Banjo Bowl GDT

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

6 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

If you're going to blitz a veteran QB not named Zach Collaros, you're going to get torched in this league.  You need to get pressure with 4-5 (5 would be with a blitz).

FIFY

[wbbfan]

Just now, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:

Serious question.

I am not saying this is how it is, but:

If Klye was disgruntled with Wade and the team, and he wanted to sabotage our hosting year to shitvon them- what would he have done differently?

our draft was good, that wouldn’t happen. we wouldn’t have brought back some guys like rando, vanterpool etc. 

 Also, walters wouldn’t do that. 

[Booch]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

But you get into a froth about that.  What is Jefferson doing?  What is Vaughters doing?  What is Kyrie Wilson doing?  

Thomas is basically a gap filler that sticks on his assignment.  Worrying about the 20th, 25th, 43rd player on the roster when our top 10-15 guys are outclassed on a weekly basis is missing the forest for the trees.

This is a bad team because those top guys do not deliver and do not exist in areas like receiving corps, LB corps.

Is it just that...or poorly coached too...and not put in positions to.succed...or a lil of both

I'd say 60/40...60 on coaching ...40 on players under performance...then again that can be 100 attributed to coaching...as they rostered them

We need major changing...players...coaching...and our philosophy on how to go about things

Just now, wbbfan said:

our draft was good, that wouldn’t happen. we wouldn’t have brought back some guys like rando, vanterpool etc. 

 Also, walters wouldn’t do that. 

Its coaching....and the lack of awareness to see certain players are not good enough...and reluctance to try others...

[SpeedFlex27]

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

our draft was good, that wouldn’t happen. we wouldn’t have brought back some guys like rando, vanterpool etc. 

 Also, walters wouldn’t do that. 

Walters just seemed disconnected this off season like he didn't care. Maybe he know he's done & managed that way. I mean, last time Miller didn't exactly give him a ringing endorsement when he signed just a two year deal. 

[Booch]

The whole off season was odd...and off

[Noeller]

It is what it is... We move on to next week. Hope Zach is back and we can get back up above .500.....

[wbbfan]

8 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Walters just seemed disconnected this off season like he didn't care. Maybe he know he's done & managed that way. I mean, last time Miller didn't exactly give him a ringing endorsement when he signed just a two year deal. 

 

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

The whole off season was odd...and off

i think we peaked in terms of how out of touch we are with the rest of our league. we’ve been used to over paying role guys and promoting them after paying them. thing is, teams aren’t coming for those guys any more. We are wasting our best talent on the bench and pr, and not retaining our top free agents like lawler. over paying our mid tier guys, and losing/not replacing our top guys, has left us in deep trouble. 

We need change at this point. pick some guys and send them packing. and i’m not just talking players. 

 

The season is about to slip away or we don’t turn things around drastically. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

Danny McManus really should have been gone after 2023.  They have struggled to back fill Americans since 2022 aside from a small group who are CFL quality players.

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

5 minutes ago, Noeller said:

It is what it is... We move on to next week. Hope Zach is back and we can get back up above .500.....

How. Does One. Do. That. 

No OC.

No QB.

No Pass Rush.

No Pass Pro.

No Run game. 

 

Until 2 thirds of the above is deal with- we are ******. 

 

 

[HardCoreBlue]

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

But you get into a froth about that.  What is Jefferson doing?  What is Vaughters doing?  What is Kyrie Wilson doing?  

Thomas is basically a gap filler that sticks on his assignment.  Worrying about the 20th, 25th, 43rd player on the roster when our top 10-15 guys are outclassed on a weekly basis is missing the forest for the trees.

This is a bad team because those top guys do not deliver and do not exist in areas like receiving corps, LB corps, Canadian OL we have are terrible.

uh oh. I’m getting into it with @JuranBoldenRules.  I don’t think i’m frothing well maybe a bit but yes i’m isolating on one player. Yes obviously he is no where near the only problem. Yes our top guys need to perform better on both sides of the ball. Yes i knew you would through the gap sound argument at me. Yes this is a team game with so many moving parts so not missing the forest through the trees. But controlling for all this if you can say continuing to play Vaval at DB would be insane (isolating on one lower rated player) it’s fair to say continuing to play JT (low rated player) at NT is insane regardless of where you would rank them. We are hiding our worst player at starting NT and i feel that’s disrespectful to the position and how important it is and i’m not even necessarily interested in that position but do know how important it is.

[JuranBoldenRules]

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

uh oh. I’m getting into it with @JuranBoldenRules.  I don’t think i’m frothing well maybe a bit but yes i’m isolating on one player. Yes obviously he is no where near the only problem. Yes our top guys need to perform better on both sides of the ball. Yes i knew you would through the gap sound argument at me. Yes this is a team game with so many moving parts so not missing the forest through the trees. But controlling for all this if you can say continuing to play Vaval at DB would be insane (isolating on one lower rated player) it’s fair to say continuing to play JT (low rated player) at NT is insane regardless of where you would rank them. We are hiding our worst player at starting NT and i feel that’s disrespectful to the position and how important it is and i’m not even necessarily interested in that position but do know how important it is.

Thomas isn't in the top 10 worst players on this team regardless of nationality.  He's just an easy target to make a point because he's an old, white Canadian guy with his gut hanging out.

Vaval playing every down at corner as a total mark for opposing offense is a way bigger problem in terms of winning and losing.  We get Sask on their own 1, two plays at Vaval and they're 85 yards down the field.

I wish Jake Thomas was the worst player on this team because we'd be in contention then.

Edited 4 hours ago by JuranBoldenRules

[HardCoreBlue]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

Thomas isn't in the top 10 worst players on this team regardless of nationality.  He's just an easy target to make a point because he's an old, white Canadian guy with his gut hanging out.

Nope not to me has nothing to do with him being white and with his body shape. Weird you say that.

And yes he is definitely in the top ten worst player player category who starts on this team.

Anywhoo Go Bombers.

4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Thomas isn't in the top 10 worst players on this team regardless of nationality.  He's just an easy target to make a point because he's an old, white Canadian guy with his gut hanging out.

Vaval playing every down at corner as a total mark for opposing offense is a way bigger problem in terms of winning and losing.  We get Sask on their own 1, two plays at Vaval and they're 85 yards down the field.

I wish Jake Thomas was the worst player on this team because we'd be in contention then.

Sure Vaval got torched but where was the pressure on Harris or is this just on Vaval? I thought this was the ultimate team game?

[Tracker]

50 minutes ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

*Playoffs 

With Edmonton, BC, Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa being the way they are. we are likely to make the playoffs and stall there.

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Nope not to me has nothing to do with him being white and with his body shape. Weird you say that.

And yes he is definitely in the top ten worst player player category who starts on this team.

Anywhoo Go Bombers.

The main point is that the team isn't good enough.  Using Thomas as a focal point for that is nuts.

Our OL is a mess, we have probably 2 CFL level receivers dressed, our backup QB's are borderline useless as passers and football players currently (Streveler obviously a weapon pre knee explosion), we have basically no difference makers on D aside from Nichols, Holm, Kramdi.  Jones is an average MAC.  Griffin is a piece, doesn't take the ball away.  Nichols doesn't really either. 

But yeah, Jake Thomas and 50 of his best buds....horrible team.

[HardCoreBlue]

Just now, JuranBoldenRules said:

The main point is that the team isn't good enough.  Using Thomas as a focal point for that is nuts.

Our OL is a mess, we have probably 2 CFL level receivers dressed, our backup QB's are borderline useless as passers and football players currently (Streveler obviously a weapon pre knee explosion), we have basically no difference makers on D aside from Nichols, Holm, Kramdi.  Jones is an average MAC.  Griffin is a piece, doesn't take the ball away.  Nichols doesn't really either. 

But yeah, Jake Thomas and 50 of his best buds....horrible team.

I guess you didn’t read my point about him obviously not being the only problem.

[Tracker]

I caught O'Shea's post-game interview. The interview was short, O'Shea was very curt in his replies and evasive. He said that both recent games were closely played and it all came down to the Riders making a "couple more plays" than the Bombers. And no, he didn't think losing Collaros changed the Bomber game plan. Sadly, he was probably right.

[Subzero]

Forgive me if this was mentioned..but when the riders were on the 1 yard line..how did they not know they were going to throw deep down the sideline?!? 1000% knew that was coming on the first play. 

[HardCoreBlue]

28 minutes ago, Noeller said:

It is what it is... We move on to next week. Hope Zach is back and we can get back up above .500.....

There is absolutely no way ZC should play another down this year or possibly ever. He literally was knocked unconscious (at least that’s what it really looked like) and with his history of concussions I continue to fear for his quality of life after football. I love what he has done for this organization but enough is enough.

[Brandon]

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

There is absolutely no way ZC should play another down this year or possibly ever. He literally was knocked unconscious (at least that’s what it really looked like) and with his history of concussions I continue to fear for his quality of life after football. I love what he has done for this organization but enough is enough.

ZC is signed for 2026.    Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!@

[Noeller]

Hopefully he can return healthy... Family and health are always the most important things. We know he'll definitely try and come back stronger than ever. 

[Tracker]

49 minutes ago, Booch said:

Is it just that...or poorly coached too...and not put in positions to.succed...or a lil of both

I'd say 60/40...60 on coaching ...40 on players under performance...then again that can be 100 attributed to coaching...as they rostered them

We need major changing...players...coaching...and our philosophy on how to go about things

Its coaching....and the lack of awareness to see certain players are not good enough...and reluctance to try others...

I suggest it is hubris, plain and simple. Walters is to blame for letting things come to this, but O'shea's ego will not allow him to accept that his judgement  has become and likely always was flawed. As we age, we become more and more set into a our core personalities.  Stubbornness/determination is probably a valuable asset as a player but a liability as a coach. The Willy/Nichols incident when O'Shea was fairly new as the Bomber head coach was very telling.

[HardCoreBlue]

3 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

There is absolutely no way ZC should play another down this year or possibly ever. He literally was knocked unconscious (at least that’s what it really looked like) and with his history of concussions I continue to fear for his quality of life after football. I love what he has done for this organization but enough is enough.

You’re laughing at me being concerned about his quality of life after taking another of many over his career hellish hits, a lot of them resulting in concussions that more than likely will not turn out well for him? Wow.

[Tracker]

Just now, Noeller said:

Hopefully he can return healthy... Family and health are always the most important things. We know he'll definitely try and come back stronger than ever. 

Concussions are nothing you can train to overcome, and every concussion leaves the victim more vulnerable to the next one. Collaros must be pretty close to his limit if he is not there already. I recall Matt Dunnigan sayin in a n interview that he was still experiencing the effects long, long after. 

[SpeedFlex27]

26 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Thomas isn't in the top 10 worst players on this team regardless of nationality.  He's just an easy target to make a point because he's an old, white Canadian guy with his gut hanging out.

Vaval playing every down at corner as a total mark for opposing offense is a way bigger problem in terms of winning and losing.  We get Sask on their own 1, two plays at Vaval and they're 85 yards down the field.

I wish Jake Thomas was the worst player on this team because we'd be in contention then.

Thomas is in the Top 10 worst. he shouldn't be here. He should retire or be cut. he did nothing today except bull rush all game, penterate maybe 3 yards before getting stood up & stopped. That's all he does. Thomas brings nothing to our D. 

6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

You’re laughing at me being concerned about his quality of life after taking another of many over his career hellish hits, a lot of them resulting in concussions that more than likely will not turn out well for him? Wow.

He doesn't sound like he's laughing to me. 

[Noeller]

We'll see if it is actually concussion. Though I suppose they'll never say for sure. He'll definitely be trying to play again this year. The fact that he ran off the field left me hopeful.