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I'll just say this and be done with this for now. If the Jets weren't gonna take Laine they would probably try and trade pick 2 to Columbus for pick 3 plus. Since it sounds like they aren't going to be doing that.... all signs point to Laine and much like the trouba trade speculation it's all just media bs trying to get hype and get ppl talking
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Jets don't need yet another right handed d man who is making 9 million a year. If there is deal to be made with Subban, It's Edmonton for sure. 4th and Yak doesn't get you a sniff, It's 4th and Draisaitl and it's a done deal from Montreal. That's apparently what they want. Yakupov has no value what so ever, his value is that of a late 2nd or early 3rd.
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Yup. If they pick JP... it will be because of intangibles and things of that nature, i think overall he does have higher potential than Laine, Laine is a goal scorer, that's what he does but if he's not scoring goals, he's not doing much else... I think Laine is a huge boom or bust type of pick.... I think JP is safer, little less sexier but picking top 2, you want to make sure you get a player that has some upside, Laine has some, how much? it's hard to say, Puljujarvi has a ton... he really does. The guy broke some records of his own at the World Juniors and Under 18's at Grand Forks... With all this being said tho, still think they take Laine... Just not sure why anyone would be shocked if they took Puljujarvi instead...
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Thing is Puljujarvi is ranked 3rd.... It's not exactly going off the board, It's just taking the guy that's ranked 3rd 2nd... Scheif was ranked around 16th 17th ish so that was a significant jump there, a 1 spot jump isn't what i'd call going off the board.
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Not a chance, they will protect him if he's signed to an extension. Look for the Jets to go the 1 3 7 route and that means one or more of Trouba Myers and Enstrom will be moved. If he signs an extension he will be protected, GUARANTEED. Just let's try this here... Let's just pretend they trade Enstrom... Helle Buff Trouba Myers protected 7 forwards protected... Perreault being one. That's the route they will go, one of the D men will be moved FOR SURE.
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Yup. 1 guys opinion there for sure. Trust me on this, The Jets scouts know way more than this guy does. This guy is a good source of information but he's a little number happy all the time. The guy is wrong lots. You need to trust the people who have done their due diligence, this guy hasn't talked to laine or puljujarvi, he hasn't done the due diligence that the Jets have. Perhaps in the end he's right but perhaps he's wrong also and Puljujarvi is actually the better player in the long run. Jets really can't go wrong with either of the Finns, that's what some people are missing... Laine is hyped hyped hyped but Puljujarvi isn't some scrub either, he's a very good player also just like Laine. Laine might have the flair and all that stuff but Puljujarvi is just as good.
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A guy on the radio who said he is cousin of the flordia panthers new scout richard pollack.... but... yeah, i'll believe it when i see it. Other GM's can't get a peep out of chevy but some guys cousin can? LOL
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Sorry but Friedman is just click baiting people. Not a chance the Jets add 22 to Trouba... Cam Fowler is being shopped and the ducks want 8th overall from Buffalo or 9th overall from Montreal, those are the 2 rumored destinations. Not a chance that Jets trade Trouba plus 22 for 4... If they did, they would be stupid. Trouba has more value than that... LOL at the thought that the Jets would be adding. If you are trading Trouba, which i don't think they will do, It's for a LHD.. not another forward. Chevy has already gone on record saying they are open to moving 22, they are looking for a top 9 forward and LHD... Trading for pick 4 is seriously stupid unless then the plan is to trade pick 4 away... Don't need both Laine or Puljujarvi and Tkachuk. Agreed with Mike here big time.
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Morrissey is exempt. 2013 drafted players 2014 2015 2016 are all exempt So Morrissey petan connor ehlers comrie roslovic etc are exempt. Lemieux also actually. Guys like Lipon de Leo are not.
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If panarin didn't win ghost would have. McDavid finished 3rd in the voting
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Columbus can't afford trouba. Anyone check their cap? It's not possible They don't even have the space to sign Seth Jones. They are screwed. Murray is actually an rfa in 2 years. He was drafted 2nd overall the same year trouba was drafted 9th overall. Rfa. Just signed a 2 year bridge. Most I'd do since it's Columbus wanting Laine over Puljujarvi is 2 plus Roslovic for 3 plus Werenski. If Columbus wants Laine that bad and the Jets feel that the difference between Laine and Puljujarvi isn't as huge as some think... Columbus is the one adding to move to 2... not the Jets
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Columbus apparently calling leafs and Jets about moving up... Something to consider here To Columbus Pick 2. Roslovic To Winnipeg Pick 3 Werenski or Murray Hartnell as a cap dump of sorts Jets get one of the finns, They get LHD help also. Columbus gets their finn plus a future center PLUs some cap relief. I'd consider it for sure. Puljujarvi plus a legit LHD? How couldn't you. That is worth more than Laine is.
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You sure like beating dead horses, Picking Tkachuk at 2 would be an epic fail.. If they traded down and took him, that's fine but taking him at 2 is a huge fail.
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I hear yeah there but he just said he plays the game like Ovechkin, Laine is not a dirty player out there, as a matter of fact, you look at his penalty minutes and they are very low, I just think in terms of style, that's who he compares himself too. I don't think thats a huge concern at all... Barkov compared himself to Ovechkin his draft year also and went 2nd overall to Florida and has turned in to a stud.. it's just the style they play, Right handed shooting goal scorer really. The character concerns about Laine would be more like giving his coach the finger a few years ago but... everyone is young and stupid at times and it seems like he's learned and that's all you want from a guy. I trust the scouts to make the right decision, if it's laine, so be it. If it's Puljujarvi, so be it. It's going to be one or the other. I just don't think people should get caught up in the hype of one player so much cuz you know that if the Jets take Laine and in 3 years Puljujarvi is the better player, a very real possibility, then people will be crapping on the Jets saying they should have taken Puljujarvi. I guess people need to remember that without Puljujarvi and AHO for that matter feeing Laine the puck at the World Juniors, he wouldn't have scored as much, without Barkov feeding him the puck at the World Championships, he wouldn't have done as much either. Fine line here for sure. People buying the hype too much but reality really is the gap between Laine and Puljujarvi isn't as huge as people are making it out to be. Laine has the flair, the personality, the confidence, kind of rockstar style... Puljujarvi is more humble and down to earth it seems. Wouldn't shock me one bit to see the jets walk up to the podium and say winnipeg selects from Karpat Liiga... Jesse Puljujarvi. Wouldn't shock me if they walked up and said " From Tappara Liiga, Patrick Laine".
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Not as much as the scouts know. Bottom Line.
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Yeah it would be awful to have a 50 goal scorer. For the record, I'm pretty sure this is just BOB and other GM's talking out their butts to get clicks and to hype the draft... but the other part says it's a very real possibility that the Jets take Puljujarvi instead. Personally, I'm happy with either one, It's fine with me whoever they pick as long as it is one of Laine or Puljujarvi, Toronto IS taking Matthews BTW, that's a lock for sure. Jets will have their choice between Laine and Puljujarvi and will chose the guy they feel best suits this organization... Looking at it from a Jets perspective, what do they need? They need a sniper, they have the potential to have a couple already tho in Connor and Ehlers and even Scheif for that matter. All 3 of those guys easily could be 30 goal guys if it all goes well so the head says Laine is the guy. However, the Jets do value character and they have done their due diligence here, Character is important to the JETS, it's hugely important. They have all the answers on these guys, If you listened to Chevy he's mentioned they talk to family, friends, teachers, coaches etc... it's not just as simple as holy crap this guy scored a bunch of goals... it's about the person also, how he fits, what he's like off the ice... I just don't think people who have honestly not seen either of these guys play very much should set their hopes so high on one particular player... The fact is, these scouts know more than all of us combined and have a pretty solid draft history actually, i trust their judgment. It's not my ass on the line, it's not theirs either, I'll tell you this much tho, if the Jets are making decisions based on who the fans want, Chevy and his scouts should be fired immediately. Take the guy they want and see what happens. Puljujarvi isn't some scrub either, he's a legit top 6 talent also just like Laine, he can score, he plays a 200 foot game, he's a set up guy, he can actually do it all, he's a damn good player, just like Laine... damn good player, whoever the Jets take, Likely Laine, just seems likely at this point, then I'm fine with, if it's not Laine and it's Puljujarvi, then that's ok too. They will both be very good players and down the line, 3 years from now, nobody really knows who the better player will be.
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Buying in to the hype machine 2 much I see. The gap between Laine and Puljujarvi isn't as huge as people make it out to be. But guess we will see what happens Friday Jets value character players. If Laine has any sort of character issues that the jets are aware of... they won't take him. They will take Puljujarvi. It's not always about taking the so called best player. .. it's about character potential fitting in.... among other things. If Jets pass on Laine it means they aren't convinced he's the right guy for this team. I get this feeling that Puljujarvi will be the better player in the long run. People can believe what they want but if the jets pass on Laine they have their reasons. People probably cried when jets took scheif over couturier or Hamilton in 2011 also but that worked out well. Jets know what they are doing and whoever they pick... Laine or Puljujarvi will be the right choice
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Mcdavid didn't play the full season. That's why he didn't win it. If he did win it would have been a joke of sorts. Panarin while not a pro hockey rookie was an nhl rookie and was the best rookie all season long
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All bob is really saying here is there are some teams out there who If picking at 2 would possibly take Puljujarvi over Laine. He doesn't say that the jets are one of those teams tho. It's speculation. It tells me that the jets are very tight lipped about who they are taking at 2 and rightfully so.
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FWIW I still think laines our guy but have said all along I wouldn't be surprised if they took Puljujarvi instead
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Some teams obviously feel he does. Buy hey... great response back.
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They aren't saying that at all. They are saying the gap between Matthews and Laine is greater than the gap between Laine and Puljujarvi. The Laine hype has got so many ppl who have seen him play 5 times believing he's so much better than a guy they've seen once or twice. Lol. No. Actually sounds like a few nhl scours feel Puljujarvi has higher potential hence them telling bob that the jets might take Puljujarvi instead. Tells me there are several teams who would take Puljujarvi over Laine. Laine was at the world championships so therefore all of us non pro scouts love him and think Puljujarvi sucks. If Jets don't take Laine. ..... they have Damn good reasons not to. Who knows what they are but lol at being pissed at getting 1 of the 3 nhl ready players. God. Some of you buy a Laine jersey already?
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What has Dano and Armia done at this point to warrant being protected? It's probably one or the other.