2025 CFL (Non-Bombers) Season

[Booch]

2 hours ago, johnzo said:

Arbuckle has a calf strain, so Doege will start for the Argos this week against Als.

Dinwiddie's ability to roll with a backup QB  gets another test this week.  

https://3downnation.com/2025/09/16/toronto-argonauts-expected-to-start-qb-jarret-doege-against-montreal-alouettes-report/

thats a good thing...we need T.O to lose and desperately need to beat Ottawa to keep a few games between us and them as we are likely gonna have to cross over.....and that prob our best route for any success in post season as we aont winning 2 on the road in the west unless both teams ahead of us lose their starting Q.B and maybe some other key piece...and even then, I cant see success attainable

Maybe we become the first crosover team to make it in history...into our own barn too....that be a good story after all this crappola

[17to85]

10 minutes ago, Booch said:

thats a good thing...we need T.O to lose and desperately need to beat Ottawa to keep a few games between us and them as we are likely gonna have to cross over.....and that prob our best route for any success in post season as we aont winning 2 on the road in the west unless both teams ahead of us lose their starting Q.B and maybe some other key piece...and even then, I cant see success attainable

Maybe we become the first crosover team to make it in history...into our own barn too....that be a good story after all this crappola

I'd rather make it in the west and got into calgary and Regina and beat those assholes when it matters. 

[Booch]

20 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

I'd rather make it in the west and got into calgary and Regina and beat those assholes when it matters. 

would love that as well...but man we gotta be realistic...as we are now...and obviously no intent to bring anyone in....that's not happening

and definitely not too late....what we have...4...5 games left when Maston and Taylor stepped in and turned our season on defence?

DT's and ends....bull dozing rb....easiest guys to integrate with minimal practice/time in the CFL....X receiver too

[Goalie]

They aren’t gonna do things the way some of you want. The d since younger took over has not been about sacks or pressure. It’s been about coverage really. Our DBs were real good the past couple of years. The DL has been bad since younger took over tho and the difference this year isn’t lack of pressure. It’s our DBs aren’t as good. Especially the cbs who give up 2 3 4 explosion plays a game. They weren’t doing that the past couple of seasons. 

[Blue28]

1 minute ago, Goalie said:

They aren’t gonna do things the way some of you want. The d since younger took over has not been about sacks or pressure. It’s been about coverage really. Our DBs were real good the past couple of years. The DL has been bad since younger took over tho and the difference this year isn’t lack of pressure. It’s our DBs aren’t as good. Especially the cbs who give up 2 3 4 explosion plays a game. They weren’t doing that the past couple of seasons. 

Sorry Goalie, I disagree with this. The DL has been ineffective this year. The DBs had some weak links and are being corrected. There is no pressure - even nominal from the DL. You cannot win when the QB regularly gets 5 steamboats, every down, every game.

But the D has not been as much of an issue as the O. Look at our second half points - and look at our number of turnovers. 

We need something to change - demote Hogan and give Jackson a chance. Make some changes on both sides of the ball, when able - Jake Thomas, a loyal, hard working guy does not have the stones now - he just doesn't. Vaughters and Willie are no longer every down players - good for 50%. Many of the players we brought in as free agents have not worked out, and we have had a rash of injuries - and our QB play has diminished behind an OL that is no longer effective. 

You cant fix this in a day...but make a few changes and try it out - why are we still running with Ayers at DL? Why are we still forcing Canadian depth into starting positions - when we have not even given our other Canadian depth an opportunity to see how they do (even at 20% reps a game). 

We love what the mafia has done here - we want them to succeed - but they can't be stubborn and hold fast to what is NOT working - we just want them to show some sort of flexibility.

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, Blue28 said:

Sorry Goalie, I disagree with this. The DL has been ineffective this year. The DBs had some weak links and are being corrected. There is no pressure - even nominal from the DL. You cannot win when the QB regularly gets 5 steamboats, every down, every game.

But the D has not been as much of an issue as the O. Look at our second half points - and look at our number of turnovers. 

We need something to change - demote Hogan and give Jackson a chance. Make some changes on both sides of the ball, when able - Jake Thomas, a loyal, hard working guy does not have the stones now - he just doesn't. Vaughters and Willie are no longer every down players - good for 50%. Many of the players we brought in as free agents have not worked out, and we have had a rash of injuries - and our QB play has diminished behind an OL that is no longer effective. 

You cant fix this in a day...but make a few changes and try it out - why are we still running with Ayers at DL? Why are we still forcing Canadian depth into starting positions - when we have not even given our other Canadian depth an opportunity to see how they do (even at 20% reps a game). 

We love what the mafia has done here - we want them to succeed - but they can't be stubborn and hold fast to what is NOT working - we just want them to show some sort of flexibility.

Agreed

with lack of pressure.....no rushed passes...no disruption of the QB....all time to throw...DB's will look bad....just way it is

And a couple simple changes...who know's the results but you need to try....because why do you have guys hanging around then?....but continuing to do the same thing...thats been failing...who keeps doing that?

And really....can it be any worse???

[HardCoreBlue]

19 minutes ago, Goalie said:

They aren’t gonna do things the way some of you want. The d since younger took over has not been about sacks or pressure. It’s been about coverage really. Our DBs were real good the past couple of years. The DL has been bad since younger took over tho and the difference this year isn’t lack of pressure. It’s our DBs aren’t as good. Especially the cbs who give up 2 3 4 explosion plays a game. They weren’t doing that the past couple of seasons. 

To defend the DB's knowing they've contributed their fair share to our current situation you can't cover forever like an olineman can't hold his block forever.

[johnzo]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

thats a good thing...we need T.O to lose and desperately need to beat Ottawa to keep a few games between us and them as we are likely gonna have to cross over.....and that prob our best route for any success in post season as we aont winning 2 on the road in the west unless both teams ahead of us lose their starting Q.B and maybe some other key piece...and even then, I cant see success attainable

for the sake of the league I was kinda hoping that the Argos would ride Arbuckle for the rest of the season and then quietly move on from the Chad.  Arbuckle getting hurt messes with this plan, but yeah, you're right, upside to the Blue.

[17to85]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

They aren’t gonna do things the way some of you want. The d since younger took over has not been about sacks or pressure. It’s been about coverage really. Our DBs were real good the past couple of years. The DL has been bad since younger took over tho and the difference this year isn’t lack of pressure. It’s our DBs aren’t as good. Especially the cbs who give up 2 3 4 explosion plays a game. They weren’t doing that the past couple of seasons. 

Doesn't matter if they do what we want or not, all we're saying is, if they used their roster better they could get more out of their defensive line and improve the defense dramatically. 

Cfl field is too big to never pressure a qb. 

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, johnzo said:

for the sake of the league I was kinda hoping that the Argos would ride Arbuckle for the rest of the season and then quietly move on from the Chad.  Arbuckle getting hurt messes with this plan, but yeah, you're right, upside to the Blue.

I think it speaks volumes that Kelly is still not good to go after all this time.