Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

But hey he didn't start any wars.

Not in foreign countries, but is working hard to start another civil war on American soil.

12 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

But hey he didn't start any wars.

Love that argument. The guy who destabilized many countries and regions, who has put so many weapons in authoritarian hands but is somehow NOT a warmonger. Disgusting. 

Comes with a whole set of crayons...

 

wasn't sure where this should be but good riddance either way

https://variety.com/2020/digital/news/fcc-ajit-pai-leave-january-2021-biden-president-1234842166/?fbclid=IwAR2PtoC7jbMLX7fv7QNpRYUXlTW99iGrgAgDc6WCbBPUYEUG1MuWiAlGIxU

 

 

Flynn might not be in the clear yet and this might be an indication for Trump trying to get pre-emptive pardon for his kids and cronies.

 

10 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Flynn might not be in the clear yet and this might be an indication for Trump trying to get pre-emptive pardon for his kids and cronies.

 

 

 

Biden's approach seems to be we need to restore unity, grace, kindness etc with a cost of not keeping certain people accountable for their criminal and or immoral actions. I know he ran on the platform of Unity but it certainly is hard to stomach that certain people may be let off the hook for the greater good. Can't we do both, hold certain people accountable for their behaviours that have ran roughshod over America the last four years AND invest forward on mending fences and bringing people together? I understand the logic of having to look forward and not investing any energy in looking behind but c'mon man (said while breathing in and out of a paper bag).  

If Biden let's these crooks off the hook all that will happen is Republicans will sweep the midterms and next presidential election. 

9 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Can't we do both, hold certain people accountable for their behaviours that have ran roughshod over America the last four years AND invest forward on mending fences and bringing people together?

This will be done.

In an America that the Trump administration left behind, the new administration has a lot of work to do. A lot. 
There is so much to fix, and it will take time. He’s going to need co-operation from a lot of people and repairs are already being undertaken.

Can it be done Biden’s way?

Yes.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

If Biden let's these crooks off the hook all that will happen is Republicans will sweep the midterms and next presidential election. 

Silence is complicity and silence from the incoming Biden administration would signal that the GOP can do whatever they want with impunity. It would also mean that they see whatever Trump and his sycomphants did as licit, and open the floodgates all manner of election tampering and corruption. Precedent is very important in law.

    Trump Pentagon Pick Suggested President Should Declare Martial Law Over Election ‘Coup’: ‘NOT A BAD IDEA’

 

Reuters
President Trump’s nominee for a senior post at the Pentagon has repeatedly spread false conspiracies about the 2020 election, reposting tweets that it was stolen from Trump as part of an attempted “coup” and that Trump should declare martial law, CNN reports. Texan Scott O’Grady, an ex-fighter pilot who’s been nominated for assistant secretary of defense for international security affairs, retweeted a post on Nov. 25 that falsely declared, “Trump won & Biden & his Comrades will now attempt a coup.” The tweet featured a doctored photo of Biden with Chinese President Xi Jinping. Several days later, he reposted a tweet suggesting it was time for Trump to invoke martial law. “I don’t know who needs to hear this,” the post read, “But calling for martial law is not a bad idea when there is an attempted coup against the president and this country happening right now.” That same account also posted an article about former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn calling for martial law in a petition, which O’Grady shared as well.

The country stands to gain by defeating her in the run-off election

 

Unless Dems win both run-off seats and gain control of the Senate, we will not see Trump prosecuted. Even if they do, he will have his hands full with many things and may not want to distract Congress with a political pissing match. If the Dems want to enact true change and bring a scorched earth policy to crush all the Republican corruption and enabling, they first need the clear majority mandate not to lose power in 2 years. So gain the Senate first, then open up voting laws to ensure a maximum participation of voters and elimination of gerrymandering and the electoral college. Then they will have a solid long term base of the majority of voters and can make change without much fear of reprisal. Only then can they safely engage in Trump payback, which would be more for show than actual punishment anyway. They may be content to let NY state take a run at the Donald, and let Rudy and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon slink back under hero respective rocks of irrelevance once they have no true influential power. 

A normal interview? Who can remember those?

 

25 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Unless Dems win both run-off seats and gain control of the Senate, we will not see Trump prosecuted. Even if they do, he will have his hands full with many things and may not want to distract Congress with a political pissing match. If the Dems want to enact true change and bring a scorched earth policy to crush all the Republican corruption and enabling, they first need the clear majority mandate not to lose power in 2 years. So gain the Senate first, then open up voting laws to ensure a maximum participation of voters and elimination of gerrymandering and the electoral college. Then they will have a solid long term base of the majority of voters and can make change without much fear of reprisal. Only then can they safely engage in Trump payback, which would be more for show than actual punishment anyway. They may be content to let NY state take a run at the Donald, and let Rudy and Roger Stone and Steve Bannon slink back under hero respective rocks of irrelevance once they have no true influential power. 

The DOJ and the individual states can go after Trump. They don't need the Senate for that. 

The problem you're going to have is that you need legislation that will stand up the the Supreme Court. Right now, nothing the Dems put forward for electoral reform will not pass the alt-right court. 

The electoral college is going to be near impossible to remove without bilateral support and there is no way you're going to get smaller state senators of either party to support it. 

 

 

 

18 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

A normal interview? Who can remember those?

 

Apparently McConnell has decided to make things as difficult as possible for Biden, so reaching out to the GOP will be futile, and a sign to the GOP that Biden is weak. Prosecuting Trump and his followers to the full extent of the law ought to give them some pause. 

Edited December 4, 20205 yr by Tracker

I think Rev. Warnock will beat Loeffler no problem, Osoff has a good chance against Perdue, only then can Biden have any effect but being 50/50 with the VP on the Dems side Biden will have to be careful with his side.

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Apparently McConnell has decided to make things as difficult as possible for Biden, so reaching out to the GOP will be futile, and a sign to the GOP that Biden is weak. Prosecuting Trump and his followers to the full extent of the law ought to give them some pause. 

Biden is being diplomatic in terms of McConnell he knows his Presidency goes nowhere with him as majority leader, play the game and let the House committee's go after Trump and his cronies and show the American public and yes even his followers what a failed and crooked administration they liked and how it affected them  

Yeah, he’s so stagnant now..

 

3 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Yeah, he’s so stagnant now..

 

Many of them are probably foreign influencing twitter bots that have been purged and not replaced.... because really- who backs a loser?

Is Rudy getting ready to pack it in, sound like Rudy is exhausted of making a fool of himself

 

Most would be bots and many are going to Parler. 

Was it worth it little fly?

2 hours ago, Tracker said:

Silence is complicity and silence from the incoming Biden administration would signal that the GOP can do whatever they want with impunity. It would also mean that they see whatever Trump and his sycomphants did as licit, and open the floodgates all manner of election tampering and corruption. Precedent is very important in law.

People didn't turn out en masse to support Biden, they did it to oust the mob boss in the big chair. They don't do something to make sure Republicans know this is unacceptable and voters will just stay home going forward because nothing matters.

WELL, THAT BACKFIRED: Judges to Boycott South Dakota Courthouse That Will Allow Guns Inside

Custer County
A South Dakota county commission that voted to let people bring guns into the courthouse may have shot itself in the foot: The judges plan to boycott the facility. The Rapid City Journal reports that the presiding judge of the 7th Judicial Circuit has drafted an order that says the Custer County courthouse “is currently unsuitable and insufficient due to safety concerns.” Under the order, which has to be approved by a higher court, trials would take place in a different courthouse where guns are prohibited and judges may preside remotely. The commissioner who introduced the pro-gun rule refused to discuss it with the newspaper but has claimed the courthouse would be a target unless civilians could be armed.

Judges to Boycott South Dakota Courthouse That Will Allow Guns Inside (thedailybeast.com)