Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

As much as Democratic leaders and  half  of Americans hate Trump what they really fear and panic over is Bernie Sanders. When he was making a real push to lead the Democrats big money came in to squash that.And that's on the Democratic Party. They set the stage for Trump. Lifetimes of fear mongering of socialist ideas (that the rest if the world has adopted as standard practice and human decency ) have brainwashed Americans. Alot of it is not accidental.

I completey agree. with all of your post.

and Americans are thoroughly brainwashed.  starts very young, and continues non stop thereafter.

 

Edited September 22, 20214 yr by Mark F

1 hour ago, itchy said:

Watched Fahrenheit  11/9 last night as I felt up to diving into that for some reason. Going in I thought it would be a slam on Trump, but I came away with a much better understanding of the role the Dems played in creating the cesspool.  From the dirty politics behind the scenes, "compromising", screwing Sanders for Clinton, unaccepting of AOC and her like, creating apathy among voters, and being just as betrothed to big $$$, if not more.

Have a listen to Chris Hedges ( or read ) as a suggestion on that subject.

1 hour ago, the watcher said:

Have a listen to Chris Hedges ( or read ) as a suggestion on that subject.

he is bleak. 

here is an interesting article about clintonism, and the damage they still do. about a clinton supported democrat, holding up change.

", It would be one thing if Gottheimer were a rogue, independent political outsider, but he’s a nightmare of the Democratic Party’s own making, a creation of the Clinton White House from his days as a college undergraduate. Gottheimer joined up ahead of the 1996 re-election campaign on the rapid-response team, the same year that Clinton’s signature welfare reform package was signed into law, setting in motion a process that increased poverty, lowered income for single mothers, ballooned the number of people in homeless shelters, and empowered states to eliminate welfare entirely. After Clinton rode that welfare reform, signed just three months before Election Day, into a second term, Gottheimer went to work as the president’s youngest speechwriter, serving in the White House alongside Terry Edmonds and Michael Waldman until Clinton termed out in 2000.

When Gottheimer announced his intention to return to the public sector with a congressional run in 2015, he was promoted and funded by the Clintons personally. He made regular trips to Bill’s hometown of Little Rock, Arkansas, despite running in New Jersey’s Fifth District, more than 1,000 miles away. At one point, Bill and Chelsea Clinton appeared at a Manhattan fundraiser for Gottheimer, which featured Chelsea introducing him as “something of a family member."

https://prospect.org/politics/clintonisms-zombie-josh-gottheimer/

when I see Biden passivity, I think of how clinton twisted arms to get regressive laws through congress. nafta, welfare, the act that

deregulated wall street, the deregulation of media, three strikes law.... all clinton. hes still around.

him and rahm emanuel. also still around.

Edited September 22, 20214 yr by Mark F

Why is America so F'd up, here's one reason

 

Florida Republicans now looking at rescinding measles & mumps vaccine requirements, while continuing to spread disinformation that the Covid vaccine isn't "proven to work" https://floridapolitics.com/archives/458805-diaz-review-vaccine-mandates/

12 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Florida Republicans now looking at rescinding measles & mumps vaccine requirements, while continuing to spread disinformation that the Covid vaccine isn't "proven to work" https://floridapolitics.com/archives/458805-diaz-review-vaccine-mandates/

 

'Murica. 

13 hours ago, bustamente said:

Why is America so F'd up, here's one reason

 

He is one of the most ghoulish politicians on planet earth.

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

He is one of the most ghoulish politicians on planet earth.

..........................and proud of it, self proclaimed Grim Reaper

2 hours ago, JCon said:

 

'Murica. 

Insane.

2 hours ago, JCon said:

 

'Murica. 

Insane.

3 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Florida Republicans now looking at rescinding measles & mumps vaccine requirements, while continuing to spread disinformation that the Covid vaccine isn't "proven to work" https://floridapolitics.com/archives/458805-diaz-review-vaccine-mandates/

Yup going straight from looney directly to batshit crazy. They ought to change their name to "the Lemmings Party".

It will be interesting to see who get served a subpoena as soon as this weekend and who tells the 1/6 committee  to shove it

5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Florida Republicans now looking at rescinding measles & mumps vaccine requirements, while continuing to spread disinformation that the Covid vaccine isn't "proven to work" https://floridapolitics.com/archives/458805-diaz-review-vaccine-mandates/

and this is a big vote getter for them.

should call,us homo stupidens.

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

and this is a big vote getter for them.

should call,us homo stupidens.

That is a sub-species of Homo Habilus. These troglodytes came down out of the trees a few centuries after the rest.

meanwhile, in Arizona:

 

12 hours ago, bustamente said:

It will be interesting to see who get served a subpoena as soon as this weekend and who tells the 1/6 committee  to shove it

I wonder if having a friendly White House and Justice Department could be of help here?  The separation of powers is a pretty big deal so based on my super naive understanding of such things, the executive branch can't help enforce a congressional subpoena, but it would be cool to see Merrick Garland throw Steve Bannon in the pokey.

12 hours ago, Tracker said:

That is a sub-species of Homo Habilus. These troglodytes came down out of the trees a few centuries after the rest.

lol

I graduated with a b.a. in anthropology🤣.   actually, very interesting field.  pun intended.

Edited September 24, 20214 yr by Mark F

2 hours ago, johnzo said:

meanwhile, in Arizona:

 

Texas governor Abbott, in response to Trump's direction, has ordered yet another forensic audit of several counties where the vote went against Trump. The whole point is not to win any of these reviews, but to sow distrust in the electoral system in order to allow the GOP to overturn it when they are ready.

Chaotic Arizona Recount Finds Biden, Uh, Actually Did Beat Trump
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A lengthy, chaotic review of Maricopa County, Arizona’s 2020 vote by an obscure Florida tech company with no elections experience has concluded that President Joe Biden did win, after all. In fact, according to drafts of the final report obtained by The Arizona Republic on Thursday night, Cyber Ninjas’ “audit” found that former President Donald Trump received 45,469 fewer votes than Biden. Maricopa County’s count had Trump losing by 45,109 votes. County Board Chairman Jack Sellers told the Republic the draft report’s conclusions show “the tabulation equipment counted the ballots as they were designed to do, and the results reflect the will of the voters... That should be the end of the story. Everything else is just noise.”

Chaotic Arizona Recount Finds Biden, Uh, Actually Did Beat Trump (thedailybeast.com)

Trump needs to find more lawyers, tying this up in the courts is his only out

 

16 hours ago, johnzo said:

meanwhile, in Arizona:

 

Damn it! They stole the audit too ! 

Bonespurs sold separately.

 

Half scoops really needs to use at least 1 of the 3 brain cells he has left

 

https://news.yahoo.com/kidnapping-assassination-and-a-london-shoot-out-inside-the-ci-as-secret-war-plans-against-wiki-leaks-090057786.html

All those NDA's Trump had everyone in his WH inner circle sign aren't worth the paper they are written on

On 2021-09-26 at 9:28 PM, bustamente said:

Half scoops really needs to use at least 1 of the 3 brain cells he has left

 

The unfortunate part is all Don Jr is thinking is look I triggered another libtard this should help me grift more money.

Exhausting, maddening.