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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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3 minutes ago, johnzo said:

What happens to soldiers who boo or otherwise disrespect the Commander-in-Chief?

Actually thats a good point.  The Major told me she had finally had enough and tweeted out about something Trump related.  She didn't get in trouble but she said they are not to do that.  

16 minutes ago, johnzo said:

What happens to soldiers who boo or otherwise disrespect the Commander-in-Chief?

Disciplined on some level I should think.

Trump already planting the seed that the '20 election will be rigged, yeah this election is going to be a tire fire 

11 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Trump already planting the seed that the '20 election will be rigged, yeah this election is going to be a tire fire 

If he’s losing it’s rigged. If he “somehow” wins then it was the fairest election in the history of time & space. 

"Collusion-Truthers will latch onto anything to prolong the fairy tale . They're too emotionally invested to give up. It's like a doomsday cult"

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Talk about denial. Hahahahahaha

5 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Talk about denial. Hahahahahaha

You'd think after three years of corporate, partisan media leaking unnamed, un corroborated allegations shown later to be lies people would be at least a little more skeptical this time around.

  Collusion is their white whale.

2 hours ago, Zontar said:

You'd think after three years of corporate, partisan media leaking unnamed, un corroborated allegations shown later to be lies people would be at least a little more skeptical this time around.

  Collusion is their white whale.

This has to be a parody account.  

3 hours ago, Zontar said:

You'd think after three years of corporate, partisan media leaking unnamed, un corroborated allegations shown later to be lies people would be at least a little more skeptical this time around.

  Collusion is their white whale.

You'd think that after firing the FBI director, the FBI Deputy Director, attempting to fire the Special Prosecutor and the Attorney General (who wouldn't recuse himself) and installing an acting AG (bypassing Senate confirmation) who was on record suggesting the investigation be de-funded and then installing an AG who believes presidents have king-like powers, people would recognize that Trump will do whatever he can to hide all of his and his family's misdeeds.

Not to mention published and documented examples of conspiracy and attempted conspiracy.....

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html

https://www.denverpost.com/2019/01/08/manafort-polling-data-russia/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-adviser-roger-stone-admits-contact-with-guccifer-2-0-during-campaign/

 

Timely reminder: Trump appointed as IRS commissioner a tax attorney who wrote an opinion piece arguing that Trump should not release his returnshttps://t.co/hPeIpBMjyb

— Ilya Marritz (@ilyamarritz) April 4, 2019

 

3 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Timely reminder: Trump appointed as IRS commissioner a tax attorney who wrote an opinion piece arguing that Trump should not release his returnshttps://t.co/hPeIpBMjyb

— Ilya Marritz (@ilyamarritz) April 4, 2019

 

Trump is the swamp and his people feed off the sludge. 

4 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Timely reminder: Trump appointed as IRS commissioner a tax attorney who wrote an opinion piece arguing that Trump should not release his returnshttps://t.co/hPeIpBMjyb

— Ilya Marritz (@ilyamarritz) April 4, 2019

 

It would be funny if it werent so tragic.

15 hours ago, Zontar said:

"Collusion-Truthers will latch onto anything to prolong the fairy tale . They're too emotionally invested to give up. It's like a doomsday cult"

So you're all too willing to accept the conclusion from the Trump-appointed AG, but will deny anything coming straight from the Mueller team, the very people who conducted the investigation.

We just want some transparency about the situation, even if none of it leads to criminal charges against Trump himself. You're blind if you can't see that the Republicans are hiding something. If the report wasn't damning in any way, it would have been released by now.

There is a simple way to solve all this: release the report to the public and let them decide. You'd think that anyone who was exonerated would have no problems with the people seeing it... unless the AG was lying to protect a Republican president... not like the guy has a history of partisan protection.... on no wait, he does. He let everyone off in the Iran contra deal to prevent people from digging to find out how deep the rot went in the Republican party. 

 

The more things change the more they stay the same.

3 hours ago, AtlanticRiderFan said:

So you're all too willing to accept the conclusion from the Trump-appointed AG, but will deny anything coming straight from the Mueller team, the very people who conducted the investigation.

We just want some transparency about the situation, even if none of it leads to criminal charges against Trump himself. You're blind if you can't see that the Republicans are hiding something. If the report wasn't damning in any way, it would have been released by now.

Mueller,  the man #Resistance pinned their hopes on and defended when he was criticized for taking so long and expanding investigation beyond collusion said there was no collusion. 

So why, all,of a sudden,  aren't THEY accepting his conclusion ? 

Can't have it both ways.

All for transperancy.

Let's find out how and why phoney Fusion GPS intelligence from a spy in the employ of a Russian oligarchy got so much credence. How were warrants and wiretaps obtained on such tainted and bogus evidence. Why and how the recommended criminal charges on the destroyed  Clinton emails were ignored at the same time.

Partisan, corrupt, incompetent officials leaking stories to a compliant media eager to advance the narrative but not to scruntize .

You want transperancy?  Then let's find out EVERYTHING .

Just now, Zontar said:

Mueller,  the man #Resistance pinned their hopes on and defended when he was criticized for taking so long and expanding investigation beyond collusion said there was no collusion. 

So why, all,of a sudden,  aren't THEY accepting his conclusion ? 

Can't have it both ways.

All for transperancy.

Let's find out how and why phoney Fusion GPS intelligence from a spy in the employ of a Russian oligarchy got so much credence. How were warrants and wiretaps obtained on such tainted and bogus evidence. Why and how the recommended criminal charges on the destroyed  Clinton emails were ignored at the same time.

Partisan, corrupt, incompetent officials leaking stories to a compliant media eager to advance the narrative but not to scruntize .

You want transperancy?  Then let's find out EVERYTHING .

Stop making **** up.  Its troll level nonsense.

Or link us to the Mueller report you read.  

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Stop making **** up.  Its troll level nonsense.

Or link us to the Mueller report you read.  

Mueller finished the investigation . Its over. There was no collusion and no forthcoming charges on same.

#RESISTANCE banked everything on this and lost and now they're clinging to a a new narrative to keep their fantasy alive.

Just now, Zontar said:

Mueller finished the investigation . Its over. There was no collusion and no forthcoming charges on same.

#RESISTANCE banked everything on this and lost and now they're clinging to a a new narrative to keep their fantasy alive.

You're flat out lying.  What is it about a racist, moronic, cheating pig that you love so much?

A true conservative would be disgusted at Trump.  Racist white nationalists...not so much. 

5 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

You're flat out lying.  What is it about a racist, moronic, cheating pig that you love so much?

A true conservative would be disgusted at Trump.  Racist white nationalists...not so much. 

No Colluison. That narrative is lost. #Resistance is going to gin up a new one anynday now. So why not wait for that instead of desperate ad hominem attacks ?

Just now, Zontar said:

No Colluison. That narrative is lost. #Resistance is going to gin up a new one anynday now. So why not wait for that instead of desperate ad hominem attacks ?

You come in here and you lie.  Thats trolling and baiting behavior.  Its not a difference of opinion (though I do disagree with your love of a racist, criminal President).  If you really believed you had a point, you wouldnt have to lie.

1 minute ago, The Unknown Poster said:

You come in here and you lie.  Thats trolling and baiting behavior.  Its not a difference of opinion (though I do disagree with your love of a racist, criminal President).  If you really believed you had a point, you wouldnt have to lie.

Any Trump collusion story you post can be be matched story for story that can refute it or at the very least provide healthy skepticism. 

Because you don't like it or accept it doesn't make it a lie. If you want credibility or persuade people this is a poor way to go about it.

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