Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

This goes here? 

 

Wow!

 

Not surprised. At. All.

 

 

11 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

This goes here? 

 

Wow!

 

Not surprised. At. All.

 

 

 

This going to cost whoever runs that prison a lot of money.

Edited October 30, 20196 yr by Mark F

Trump uploads photochop on Twitter and Twitter responds well as you might think.

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 20196 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

5 hours ago, Mark F said:

This going to cost whoever runs that prison a lot of money.

Yeah, I don't normally like to think in terms of conspiracies but holy hell does the Epstein situation stink.  Two guards fell asleep -and- the camera failed -and- Epstein was taken off suicide watch prior to his death?  That's a lot of coincidental failures.  On the other hand, a jailhouse assassination seems like a manageable scope and objective for a conspiracy. 

(unlike the harvesting of millions of votes from illegal immigrants, or the alt-physics that make steel beams immune to jet fuel fires)

Just need the cooperation of a few people in the right places to pull it off.  It definitely wouldn't be the first weird jailhouse assassination in NYC history.

Edited October 31, 20196 yr by johnzo

1 hour ago, johnzo said:

 

Just need the cooperation of a few people in the right places to pull it off.

Assassination of enemies is commonplace throughout the world, we are supposedly better than that, but we are not.

If you have enough money and power, it's fine. See..... Kashoggi embassy murder.
 

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the Saudis are back in good international standing, and it didn’t even take that long. At last year’s Future Investment Initiative conference (informally dubbed “Davos in the Desert”, much to the World Economic Forum’s chagrin) that took place less than a month after the killing, many international CEOs opted not to show up out of PR concerns but still sent their number 2’s, and business has continued as usual. While there were some awkward moments at the first G20 summit in Buenos Aires following the murder, by the time of this year’s G20 in Osaka, MbS had been welcomed back into the fold. For supporters of press freedom and human rights, that’s equal parts disturbing and disheartening. For most, it’s the world we live in.

 

 

Edited October 31, 20196 yr by Mark F

One day this will be the way Trump is remembered

On 2019-10-29 at 1:07 PM, Mark F said:

So much for abadoning ship

House had impeachment inquiry vote today. 100% GOP voted against. Two Dems actually defected to No side.

Pelosi insists impeachment is not a partisan stunt and will be  end up being bipartisan because it's genuine.

Your move, Nancy.

 

1 hour ago, Zontar said:

So much for abadoning ship

House had impeachment inquiry vote today. 100% GOP voted against. Two Dems actually defected to No side.

Pelosi insists impeachment is not a partisan stunt and will be  end up being bipartisan because it's genuine.

Your move, Nancy.

 

So... you're saying that the Republicans are making this a partisan thing- because they all voted lock step against the dems and the Dems voted how ever they wanted?

 

Edited October 31, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy

8 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So... you;re saying that the Republicans are making this a partisan thing- because they all voted lock step against the dems and the Dems voted how ever they wanted?

 

haha yes!  

 

8 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

So... you're saying that the Republicans are making this a partisan thing- because they all voted lock step against the dems and the Dems voted how ever they wanted?

 

Which is precisely the point . Todays vote was completely at odds with two major Dem/Media narratives.

1. Pelosi and media insist impeachmention isn't a partisan farce because at it's heart its really bipartisan and that's why Dems are going forward with it. " We have no other choice" . Eyeroll

2. There's large numbers of Republicans just waiting to show their opposition to Trump and believe in impeachment too. "Cracks" I believe was the trendy word.

In other words just more progressive wish fulfilment and projection dressed up as facts.

Edited November 1, 20196 yr by Zontar

so you think there's nothing impeachable that's been done by this president?

9 hours ago, 17to85 said:

so you think there's nothing impeachable that's been done by this president?

Secret testimonies, "whistle blowers " that more resemble operatives, rules mysteriously changed, rules set as they go along...

Shouldn't everyone at the very least be skeptical? 

On 2019-10-30 at 10:25 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Disgusting.  She’s a victim here.  Period.   The Dems should be tougher on these things.  

Yep, Metoo Congress Act enforced for the first time and it's a bi sexual Democrat woman. No wonder progressives are mad.

25 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Secret testimonies, "whistle blowers " that more resemble operatives, rules mysteriously changed, rules set as they go along...

Shouldn't everyone at the very least be skeptical? 

What secret testimonies? CLose door sessions? which are standard for these proceedings (see: gowdy and Benghazi)? Protocol established by republicans during the last impeachment? Career public servants = operatives? WHat rules were "mysteriously changed"?

I am curious of where you are getting your information, they seem to leave out a lot of important stuff.

 

 

22 minutes ago, Zontar said:

Yep, Metoo Congress Act enforced for the first time and it's a bi sexual Democrat woman. No wonder progressives are mad.

its not like that staffer came forward and accused Hill of inappropriate sexual conduct... it was a political operative using revenge porn offered up by a jilted abusive ex-husband. There is a huge difference here. The relationship was inappropriate due to the whole power structure of their professional lives- but it was a consensual relationship. 

Edited November 1, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy
to sound less bitchy

9 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

What secret testimonies? CLose door sessions? which are standard for these proceedings (see: gowdy and Benghazi)? Protocol established by republicans during the last impeachment? Career public servants = operatives? WHat rules were "mysteriously changed"?

I am skeptical- of where you are getting your information...

 

 

Oh yeah, I remember that staffer coming forward and accusing Hill of inappropr... Oh wait- that was a political operative using revenge porn by a jilted abusive ex-husband- my bad, please continue. 

Just another troll. Always has been.

Just now, JCon said:

Just another troll. Always has been.

Nah, I don't think @Zontar is a troll- he has strong beliefs, steps up to share them and questions things that he feels need to be questioned. It's a good thing. 

23 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Nah, I don't think @Zontar is a troll- he has strong beliefs, steps up to share them and questions things that he feels need to be questioned. It's a good thing. 

nope. just a bigot.

 

one right wing company owns most of the media,  (another of Bill Clinton's many achievements) you get this:

 

59 minutes ago, JCon said:

Just another troll. Always has been.

She had to resign by the new ethics regulations. As if you need written rules to tell you having sex with subordinates is wrong but ...

If Pelosi thought there was a political win or a boost to feminist base here for Hill not to resign no way Pelosi would have accepted her resignation. Pelosi had no choice, rules set out in the Metoo thing.

1 minute ago, Zontar said:

She had to resign by the new ethics regulations. As if you need written rules to tell you having sex with subordinates is wrong but ...

If Pelosi thought there was a political win or a boost to feminist base here for Hill not to resign no way Pelosi would have accepted her resignation. Pelosi had no choice, rules set out in the Metoo thing.

I don't think you have a good understanding of the #Metoo movement...

1 minute ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

I don't think you have a good understanding of the #Metoo movement...

From what I gather the sexual /power dynamic of a superior over a subordinate in the workplace is a big part of it no matter if it was consensual. Pretty much sounds like this case

36 minutes ago, Mark F said:

one right wing company owns most of the media,  (another of Bill Clinton's many achievements) you get this:

 

OMG- it is insidious what this group is doing, I first heard of this on LWTWJO

 

Take the time to watch- very funny, very informative.

Edited November 1, 20196 yr by wanna-b-fanboy