BC SUCKS at Bombers GDT

[Fatty Liver]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

No one has ever said oshea can't coach. Only complaints have been about subpar roster management and if you think there's no validity to that you have had your head in the sand the whole time. 

Overall dude is still a great coach,  but he could be even better if he didn't have a penchant for wasting roster spots.

O'Shea has nothing to do the playbook other than monitoring it's overall direction, he let's his coordinators handle the details, the same with personnel other than ratio concerns, he's not likely telling them who to play and who to sit.

[TommyClements]

1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

No one has ever said oshea can't coach. Only complaints have been about subpar roster management and if you think there's no validity to that you have had your head in the sand the whole time. 

Overall dude is still a great coach,  but he could be even better if he didn't have a penchant for wasting roster spots.

This take I can get behind. 
it’s the constant negativity of some posters, basically making O’Shea out to be a simpleton who plays old, injured guys just because he likes them that gets tiresome.

Thursday was a fabulous game that I didn’t expect the Bombers to win, especially once Brady went down. Surely O’Shea gets some credit for that, even from posters who don’t like him?

[Booch]

13 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

With all due respect, every thread I read all has Booch vs O'Shea sprinkled in it. 

and.....point?...I applaud him too where and when warranted

But I also not a panty waisted boot licker who thinks he does nothing wrong and is perfect. and right all the yime.....and sole reason we successful....cause thats just a load of....use your own descritive word

And as hard as it is for some of you to believe...we have had a lot of success...some  of it directly because of him...some of it in spite of some things he did....and quite a bit at the start of the run with an exceptional roster of veteran players in their prime...we also had a lot of failure not related to him at all....also some (at the worst possible time) totally related to him....and we got in a bad spot roster wise over last few yrs with a lack of depth in regards to guys who could step in....relying too much on aged vets on the decline over younger guys....which crippled our roster...and thats on him

But....before 1/3 of u get yer panties all twisted up ...he also has saw some errors in his way....Camp this yr as opposed to cruising and coasting through last yrs...purged some old talent .....allowed guys to compete for spots and actually put some in...all good in my books but he should have done it completely yho and gt it over with

Do you really think sending jake away and replacing him with...any new young Canadian would relly affect us in a negative way??...like really?...And would 3rd yr Ayers and Jonathon Jones not give us more than T.Jones and Wilson?.....could have PR'd them..1 game em all yr in case of injury or 6 game them even tho not hurt if they agree....and if they didnt...well maybe they need not be here as part of the team

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

No one has ever said oshea can't coach. Only complaints have been about subpar roster management and if you think there's no validity to that you have had your head in the sand the whole time. 

Overall dude is still a great coach,  but he could be even better if he didn't have a penchant for wasting roster spots.

who is this Local dude?. He sure under some bonnets

1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:

O'Shea has nothing to do the playbook other than monitoring it's overall direction, he let's his coordinators handle the details, the same with personnel other than ratio concerns, he's not likely telling them who to play and who to sit.

a HC of a pro football team essentially does have some say and kinda "signs off" on it....A good coach will not meddle, but a good coach also has input and if the shceme...philosophy...or game plan goes off the rails or sucks...would def be in the ear's and saying WTF u guys doing 

[Booch]

5 hours ago, Goalie said:

2 and 6 I thought was because every receiver got hurt really and Brady was also hurt early. That played a significant role. How is camp too easy when nobody really goes to check it out ever? I mean a few people give their opinion and it’s taken as gospel on here. I’m not sure where this relaxed camp thing came from but I can almost guarantee it was never a thing. Cuz 3 or 4 people right. But unless they at camp every day, they aren’t, they just guessing cuz some people on here think they are wade really. And to each their own but at times it’s a whole lot of just bullshit for the sake of it. There’s always something. Bombers didn’t even really make the playoffs when I first became a fan. We had a long ass grey cup drought even that ended somewhat recently and since its ended we’ve been in every grey cup game since. I mean really. Maybe some perspective is needed. 

I was at most of last yrs camp....so I can tell you it was a joke....I also snapped the ball to the other punter on the secondary field on several occasions and know exactly how much better he was

 

7 hours ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

I get that Osh and the club are intentionally vague when it comes to injury reports to protect individual privacy…Whatever. 

But, why then, does the BB site choose to post the Lions shill’s (Lalji) provisional diagnosis about BO’s condition?

Im guessing that Farhan gets his info from inside sources, but why are the BB endorsing that opinion if they are concerned about player privacy?

take it for what it's worth but from what I hear...and talked too it was a partially separated shoulder...and as a running back of BO's style thats a lil issue you wanna let heal right up and be 100 percent certain before he goes back on feild....not sure who Farhan's source is and if he knows the issue other than shoulder....but he wasnt making it up guessing

Also...for what it's worth if it was a play-off game they woulda gave him a lil something something and played him until it became a problem

4 hours ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

The point is: Why is the club posting Dr. Lalji’s report when they aren’t willing to give one of their own. 

we the only club that doent really...And that's Osh being osh...figures it gives us an advantage?...or just does it to irritate people....something he likes to do actually

1 hour ago, BBlink said:

Had to think about this for a bit but it really makes the most sense. We have enough DB depth with Griffin and Hallett. We would only have to start playing with the ratio on offense if Peterson gets hurt. Then we have the option of Chris Ike or Logan depending on how the game is going and we can put in Wallace, Eli or Corcaron to manage the ratio. 

we have depth  fore sure...But Hallett should have been another "moved on from" guy too....he is what he is now....and we can find better

1 hour ago, TommyClements said:

This take I can get behind. 
it’s the constant negativity of some posters, basically making O’Shea out to be a simpleton who plays old, injured guys just because he likes them that gets tiresome.

Thursday was a fabulous game that I didn’t expect the Bombers to win, especially once Brady went down. Surely O’Shea gets some credit for that, even from posters who don’t like him?

show instances where he didn't do that.....and then show instances where he has/had?....then re-visit the tiresome part...cause it is yeah tiresome seeing the HC keep making the same dumb mistake

[Goalie]

SOS. Pete and Repeat

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[BBlink]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

 

we have depth  fore sure...But Hallett should have been another "moved on from" guy too....he is what he is now....and we can find better

Oh yeah. Special teamer for sure. Can play safety in a pinch which is all we'd ask from him. Unfortunately we got bit pretty bad with the injuries to Haggerty and Kelly. 

[wbbfan]

3 hours ago, Booch said:

I was at most of last yrs camp....so I can tell you it was a joke....I also snapped the ball to the other punter on the secondary field on several occasions and know exactly how much better he was

 

take it for what it's worth but from what I hear...and talked too it was a partially separated shoulder...and as a running back of BO's style thats a lil issue you wanna let heal right up and be 100 percent certain before he goes back on feild....not sure who Farhan's source is and if he knows the issue other than shoulder....but he wasnt making it up guessing

Also...for what it's worth if it was a play-off game they woulda gave him a lil something something and played him until it became a problem

we the only club that doent really...And that's Osh being osh...figures it gives us an advantage?...or just does it to irritate people....something he likes to do actually

we have depth  fore sure...But Hallett should have been another "moved on from" guy too....he is what he is now....and we can find better

show instances where he didn't do that.....and then show instances where he has/had?....then re-visit the tiresome part...cause it is yeah tiresome seeing the HC keep making the same dumb mistake

I barely went last year. Was just a waste of time. This year was a great camp. In general they are a far cry from what they used to be, but this camp was about as good as it gets these days. 
 

I love Halletts effort, at this point he’s a last Canadian on the roster type. Only a teams guy, a good one still but no upside left and no role to fill on D. 
 It makes sense to have him on while makonzo and Kelly recover. Especially since we are carrying Shay/smith, and 2 imp db back ups. 
 

If haggerty was healthy I’d put him on over Hallett though. Idk if he’s legit injured or not though. Ball even has upside I might give him a look over Hallett eventually. 

38 minutes ago, BBlink said:

Oh yeah. Special teamer for sure. Can play safety in a pinch which is all we'd ask from him. Unfortunately we got bit pretty bad with the injuries to Haggerty and Kelly. 

Not much of a S these days. Barely still a teams guy. 

[HardCoreBlue]

5 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

O'Shea has nothing to do the playbook other than monitoring it's overall direction, he let's his coordinators handle the details, the same with personnel other than ratio concerns, he's not likely telling them who to play and who to sit.

I think I agree with your thought about the playbook but not so much about the personnel. I think he has a lot of influence in who sees the field and who stands on the sideline.

[Fatty Liver]

49 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

I think I agree with your thought about the playbook but not so much about the personnel. I think he has a lot of influence in who sees the field and who stands on the sideline.

No doubt O'Shea is the main determiner of the personnel that make the team, but I can't imagine a worse way to interfere than telling the coordinators who they should play where once the lineup is established, especially on D, when they're switching personnel so often.  Bet he confirms the player ratio and health status and allows them to do whatever they want with the personnel available for that game.  He's said a million times, he trusts his coordinators.

[HardCoreBlue]

16 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

No doubt O'Shea is the main determiner of the personnel that make the team, but I can't imagine a worse way to interfere than telling the coordinators who they should play where once the lineup is established, especially on D, when they're switching personnel so often.  Bet he confirms the player ratio and health status and allows them to do whatever they want with the personnel available for that game.  He's said a million times, he trusts his coordinators.

He’s a strong influencer on whether certain  players see or don’t see the field guaranteed imo. 

[SpeedFlex27]

9 hours ago, TommyClements said:

it’s the constant negativity of some posters, basically making O’Shea out to be a simpleton who plays old, injured guys just because he likes them that gets tiresome.

 

The 2023 Grey Cup game says hi. So does Dalton Schoen, Brandon Alexander & Adam Bighill.

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2025-06-13 at 7:10 PM, TommyClements said:

 Bombers beat Lions without top qb and rb .. local dude who posts all day every day says it shows O’Shea can’t coach. 
Carry on.

Who is "local dude"?