's the best we got and stop suggesting the back-ups to come in cuz they aren't worthy and if you suggest bringing in a back-up you don't know football'. Okay is it asking too much that we build a team with depth we are comfortable in bringing in when needed outside of injury to the starter or is that just a naive pipe dream?

Edited by HardCoreBlue

35 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

What I also read ad nasuem here from a few select posters on this forum is our depth at most positions is not good enough to replace/sub-out certain starters (e.g., Nose tackle, QB1 etc.). 'It's the best we got and stop suggesting the back-ups to come in cuz they aren't worthy and if you suggest bringing in a back-up you don't know football'. Okay is it asking too much that we build a team with depth we are comfortable in bringing in when needed outside of injury to the starter or is that just a naive pipe dream?

Walters and Osh got too hung up on these draft guys who were ST demons in college, but didn't project to anything more than that, and didnt see past that and were too reliant on the belief that our starters were all top grade like in 2019....and didnt see where we may need coverage.

Any player basically can play ST's but not every player can contribute with reps on offence or defence....so draft the best projected player(s)overall who can push a starter, and actually succeed one or take reps....not the other way around

Case in point as just one example..Hallet can kill it on ST's and has made huge plays....but he kills us on defence and seeing him always in chase as guys rape him on the field is just sickening...I can not recall a single defensive impact play he has made...but recall a ton of bad ones...The fact we would put him in as the 7th...8th db in some our schemes when we didnt need to for ratio, and had better guys on the sidelines was just baffling...like why?

Well the depth also took a hit because as your vets and starters eat up more of your cap you don't have the same depth. 2019, 2021 those teams were deep as hell.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

Well the depth also took a hit because as your vets and starters eat up more of your cap you don't have the same depth. 2019, 2021 those teams were deep as hell.

Also big struggle with US scouting. Let Hardrick walk and replace him with a C player. Let Lawler walk and replace him with Wheatfall. Too many of our replacements haven’t been good players let alone impactful ones.

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Also big struggle with US scouting. Let Hardrick walk and replace him with a C player. Let Lawler walk and replace him with Wheatfall. Too many of our replacements haven’t been good players let alone impactful ones.

So who should lose their job? Or is it their hands are tied, they have too many challenges attracting available players to play here, nothing they can do? Or what is the main struggle here?

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Well the depth also took a hit because as your vets and starters eat up more of your cap you don't have the same depth. 2019, 2021 those teams were deep as hell.

Okay fair statement so quality depth is out of the question cuz we need to eat our cap to get quality starters. Yes?

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