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Both brohm and Marve are not good. One has no zip on the ball. The other has no accuracy. Neither are helped by the OC tho.

Mike Riley disagrees

I'm not happy at all. But I'm not gonna defend Marve after that debacle. 12 of 2096 yards. 2 ints. How could that be praised. Not happy at all. I wish Marve was better but he's not. I wish our OC was better too. But I wish our QBS could make basic throws. I just had lowered expectations from Marve cuz it's obvious he's got a long way to go. It's unfortunate but it is what it is really. Brohm sucks. Marve isn't good either. Wish one of them was

I'll Keep Walters and O'shea... The OC has got to go... need too.

This is on MB and the QB's more than anyone, did we have 100 yards of O this game? Least points scored... MB most sacks allowed... MB 100 yards on O maybe today/ MB Fire the OC NOW.

... I would fire MB before the game ends. Terrible play calling today, terrible QB play too but just terrible QB play.

I don't think so. Marve was awful, I would say this is more on the OC than anything, firing O'shea means MB becomes coach. YOU FIRE MB. NOW. 2 MINUTES AGO.

Goossen has looked good so far. Greaves not so much

Picard not playing as per cjob and the bombers twitter

Richardson tore his acl in the pre season I thought. He done all year

As for the oline. I guess you are only as strong as your weakest link. For us that's one of the guards and the center position. Bryant is a stud but can't do it all. Daniels played good enough until injured. Chungh has been good for a rookie. The one guard and center spot has been awful. Now we got a question mark with Neufeld at tackle. Wouldn't shock me to see Neufeld struggle and or get hurt again.

The biggest thing is Marve got a full week of practice as opposed to 30 minutes.

It was the play calling. So simple

Good play calling

Maver is a good punter. He nets 36.2 yards on his punts. Lirim nets 36.1 Not too bad really.

Replacement for Myers. Except franson sucks and was exposed big time when on the Preds

Sure, let's talk about Troy Stoudermire in comparison to Justin Veltung. Sure. Kick Returns Veltung has a way better average... only 7 returns for him tho but for 201 yards or a 28.7 yard average as opposed to Stoudermire who has 18 returns for 379 yards or a 21.1 average. Yup Veltung is better there for sure, an it's not close Punt Returns are a bit different story tho, they both aren't really lighting it up.. JV 9 returns for 73 yards or an 8.1 average. Stouds 27 for 214 or a 7.9 yard average Got nothing to say about the Kick Returns, Veltung has done much better but Punt Returns being so close tells me, it's not so much the returner as it is the blocking.

Sure, let's talk about Troy Stoudermire in comparison to Justin Veltung.Or starting Turner over Collins. So, Kuale being cut is a Hall decision but Turner over Collins is an O'shea one?

I'll be honest, going on about Kuale, just seems well, it's kind of pointless as he's no longer here. Can we find any recent examples? Of guys who are actually still here?

Honestly, outside of a couple i believe 4 or 5 missed extra points and a couple maybe 2 or 3 bad punts, has LH really been as bad as people believe he has been? Or do we just remember the bad things and forget about the good?

But again, to be fair, This regime isn't the type to throw players under the bus in public. I'll be the first to admit, Kuale should have been sent packing, both for his on field and off field conduct, he was getting in to it with fans on twitter, k, i'm sure some of those fans egged him on, and honestly, i'll never get going on twitter and ripping athletes a new one but... the guy go in to it on twitter with fans and was a goof on the field... Yeah, they don't throw guys under the bus in public, who knows what they do behind the scenes but yeah...Kuale is a good example of a guy getting way too many chances... But let's not pretend that the bombers are the only team to give him chance after chance after chance either, other teams have done the same with Kuale too.

Anyone else find the whole doughnut box thing very lame and annoying? Talk about lacking in creativity... I mean really, THF was being referred to as the doughnut box. That's ridiculous really.

I'm just gonna say this, watching other games and all, I've noticed that every team makes special teams mistakes, every one of them... all 9 teams in the league, games are so close for the most part this year that, lots of teams are losing those close games because of a mistake on special teams, missed FG, punt return TD, etc etc.. blocked punt, you get the idea... I'm just curious, if the numbers are out there, and yeah i think special teams is a problem here, and yeah it is surprising because o'shea was a great special teams coach but... wonder how many mistakes we have made on teams comparable to other teams in the league, do we make more? the same? less even? Is the biggest issue on teams the fact that our mistakes happen at the worst possible times? Is it a coaching issue or is it players on the field just messing up? Le'ts look at the Grey Cup last year as a perfect example, was it coaching that caused Reed to make the illegal block on Banks return near the end? or was it just Reed being stupid? I'd guess it's the latter really. What can a coach do really if a guy makes a bad decision on special teams, rosters are limited as is, you can't sit a guy on special teams and make him watch from the bench really, can you? You just don't really have the well, you don't have the bodies really to be able to do that.

The reality is.. that's your opinion. I get that you like to think you are in the room, and you have all the answers but.. step back a bit and realize, you really don't know half as much as you pretend you do. This isn't a shot at you, this goes for everybody really.. We aren't in the room, we don't know and honestly, you can quote steve morley all you want, it still means nothing.

Lol. I'm not Mr Hockey that's for sure, that's Gordie Howe, I just think... It's pretty obvious that Scheifele is our future #1 center and right now he's the #2 center, he's improving every year, he's good in his own zone and he puts up points, a guy like that will not be paid the same as a 3rd line center, I like Lowry, i like him lots, i just think he's an ideal 3rd line center and or winger for that matter, I see a future 3rd line of Lowry on the wing with a guy like Harkins up the middle, strong defensive minded 3rd line... Also, Scheif has gotten better every year, This will be Lowrys second, at least with the big club ... I think if i was a betting man, i'd bet Scheif and Trouba both get long term deals and Lowry, depending on how he does this year, will get a bridge deal, if he improves lots like Scheif has, well, maybe he gets a long term deal too. But, no way in no universe will Lowry and Scheif be paid anywhere close to the same.. Scheifs gonna get a long term deal... like Couts did with Philly, Lowry might also but it won't be for as much cash as Scheif gets that's for sure.