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  1. That was painful...

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    4 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

    The sky isn't falling people; here's how I see it:

    Calgary - No CFL has gone undefeated in the current 18-game format. The big advantage here is our home game against them is in Week 19. Assuming the Stamps keep up their torrid pace, they might've already locked up first at this point, which could mean an easy win for the Bombers if they rest their regular starters. If they somehow are unbeaten still at that point - you don't think the Bombers would be frothing at the mouth to hand them their first loss of the season?
    Edmonton - we only lost by 3 with Streveler at the helm, I think we come out ahead in two of three phases (defense / special teams, though EDM D also looks awful). A split here is reasonable.
    Saskatchewan - Even with a stronger D for Sask - I think we still come out ahead in the other two phases (offense / special teams), also two of these are at home, which should help the Blue and Gold here. Also - a SSK win tonight might mean they think they are world beaters heading into the back-to-back against us.
    Ottawa - I would argue our team was fat and happy on Friday night and underestimated Ottawa. The end result was a blowout, but remember that up until the 3rd quarter, we had kept it close before a major defensive breakdown. Nichols' fumble was the straw that broke the camel's back, as even at that point they were driving and it was still a two-possession game (score was 30-14 at that point).
    Montreal - The general consensus here is this game is a bingo space for us.

    So a win against OTT, EDM, one against SSK and against MTL gives us 4...meaning 9-9.
    Win the season series against SSK and beat up CAL's backups in week 19 gives us 6, making us 11-7.

    I think the flaw in your logic may be that you are assuming that Nichols will perform better than Streveler and at this point, that is highly debatable.

  4. Is MOS Our Danny Barrett?

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    3 hours ago, Mark F said:

    Team last year did not get deflated when things went awry during a game.

    Not sure if this team is that way.

    They kind of collapsed on Friday. 

    Re putting in Canadian receivers, seems like there might be an apprenticeship system here. player must be a backup for a season or two, then play. 

    Demski served his apprenticeship in Sask, so he gets to play. Peterman is doing his time now, whether or not he's ready, and maybe better than Lankford.

    Might be a flaw for this system. Along with playing guys that clearly are not good enough, for unknown (to fans) reasons, that are never given publicly.

     

    Agreed that experience is valuable for receivers, but Simonise's forte was supposed to be speed, and since some here were saying that we do not have the deep threat(s) we need, maybe he is an answer as a replacement for Lankford. Realistically, Lankford should not be that difficult to replace.

  6. That was painful...

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    As screwed-up as the Riders are, I am starting to dread the upcoming home-and-home series with them. The Riders have an excellent defence and for all his failings, Jones is a very good DC, so our stumbling offence could get their lunches eaten big time. And if our defence plays as they did Friday,even a popgun offence might be good enough to beat them. We need reason to hope.

  7. Is MOS Our Danny Barrett?

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    12 hours ago, White Out said:

    I may disagree with the harping on Nichols but there's little doubt this fan base needs a championship. Pretty badly. 

    The Bomber malaise is not all on Nichols but in tough times, teams look to their leaders and that has to be Nichols, who is not doing well at the present. Some of the blame also has to fall on the defence as a whole and the coaches.

  11. Is MOS Our Danny Barrett?

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    2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    Bad luck a couple of times cost them the WFC championship. Tevor Kennerd missing something like 3 easy FG's in 1980 & the roughing the passer penalty on John Helton in 1982 after Vince Phason had the game winning interception. Every game we played them was close. We should have beaten them twice.  The Esks were good but they were also damned lucky.

    And dumb luck will beat skill every time.

  12. Leos @ Argos / Als @ Esks

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    3 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

    Snowball's chance for the Al's but maybe if their D shows up? Considering the spanking we just took from Ottawa, maybe the Al's D (which lost 17-24 last week) is better than they are getting credit for? Or perhaps our D is just terrible and the Al's were fortuitous last week.

    Snowball's chance in Hell for the Alouettes. There is no part of their team that is working well, from the GM to the coaching to the players, but this is the Crazy Football League. Pitkin will have to walk on water to avoid a blowout.

  13. Game Day Thread- Week Ten: Ottawa ALLCAPS @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers August 17, 2018

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    3 hours ago, blueingreenland said:

    Ron Lancaster - the VERY last game he ever played in Regina - was booed off the field. The next game in Edmonton (his last), he was given a standing ovation by enemy fans.

    So sorry, no Rider fans should ever be lecturing anyone about the rights or wrongs of booing your own team.

    Personally, I don't do it. I love my team. But people have a right to do it and it often shows their passion. It would be worse if they didn't show up.

    But I do agree, as a player, one needs to be careful about what you say. You don't want to get on the wrong side of fans - hard to right that ship.

    The problem is that there is no way for the fans to vent at coaching decisions without having some that scorn falling onto the players. Booing is a pretty broad brush that gets poop on everyone involved, and sometimes that is richly deserved. Fans deserve the right to criticize they team that they are financially supporting. When they do not care enough to get angry, that is the time to worry. I hope that we do not get to the grim resignation stage.

  14. Going for 2

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    3 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

    I think more for me was the frustration on how easy it was for Ottawa to consistently convert  two on us whether it was blown assignments, being beat like a rented mule and/or stupid a$$ penalties.

    Agreed. That made me furious and was a damning condemnation of the defence. It wasn't like the Ottawa offence had the whole field to spread out- just the end zone and a bit and the Bombers still could not stop them even once. This game could be the turning point of the Bombers' season and the end of some coaches' careers.

  22. Game Day Thread- Week Ten: Ottawa ALLCAPS @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers August 17, 2018

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    2 hours ago, AKAChip said:

    What about his one catch, two drops and poor kick returns where he once even let the ball hit the turf (!) made you think he played reasonably well?

    I was expecting Lankford to completely flop, but he did make a couple of catches as well as dropping that guaranteed touchdown pass which might have changed the whole flow of the game But he did not cost us the game, and it is clear to all that he is not a kick returner and if used as such, it sets him up for failure.

  23. Going for 2

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    2 hours ago, AKAChip said:

    Going for one almost never is the right call. Even if we assume Medlock is more or less 100% on converts, we would need to go under 50% on two point converts over 10 tries to end up with less points than the maximum number of points we could get on 10 good one-point converts. Even if you make the argument that in small sample sizes, trying a slightly more risky two point convert is not worth giving up an automatic single point, not going for two when you could make it a two score game rather than three is not only foolish, it's negligent. 

    I think its symptomatic of one of O'Shea's failings as he sticks with what he has used rather than adapt.

  24. Game Day Thread- Week Ten: Ottawa ALLCAPS @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers August 17, 2018

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    2 hours ago, Floyd said:

    I'm very hopeful for Thompkins but I don't think I'm ready to say he's a great find - we've had so many guys come and go that have a couple good games, then disappear

    The Cdn scouting team is finding more receivers than Danny Mac right now...

    Clarence Denmark would be a good signing right now - maybe he fades at the end of the season, but he's 100% better than Lankford

    Even if Dressler had played at his 100% last night, we still would have lost badly. I have been critical of Lankford, but he played reasonably well last night, given his long benchwarming. I would still have started Peterman, though and replaced the late Mr. Loffler.

  25. Game Day Thread- Week Ten: Ottawa ALLCAPS @ Winnipeg Blue Bombers August 17, 2018

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    After consideration. I cannot see that this is about the talent. The talent could always be better, but this has to fall at the feet of the coaches and if O'Shea cannot make the changes needed (Hall), then he is the wrong choice for head coach. As frustrating as it is for us fans, it has to be at least as bad for the players to see their head coach not do the right thing to make the team competitive.

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