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55 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

If the Dems are stupid enough to nominate Bernie they’ll get four more years of trump.  

If they're stupid enough not to they will probably lose. People are tired of the same old politicians like Biden. They want someone to shake up the establishment. It's why trump won. You can do the same with Bernie. He's good at engaging people and getting people on his side, and the biggest plus to him is that his no nonsense style is the perfect counterpoint to trump's bullshitting. 

But he's anti establishment democrat and they will likely kill themselves before fully supporting him.

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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

If they're stupid enough not to they will probably lose. People are tired of the same old politicians like Biden. They want someone to shake up the establishment. It's why trump won. You can do the same with Bernie. He's good at engaging people and getting people on his side, and the biggest plus to him is that his no nonsense style is the perfect counterpoint to trump's bullshitting. 

But he's anti establishment democrat and they will likely kill themselves before fully supporting him.

Bernie has no shot.  And he delivers exactly what the gop wants.  The emotional would stop being about trump and all his wrong doings and would be all about socialism. Plus the fact the guy just had a heart attack.  No chance.  
 

Mayor Pete is the ideal outsider choice.   Warren is the ideal choice overall.  

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7 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Trump is a very small petty man.  
 

 

These are the actions of a dictator, toe the line and even lie for your emperor or your done, luckily for these people they get to live. He will not leave the WH willingly if he can't crook another 4 years.

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52 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Bernie has no shot.  And he delivers exactly what the gop wants.  The emotional would stop being about trump and all his wrong doings and would be all about socialism. Plus the fact the guy just had a heart attack.  No chance.  
 

Mayor Pete is the ideal outsider choice.   Warren is the ideal choice overall.  

CIA Pete is not the outsider. After the collapse of Warren and now Biden hes the establishment choice by default now. Will be treated that way by media pending his own collapse.

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40 minutes ago, bustamente said:

These are the actions of a dictator, toe the line and even lie for your emperor or your done, luckily for these people they get to live. He will not leave the WH willingly if he can't crook another 4 years.

Should be court martialled.

Baffling he kept his job for this long. Hes a leaker not a "whistleblower". Circumvented chain of command in the plot to implicate his commander in chief. Like other deep staters they refuse to accept they are not the government, they do not set foreign policy . 

 

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34 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Bernie has no shot.  And he delivers exactly what the gop wants.  The emotional would stop being about trump and all his wrong doings and would be all about socialism. Plus the fact the guy just had a heart attack.  No chance.  
 

Mayor Pete is the ideal outsider choice.   Warren is the ideal choice overall.  

I disagree- I think Bernie stands the best chance against trump. @17to85 nailed- the perfect counter to trumps **** is Bernie's no nonsense style, it's perfect. He will call him a liar to his face- mark it and it will be glorious to see trump sputter and make **** up while trying to process someone standing up to him in that way. 

Bernie's running mate might make or break his run against trump... 

Mayor Pete would get destroyed, trump would eat his lunch... he could never win. 

 

4 minutes ago, Mark F said:

all these insane things trump does are going to cost Americans.

can't fire someone for being somebodies brother.

so the guy will get paid for being wrongfully dismissed.

and on and on.

hard to believe a country could fall so low, so fast.

 

Surprised it took this long in all honesty... they elevated trump to the most powerful position in the world this was bound to happen. 

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Sanders still has to explain to his far left base, never mind the average voter, how open borders immigration driving down wages so his corporate donors have cheap labour makes him different than any of the neo liberal candidates who promise the same thing.

Old enough to remember when marxists said it was all about the proletariat. Time flies..

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9 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Sanders still has to explain to his far left base, never mind the average voter, how open borders immigration driving down wages so his corporate donors have cheap labour makes him different than any of the neo liberal candidates who promise the same thing.

Old enough to remember when marxists said it was all about the proletariat. Time flies..

Bernie is "far left" .....

This is so stupid.

Why do you post here?

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Bernie has no shot.  And he delivers exactly what the gop wants.  The emotional would stop being about trump and all his wrong doings and would be all about socialism. Plus the fact the guy just had a heart attack.  No chance.  
 

Mayor Pete is the ideal outsider choice.   Warren is the ideal choice overall.  

Bernie has the best shot. 

Now my personal favourite is Warren, but she's not going to win because Bernie is doing what she is better. Like I said, he's the perfect counter point to Trump. They can try and make it about socialism, but they'd do that with anyone. What Bernie does is he actually motivates his base to get out and support him. You get someone like Biden for example preaching status quo and working with republicans it will just turn off the progressive base. America needs a change of course to the left and nominating anyone who isn't fully on board with that is just playing into Trumps hands. Why vote for Republican lite? 

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Lots of people get to stay employed and be reassigned after participating in an orchestrated and manufactured plot to indict their boss who is also happens to be the President of the United States. Surprised at this.

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48 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Lots of people get to stay employed and be reassigned after participating in an orchestrated and manufactured plot to indict their boss who is also happens to be the President of the United States. Surprised at this.

So, who was the mastermind behind this plot?

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52 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Lots of people get to stay employed and be reassigned after participating in an orchestrated and manufactured plot to indict their boss who is also happens to be the President of the United States. Surprised at this.

Your mask slips a lot but perhaps never more so than now.  When you love and admire a racist criminal it speaks volumes about you. It’s a mirror.  Sad!

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52 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Lots of people get to stay employed and be reassigned after participating in an orchestrated and manufactured plot to indict their boss who is also happens to be the President of the United States. Surprised at this.

So what exactly did his brother do to get canned apart from being his brother......................oppose the great emperor, heads on a pike

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1 hour ago, Zontar said:

Lots of people get to stay employed and be reassigned after participating in an orchestrated and manufactured plot to indict their boss who is also happens to be the President of the United States. Surprised at this.

Even Republicans admit that what he did was wrong, they just collectively shrugged their shoulders. The only plot is by regressives trying to over throw democracy.

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30 minutes ago, Zontar said:

If history teaches us anything it's sociopath dictators always reassign people to other jobs with a pension when theyre exposed in a plot to remove said dictator. 

If trump didn't want to be impeached he shouldn't have done impeachable things. Guy has a hell of a lot more they could have done it for too. 

So you are of the belief that he is totally exonerated? Nothing bad wrong happened? 

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