Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

Quote

 

Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

recent Texas mall mass murderer:

"A search by Aric Toler of the Netherlands-based investigative journalism group Bellingcat turned up what appears to be Garcia’s social media account on an unmoderated Russian site. In his postings, he wrote: “A lot of the stuff going on in f*cking clown world. You better believe their wouldn’t be we’ll convert your children drag queen story hour loser’s running around loose. No [Jewish-controlled government] communist or liberal fake news media under Hitlers watch”. "

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/may-8-2023-monday

 

the finest people fear communism, liberalism.

 

 

 

Edited May 9, 20232 yr by Mark F

 

3 hours ago, JCon said:

 

Hmmmm....I believe that sort of thinking is almost mandatory in Texas- and probably Albertama

 

A jury has found that Trump sexually abused and defamed E. Jean Carroll, and awarded $5 million in damages. Carroll accused Trump of sexually assaulting her during a chance encounter at a Manhattan department store. He has denied her allegations, calling her a liar. Carroll sued him last year for battery and defamation.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/09/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial-verdict/

Edited May 9, 20232 yr by Wideleft

Trump enablers and supporters don't care if their God sexually abused a women or many women they see it as a badge of honour. This is just the start of his court troubles.

Just now, bustamente said:

Trump enablers and supporters don't care if their God sexually abused a women or many women they see it as a badge of honour. This is just the start of his court troubles.

It's not even the start. He's lost many court cases. The biggest, the best court cases. The judge cried when the verdict was read. 

4 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

 

 

What's that I hear?

Openly known Magats and other Magats hiding behind labels are feeling more emboldened and supportive of this hideous grotesque human being. Predictably he'll respond to this in the same way they will. He emulates exactly who they are as human beings.

Anyone who brushes away what this deeply disturbed man has done to others with a 'yes but what about', 'yes but that person is just as bad', 'yes but I've seen worse', etc is driving us over a cliff.

This is not to be clumped into 'let's all be open minded, let's not be divisive there's many differing and equally valid viewpoints on this issue'.

In our lifetime Trump will go down as one of the worst human beings ever.  

4 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

What's that I hear?

Openly known Magats and other Magats hiding behind labels are feeling more emboldened and supportive of this hideous grotesque human being. Predictably he'll respond to this in the same way they will. He emulates exactly who they are as human beings.

Anyone who brushes away what this deeply disturbed man has done to others with a 'yes but what about', 'yes but that person is just as bad', 'yes but I've seen worse', etc is driving us over a cliff.

This is not to be clumped into 'let's all be open minded, let's not be divisive there's many differing and equally valid viewpoints on this issue'.

In our lifetime Trump will go down as one of the worst human beings ever.  

Both sides are bad, @HardCoreBlue!

Just now, JCon said:

Both sides are bad, @HardCoreBlue!

I've never liked you.

21 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

 

In our lifetime Trump will go down as one of the worst human beings ever.  

I'm not going to go back through this thread, but I do believe I stated this in 2015-2016.  He's already stated that he still doesn't know who she is!

Edited May 9, 20232 yr by Wideleft

Trump is a POS and 75million or so people will vote for him and that unfortunately say more about these Americans and proves that America is a cesspool.

36 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

 

A jury has found that Trump sexually abused and defamed E. Jean Carroll, and awarded $5 million in damages. Carroll accused Trump of sexually assaulting her during a chance encounter at a Manhattan department store. He has denied her allegations, calling her a liar. Carroll sued him last year for battery and defamation.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2023/05/09/e-jean-carroll-trump-trial-verdict/

Why do I have a feeling she won't see a dime of that. Moral victory at least?

11 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump is a POS and 75million or so people will vote for him and that unfortunately say more about these Americans and proves that America is a cesspool.

There is no way around this statement no matter how one pretzels themselves and cries victim in trying to explain away why people support his grotesqueness.   

43 minutes ago, JCon said:

It's not even the start. He's lost many court cases. The biggest, the best court cases. The judge cried when the verdict was read. 

As did the jury, the lawyers for the plaintiff and the whole courtroom.  

42 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

What's that I hear?

Openly known Magats and other Magats hiding behind labels are feeling more emboldened and supportive of this hideous grotesque human being. Predictably he'll respond to this in the same way they will. He emulates exactly who they are as human beings.

Anyone who brushes away what this deeply disturbed man has done to others with a 'yes but what about', 'yes but that person is just as bad', 'yes but I've seen worse', etc is driving us over a cliff.

This is not to be clumped into 'let's all be open minded, let's not be divisive there's many differing and equally valid viewpoints on this issue'.

In our lifetime Trump will go down as one of the worst human beings ever.  

The only reason Trump has not done more damage to America and the world is that he was constrained by law and time. If somehow he managed to establish that he, as president, was above the law, he would have jailed critics, muzzled dissent, completed the militarization of the police, abandoned the international obligations of America and installed himself as a president-for-life dictator. 

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

The only reason Trump has not done more damage to America and the world is that he was constrained by law and time. If somehow he managed to establish that he, as president, was above the law, he would have jailed critics, muzzled dissent, completed the militarization of the police, abandoned the international obligations of America and installed himself as a president-for-life dictator. 

This is not an exaggeration but because some feel that this is an exaggeration we still head toward that cliff.

1 minute ago, HardCoreBlue said:

This is not an exaggeration but because some feel that this is an exaggeration we still head toward that cliff.

Not sure if circumstances will ever again produce such a collection of events, fascists, christo-fascists and malignant personalities in America. But by no means am I prescient.

32 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Not sure if circumstances will ever again produce such a collection of events, fascists, christo-fascists and malignant personalities in America. But by no means am I prescient.

As long as Citizens United is a thing, we're all at risk.

I wonder is CNN will still go thru their town hall with a sexual abuser, apparently they want to give Trump a platform to spew more lies unfettered.

What's the third one going to be? (please tell me Clarence Thomas retires)

 

3 hours ago, bustamente said:

I wonder is CNN will still go thru their town hall with a sexual abuser, apparently they want to give Trump a platform to spew more lies unfettered.

This is about a freak show about eyeballs, not moral positions.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

This is about a freak show about eyeballs, not moral positions.

There are using each other. It’s about generating revenue off a degenerate freak who is grifting his base of lost souls while sanity takes it on the chin once again.

 

10 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

There are using each other. It’s about generating revenue off a degenerate freak who is grifting his base of lost souls while sanity takes it on the chin once again.

 

And it gives Trump a legitimacy that no sexual predator deserves. Beyond that, he is an overt racist and gynophobic fascist.

Rep. George Santos, the freshman Republican congressman whose myriad falsehoods became both a scandal and a national punchline, was charged with a host of financial crimes in court papers unsealed Wednesday.

Santos, 34, surrendered to federal authorities in the morning and is expected to appear in a federal courthouse in Central Islip, on Long Island, later Wednesday.  Officials said he has been charged with fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and false statements. The congressman and his lawyer did not respond to earlier messages seeking comment.

Santos, federal authorities said, lied to his own donors, the House of Representatives, state unemployment officials, and others, resulting in seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of lying to the House of Representatives on financial forms.

Santos has been the subject of multiple investigations. Prosecutors and federal agents have been scrutinizing his campaign finance reports and a host of related questions about his personal income and spending. Of particular interest to authorities is how Santos’s income seemed to fluctuate significantly, as well as a loan he made to his campaign of more than $700,000, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss it.

The congressman also came under fire for allegedly pocketing $3,000 from a GoFundMe page he purportedly set up for a homeless veteran to help pay for surgery for the man’s dying service dog. Meanwhile, the Securities and Exchange Commission has interviewed people about Santos’s role in Harbor City Capital, an investment firm that was forced to shut down in 2021 after the SEC accused it of operating a “classic Ponzi scheme.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/10/george-santos-charges/

9 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Rep. George Santos, the freshman Republican congressman whose myriad falsehoods became both a scandal and a national punchline, was charged with a host of financial crimes in court papers unsealed Wednesday.

Santos, 34, surrendered to federal authorities in the morning and is expected to appear in a federal courthouse in Central Islip, on Long Island, later Wednesday.  Officials said he has been charged with fraud, money laundering, theft of public funds, and false statements. The congressman and his lawyer did not respond to earlier messages seeking comment.

Santos, federal authorities said, lied to his own donors, the House of Representatives, state unemployment officials, and others, resulting in seven counts of wire fraud, three counts of money laundering, one count of theft of public funds, and two counts of lying to the House of Representatives on financial forms.

Santos has been the subject of multiple investigations. Prosecutors and federal agents have been scrutinizing his campaign finance reports and a host of related questions about his personal income and spending. Of particular interest to authorities is how Santos’s income seemed to fluctuate significantly, as well as a loan he made to his campaign of more than $700,000, according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss it.

The congressman also came under fire for allegedly pocketing $3,000 from a GoFundMe page he purportedly set up for a homeless veteran to help pay for surgery for the man’s dying service dog. Meanwhile, the Securities and Exchange Commission has interviewed people about Santos’s role in Harbor City Capital, an investment firm that was forced to shut down in 2021 after the SEC accused it of operating a “classic Ponzi scheme.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/05/10/george-santos-charges/

And as soon as he was arrested, he spontaneously recalled being "inappropriately touched" by a congressman.