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Put all your Non-Back-to-Back Champion discussion in here. 

21 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

He was a D3 receiver. Never played pro football. Never played qb. His offense is based on his knowledge as a receiver. He isn't a qb coach. Jacques Chapdelaine was the same way. A receiver at SFU & the CFL. Never coached qbs. His offense was geared to what he knew as a receiver. You can ask anyone who played for Jacques at the qb position. It was a complex offense not qb friendly. 

Yep. 100 percent. And to give him credit where it's due he can draw up a playbook. 

Bill Walsh June Jones mouse Davis a lot of the innovators on offense failed as qbs either in college or early in the pros. 

Sean mcvay is a offensive modern guru who is great with qbs and didn't play qb. He was also a failed college wr. But he is a disciple of Shanahan who was a qb. Plop doesn't have a coaching lineage to fall back on. Over coming not playing qb and not having that former qb great coach teacher is pretty near impossible to over come. 

Chip Kelly was a db. Don coryell was a hb. Woody Hayes was a tackle. Andy Reid was a tackle too. But that's early generation spread offense with coaches who qbd above their lineages. 

9 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yep. 100 percent. And to give him credit where it's due he can draw up a playbook. 

Bill Walsh June Jones mouse Davis a lot of the innovators on offense failed as qbs either in college or early in the pros. 

Sean mcvay is a offensive modern guru who is great with qbs and didn't play qb. He was also a failed college wr. But he is a disciple of Shanahan who was a qb. Plop doesn't have a coaching lineage to fall back on. Over coming not playing qb and not having that former qb great coach teacher is pretty near impossible to over come. 

Chip Kelly was a db. Don coryell was a hb. Woody Hayes was a tackle. Andy Reid was a tackle too. But that's early generation spread offense with coaches who qbd above their lineages. 

Reid coached under Mike Holmgren. He brought that knowledge of the West Coast Offense with him to Philly. I'm not sure if he still runs that offense as Eric Bienemy is the OC in Kansas City.

 

1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Reid coached under Mike Holmgren. He brought that knowledge of the West Coast Offense with him to Philly. I'm not sure if he still runs that offense as Eric Bienemy is the OC in Kansas City.

 

Good point. The amount of great ocs who didn't play qb and didn't have a qb with a great system teach them is tiny. It's like trying to make all pro in the nfl being 100 lbs soaking wet. 

If plop could recognize his limitations and bring in a guy like a younger Dinwiddie help make the playbook but let his oc call the game and coach qbs he could be successful. He is a good personnel coach. But that wouldn't happen. Even if he wanted it I don't think it's possible with the coaching cap. 

21 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Yep. 100 percent. And to give him credit where it's due he can draw up a playbook. 

Bill Walsh June Jones mouse Davis a lot of the innovators on offense failed as qbs either in college or early in the pros. 

Sean mcvay is a offensive modern guru who is great with qbs and didn't play qb. He was also a failed college wr. But he is a disciple of Shanahan who was a qb. Plop doesn't have a coaching lineage to fall back on. Over coming not playing qb and not having that former qb great coach teacher is pretty near impossible to over come. 

Chip Kelly was a db. Don coryell was a hb. Woody Hayes was a tackle. Andy Reid was a tackle too. But that's early generation spread offense with coaches who qbd above their lineages. 

Funny thing about Sean Mcvay is he beat out Calvin Johnson who arguably is the most dominant receiver of all time for Georgia states player of the year back in high school. 

Edited January 20, 20224 yr by Arnold_Palmer

The Saskatchewan Roughriders have announced they've signed OL Na'Ty Rodgers, who started some games for the #Redblacks last season. #CFL

lol....Thats inspiring 

 

Based on his play in the playoffs the past few years it doesn't seem like he wants to. 

1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Funny thing about Sean Mcvay is he beat out Calvin Johnson who arguably is the most dominant receiver of all time for Georgia states player of the year back in high school. 

Omg that's hilarious I'd never heard that before thanks for sharing. 

It's a pick em between moss and Megatron imo. But I'd probably go with Megatron. Watching him play it looked like he could've kicked it into another gear and gone all Michal Jordan any time he wanted. Those two wrs are just from another planet. 

37 minutes ago, Booch said:

The Saskatchewan Roughriders have announced they've signed OL Na'Ty Rodgers, who started some games for the #Redblacks last season. #CFL

lol....Thats inspiring 

Funny thing is they could likely improve their ol with the couple imps they've plucked recently but still have the worst ol and be even worse off ratio wise. 

 

36 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

He's a 100k a year back up qb. And yes as many people will point out he is nuttier than an out house rat. 

Between Masoli mbt and streveler who do you take if you need a starting qb? Masoli is the better qb but he's anti clutch. And an anti vax nut bag. I'd still take streveler. I'll bet on heart and a good head on his shoulders every time. 

I actually think Montreal would be a great spot for strevy. Rpo former great qb in khari who has worked well with mobile qbs who are limited passers great run game and wrs. 

Evan's comments make me think of Bullwinkle asking Rocky to watch him pull a rabbit out of his hat and Rocky saying that trick never works. 

When I watched Strev in action in person in 2018 against Ottawa I more then certainly saw a guy who could be a passer and successful in the CFL.  

I think the issue in 2019 is that they kind of pigeon holed him into doing way to many cute plays to play off his running ability.    

 

I don't want any unvaxed players on the team, so it's no to Masoli unless he gets vaxxed.

I don't see MBT as a MOS kind of player.

That leaves Harris or Streveler. Harris is the better passer by far. He cracks under pressure, but our OL should make sure that doesn't happen very often. Harris may not be fully vaxxed and that could take him out of contention. We should be able to get Streveler for a lot less money and we don't need the offense to produce big numbers to win with our defense being as good as it is. It would be fun to see him in Bucks offense to lay the boogeyman PLAP OC argument to rest once and for all.

Streveler may not be as good a passer as Harris, but he is a legit threat that needs to be prepared for week to week. 

Harris sits on the bench doing nothing.

A team (especially this team) could win with an offence designed for Strev's strengths. The Riders win with CF for godsake. 

6 hours ago, Nolby said:

It's no offense but he's the CFL version of Cam Newton. Can run the ball extremely well, run RPO's but when it comes down to strictly throwing Westwood isn't wrong. I'd kill to have him back but McGuire is just fine here.

McGuire has not shown himself to be more than a decent third-down-one-yard-plunge guy. Should not be difficult to find better, and Streveler was.

36 minutes ago, Tracker said:

McGuire has not shown himself to be more than a decent third-down-one-yard-plunge guy. Should not be difficult to find better, and Streveler was.

Truth. 

It is hard to find qbs with projectable arm talent and the mine to execute. I imagine finding all that and a fifo locker room guy isn't easy. 

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

McGuire has not shown himself to be more than a decent third-down-one-yard-plunge guy. Should not be difficult to find better, and Streveler was.

Do we really know that, though?  The only really good look we got was in horrible weather with a weaker roster.  I'm fine with being patient with him if we get Zach back.

7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Not sold on McGuire. I think we can do better.

They couldn't do much worse, his QB rating was 20.3

https://www.cfl.ca/stats/?season=2021

 

MCGUIRE, Sean

WPG

6

13

33

39.4

204

1

4

20.3

12.1

6.2

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

McGuire has not shown himself to be more than a decent third-down-one-yard-plunge guy. Should not be difficult to find better, and Streveler was.

Yes because we can only count the time McGuire played in a terrible rain storm with back ups and have to ignore his pre season time in which he played perfectly fine with back ups in nice weather.      

19 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Yes because we can only count the time McGuire played in a terrible rain storm with back ups and have to ignore his pre season time in which he played perfectly fine with back ups in nice weather.      

If you use a pre-season game as better criteria than a real-game outing, sure.

14 minutes ago, Tracker said:

If you use a pre-season game as better criteria than a real-game outing, sure.

If you consider a game filled with back ups a real-game rather than an end of year "lets see what these guys can do-game", sure.

2 hours ago, blue85gold said:

A team (especially this team) could win with an offence designed for Strev's strengths. The Riders win with CF for godsake. 

They may think they're winning, but in the end they always lose.

4 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

I don't want any unvaxed players on the team, so it's no to Masoli unless he gets vaxxed.

I don't see MBT as a MOS kind of player.

That leaves Harris or Streveler. Harris is the better passer by far. He cracks under pressure, but our OL should make sure that doesn't happen very often. Harris may not be fully vaxxed and that could take him out of contention. We should be able to get Streveler for a lot less money and we don't need the offense to produce big numbers to win with our defense being as good as it is. It would be fun to see him in Bucks offense to lay the boogeyman PLAP OC argument to rest once and for all.

You don't have to worry about Massoli as Zach signed this afternoon.  I doubt if Streveler is coming back. I'd rather we spend the money we'd have to pay him to sign either Kenney Lawler or Rasheed Bailey. 

What a day!!!!! First Biggie. Then Zach. Now Geoff Gray!

 

https://www.bluebombers.com/2022/01/17/im-happy-gray-staying-home/

Edited January 21, 20224 yr by SpeedFlex27

1 hour ago, Fatty Liver said:

They may think they're winning, but in the end they always lose.

Truth is that Edmonton and BC and nearly Calgary teams were train wrecks, so the Riders really backed into the playoffs. 

ICYMI: Shaq Evans said Duke Williams is testing FA. 

53 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

ICYMI: Shaq Evans said Duke Williams is testing FA. 

Chris Jones needs a db.