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Brian Hall when he covered the Eskimo games did the exact same thing. He`d be spouting off on commericals during the play. Growing up in Wpg I took what Knuckles did for granted - almost always setting the plays pre snap, who`s in motion, who`s covering who. Back in the day home games weren`t televised and that`s the only recourse we had to listen. But my all time fav Brian Hall call was Milt Stegall`s miracle catch. Hallsy was going on about the Eskimo player of the game, Tony Roma`s ribs, etc. Then out of the blue he says `He`s got it, Stegall, he`s got the ball and is running to endzone and he`s going to score, where`s the flag Morley (color man), there`s gotta be a flag somewhere..............`. I hope Knuckles lasts as long as Vin Scully.

Well I know a few want me out of here because I `jumped ship`so to speak lol. But except for a few I still and will come here as there`s lots of good info here with a a lot of knowledgeable and humble posters

Not sure what you mean about that '4 quarter' stretch. And I've seen Willy with his helmet on on the sidelines all the time. In Edmonton he never had it off. Not sure what you are talking about there either unless you think he was moments away from filling in for Nichols here in Edmonton. But that's what a true 'starter' does. Everyone has bad games and bad stretches. You think John Elway was lights out the whole game in that classic AFC Final against the Browns? There was a reason why he had to make 'the drive' at the end of the game to win it. I haven't seen Willy do that - at least not since his first year in Wpg. He's been getting progressively worse the longer he's been there. This year Willy has nice numbers but about 70% of them have come after the game was well out of reach. If you look at Willy's last start prior to the switch to Nichols (against Calgary) the Wpg D and special teams were keeping the bombers so the Calgary defense stayed tough and Willy couldn't do anything. I was actually hoping Willy was going to do well. He seems like a good kid. But right now it doesn't look like he's cut out to be a starter. IMO - the dumbest thing the bombers ever did was sign him and immediately proclaim him as their starter. The Eskimos signed Reilly to give competition to Nichols (and vice versa) when they traded Ray. They did not want to annoit either as 'the' starter and Nichols was looking like he was going to win the job (though the media had given it to Reilly prior to camp opening) but he blew his knee in the home preseason game and the rest is/was history. The bombers should never have tied their wagon to guy with what - four starts (did he even have that much)? Things might of even turned out different (in a good way) for Willy if he was forced to compete. The good news is he is now. He's no longer the #1 guy in Wpg that's pretty obvious. The bad news - no CFL team can afford a 400k a year backup QB. For this year he may stay on but he'll be released at season's end if things remain the same (Nichols stays healthy and stays as a starter). Willy's only hope is if Nichols either gets hurt or becomes extremely innaffective (Willy like) and Willy steps in and plays like he did in his first three games as the bomber starter. I still think he ends up in Montreal.

Wow wbbfan - really? On the verge of being pulled. Tell you what I saw - I saw Nichols throw an INT - I saw Toronto march it down then I saw the Wpg Defense (which I chose in fantasy football this week ) intercept him. Then I saw Nichols smartly march the ball downfield to get a field goal. After than, after every Argo turnover - I saw Nichols march it in the end zone. I've also seen this story before, with the bomber d getting turnovers, and I saw Drew Willy do absolutely NOTHING with the ball except a two and out (if you were lucky) or turn it right back over to them. Even though he has been hurt a lot, when healthy, Willy has been given every opportunity to prove himself. More than enough. He has been given enough to hang himself with about 5 times already, and he unfortunately he has. Nichols being pulled - LMAO - WBBFAN - only way Nichols is going to be pulled from a game is if he carried out on a stretcher. It's not even a discussion, he's the Bomber #1 QB now. And it gets better I'm afraid (for all Willy fans) as next up after a bye is Montreal - bombers most likely win that game (would have won the home opener if Nichols started) then it's very conceivable the bombers sweep the mess that is the Sk Roughriders. The question I have is will Willy even be on the team? If I were O'Shea, and if for whatever reason Nichols has to be 'pulled' from the game - I'm putting Davis in. No way no how I'm paying 400 grand to a 'backup' and at that salary Willy is untradeable. You can't give him away at that salary. He will be released if things stay the same. Willy is a terrible starting QB - he's a backup at best and should be paid as one. If he has any decency, he'll re-sign in Wpg at a backup rate - if not - he'll move on to the east (maybe Toronto or Montreal). I can't see him back in Sk either - Jones would have no interest in him.

Really?

Only thing I'd be cautious of - but first great game by Nichols and the Bombers - loved Nichols little jest to the Esks' bench after his TD throw in the second half - but Edmonton got beat up good on Saturday, had two days of practice, and their best cover guy is playing on one leg (Watkins). I want to see how the bombers perform over the next few weeks but I'm in Nichols' corner. He had a lot of bad luck when he was here in Edmonton, and this is his last good shot IMO to be a starter in the CFL and I hope he take full advantage of it. Now about that Eskimo Defense ......

Says you? Who's trolling who ISo? Go ahead - check my posts quote all you want - who's trolling who. Just put me on ignore - please?

Where's the fun in that iso? Last I checked, I live in a free country and can do whatever I want to do unless I'm breaking the law. No laws being broke here. Besides, I thought I was on your 'ignore' list. Promises Promises - trust me won't hurt my feelings one iota

Great post there OBF - you got me by quite a few years I was about the same age though - I was 9 years old and followed the bombers religiously until, well, I guess it was in October of last year - can't remember the specific game but I finally had enough. So for me, its' 42 years. We got quite the different reaction regarding our decisions. Even the mods are jumping all over me here. Never seen anything like it. But, TBH - I'm sick and tired of saying nothing but negative things on here about the team. For the most part, that's all they've been giving me options for save that 5 -1 start when I was over the moon for both Willy and O'Shea. You'd think I'd have known better. So I'll be at the game tonight, and for the first time ever here, I won't be trying to 'defend' the bombers. Though if they play great and win - it sure will put a smile on my face

That would be my guess, and if the bombers are 1 - 7 going into the bye - it's buh bye O'Shea and Willy may well be released right along with him.

Lots of good stuff here. I liked the comment about Nichols being his last shot. That's true - he wants to be a #1 - probably why he re-signed in Wpg. Don't forget, when the Esks first signed Reilly, he wasn't signed as the #1 - they signed him to battle Nichols for the #1 job. Esks didn't want to 'hand' anything to Nichols, they wanted him to 'earn' it (there's a novel concept). Unfortunately, Nichols had his knee blown up in the home preseason game (which he had started and looked very good though again only pre-season) and Reilly got the job defacto and the rest, as they say, is history. Nichols is motivated and should do well here tomorrow night. I'm really looking forward to the game and hoping for a good one. I really don't want to see a blowout. Assuming Nichols does well though - it's not Thursday's game that will define it IMO. It will be the next few games. If Nichols maintains a high level of play and moves the ball consistently, then I think Willy will be released (as mentioned earlier he is untradeable - his contract is far too big just like Glenn's was). They'd have to release him before Labour Day I believe though - otherwise they're on the hook for the whole thing so you may as well hang on to him at that point.

You guys weren't the only one - I too thought I was dead wrong on Willy after that start. Guess now the Bombers will see what Nichols has evolved into. AS an FYI - Esks have the worst defense in the CFL - only 'bright spot' was their game in Winnipeg. Esks have 5 sacks total this year, three against Wpg. Esks only gave up 16 points against Wpg. Ottawa scored 45 points (and won), Sask scored 36 (and lost), and we all saw what Hamilton did. It would be a new low for Wpg to come in here, on a weeks rest, and not score 30 points against this team. I thought maybe the Esks defense was putting it back together but in retrospect Drew Willy has no business running any kind of offense in this or any other league. 36 games (or is it 37 now) without scoring 30 points in a scoring league. It really doesn't get any worse, it just doesn't, 'cept for Thursday if they lay another egg.

It tells me most of you should do what I did to keep your sanity lol. That's quite the stat I never thought of - but it answers a lot of questions right there. But I wonder when LaPo takes over for MOS if that stat will still count or not?

Isn't Trestman the OC in Baltimore? Unless something changed that I'm not aware of.

Good point Do - Bomber receivers have not been making plays at all for their QB's. I don't think the bombers even have a legit downfield threat - so that's will help the porous Esk Defence big time, just like it did when they played in Wpg. Good call on Nichols though - he'll be fired up which is why I mentioned it in the chat. I know you think it's a 'trap' game tracker but IMO it's the exact opposite. Willy does not inspire the offense whatsoever, and as soon as he faces any kind of adversity in a game, he folds like a cheap tent. But the real issue on Thursday will be the bomber secondary. They'd be shredded if they were healthy - three guys out (if that's the case - including Randle) spells 500 yards passing for Reilly

An ambulance came to cart him away - yeah it was pretty ugly. Hate to see that. On a side note - the halftime show featuring Flo Rida was great - all went downhill from there. Sad part boys - the only time the Eskie defense has looked good this year is - yep, you guessed it, in Winnipeg. They struggled against SK, were awful against Ottawa but this second half tonight - was disgusting. What am I getting at - NO EXCUSE for O'Shea and the bomber. Reilly got the **** kicked out of him tonight. He's beat up real good. The defense is what they are - they have holes all over the place. They now have a mandatory two day break, which means they can't practice until Tuesday with the game here on Thursday. Bombers have a full week. If LaPO, Willy (or whomever starts), and O'Shea can't take advantage of this - or worse, if the Bombers get blown up (like their want to do here) then I don't know what to say. O'Shea can't possibly keep his job. I'm not talking a loss here, I'm talking a blowout. A close game loss O'Shea can survive, a beatdown? Not likely. Good luck guys - Edmonton looks ripe for the picking - hopefully enough of injured bombers (especially the secondary) can come back in this one.

No what's sad is you guys don't have a team to cheer for. I really hope the Bombers turn it around - sooner or later I'm sure they will and when they do maybe you guys can rub it in my face (I won't go anywhere and I'd never change my ID - I may change my avi though lol) - wouldn't bother me in the least!

BOmbers never do well here, in fact saving a couple of games that I can count on one hand since '98, the bombers always get blown out here. Right now this team has zero confidence, zero resolve, zero fight. MOS will be paid until the end of the year, fired or not. My prediction - Banjo bowl. If after the banjo bowl the bombers only have two wins (and the banjo bowl is not the 2nd win) and they lose the banjo bowl, the season will officially be a write off and the bombers will fire O'Shea. I wonder though if the Bombers will do better - they seem to be too uptight in Wpg. The players are definitely uncomfortable with being booed, especially Willy. Regardless of what he says, Willy is really bothered by it.

Nah, neither - you're the one with the problem not me

Oh don't worry I'm more than over myself 17 - too bad you guys aren't. There's other fans of other teams who post on here and no one says 'boo' to them. But me - oh my - i"m so Evil. Yet most people here spit more vile on the bombers than I ever have. Well, I feel sorry for you now quite frankly, and every other 'bomber' fan on here and elsewhere, just like the esk fans started feeling sorry for me. I can't even hate on you guys. You are already in a world of **** (as far as being a bomber fan anyway - as nothing I say could make it worse anyway.

I'll be there with my Eskie Jersey on cheering the Eskimos for another (I got a lot) $100 Kal tire coupon (we get them when the Eskies score 35 points or more in a home game). Since I seem to be the fav 'whipping boy' around here that people like to pin their anger on - come kill me. Lots of witnesses though - so hope you don't mind spending 25 years in prison for the offense lol.

Oh really? Well you just did the same thing didn't you? Pot calling kettle - Pot calling Kettle - helloooooooo Kettle edit - and just to add Mike - I've said, and never made any bones about it, and never have, that I'm a C - F - L fan first. I support the CFL no matter where I am. If I were to move to Vancouver tomorrow, I'd be a Lions season ticket holder. If I moved back to Wpg - Yep I'd buy Bomber Season Tickets. So don't you dare get all 'high and mighty' with me. You pretty much just said what I said last year - only it took you a bit longer to reach your breaking point. Know what finally turned me? Eskimo fans, they used to jab me and mock me when I was wearing my blue and gold while at Eskimo games (Bombers playing or not). I loved it, I gave it right back. Last year, they were genuinely 'feeling sorry' for me. Feeling sorry? Really? When the Esks pounded on them here at Commonwealth, I didn't even have the dignity of being razzed (It's all part of the fun IMO). Now that is embarrassing, the ultimate insult. This doesn't mean I wish the bombers any ill will at all. In fact I still cheer for them (so what - I can do whatever I want) 'cept when they play the Eskimos' And as an FYI - I'm really enjoying the season so far this year - though not the bombers side of it but at least I have one team that is doing something - makes the CFL fun. So sue me.

Careful now - I did that and they want me off these boards now. Try living in a city that has a real football team and a real QB - and going to their games for 13 years - I should be given a medal for as long as supported the bombers - not vilified.

Darvin Adams exemplified that big time. It's what I've been saying. WATCH the other teams, I watch the Eskimo's all the time. Anyone here think Reilly is perfect? Not even close. He usually just throws the ball to an 'area' when he goes deep, it's his 'receivers' that make a play on it. You all saw Bowman do it last week. Not to mention his 8 yard route when he needed 10 yards (and that was the game btw - that's where the bombers lost it). That being said, Willy is NOT a 400k QB- bombers hitched their wagon to the wrong guy - AGAIN! I'm a broken record, but I'll say it again. Until the bombers find their OWN QB - they are not doing anything. They might have some limited success here and there, but if they can't find a QB (and there's more out there than people think btw) the Bombers will never be significant in the CFL. The bombers are the new 'Riders, like it or not. Perennial doormats. The free space on the bingo card. And now its what - 37 games since we scored 30 points in a game. 17to85 thinks that's no big deal. Really. So if the Winnipeg Jets failed to score 4 goals or more in hockey for two seasons - that would be 'no big deal'??? 17 - that's a HUGE deal. It's a scoring league. 30 points - teams get that by accident - Calgary got over 30 yesterday and they only played half a game (well 2 and 1/2 quarters). That stat by itself tells you how effective Willy (though he probably only started about 22 or 23 of those games - but still even that's not acceptable for a 400k a year guy) and MOS are as a team.

Agreed - don't get this. There's only eight other teams. What exactly is a weak schedule? Bombers are in tough no matter who is on the dance card with them, and where it's being played. That's just a fact. Bombers have a 'tough' schedule all the way through the season lol.