It is all but confirmed publicly that Nichols will start against the Als, and Chad Owens re-injured his leg today and is gone for an indefinite period. Why are Calgary, Edmonton Ottawa etc able to find darned good receivers but the Bombers cannot?

4 hours ago, BBlink said:

We weren't being touted as one of the best offenses at the start of the year? People forget pretty fast around here

And we thought Nichols was one of the three best QBs in the league. As the QB goes, the team goes.

2 hours ago, BBlink said:

But I do think at full strength Nichols will have enough weapons and support that he won't have to be Ray. That's when we'll get hot

Once Hardrick and Dressler are back, our starting offensive roster will be at full strength, and the Bombers were not playing well even then. Injuries are a poor excuse unless the starting QB goes down.

2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Never understood why our fastest player not return those 🙄

'Cuz our fastest player (Lankford) is fast only in straight lines.

I am not sure that Nichols' injury has much to do with his performance in the past few games. If it is, it was a time bomb that would have gone off sooner or later. Mr. Dee, you were not alone in your comparison of Masoli vs Nichols. I was one of them and the majority here even thought Nichols was better than even Harris in Ottawa and perhaps one of the top three QBs in the league. If Nichols cannot function as a pure drop-back passer, and that is the only option for him, then he needs to be replaced.

4 hours ago, pigseye said:

Lankford was our speed guy, now he's sitting on the bench, hard to figure what the plan is sometimes. 

There's a plan???

3 hours ago, Booch said:

Hey...Schmoes last year...what lost 6 or 7 in a row...and looked way more brutal than this team in doing so, with both teams having injuries during it...and they ended up just fine and were in West Final

Re-group over bye..Get Hardrick and Dressler back...Harris rested...maybe re-evaluate a few areas, possibly bring in a new guy who is proven ....and continue on and get hot when it counts

The season is no way shape or form a lost season right now...people gotta chill...it's frustrating and all...but c'mon man

But the Esks had both Reilly and a competent coaching staff plus some darned good receivers

The problem with trying to keep positive about this team is the steady downward spiral and the multitude of concerns: quarterbacking, inability to adapt the gameplan, and a suspect defence. Our import receivers are sub-par and the coaches underutilize the NI receivers. Where to begin?

Ironic, isn't it? Durant screwed the team over by bailing after getting his signing bonus, but if he were here, he would probably be starting now. We have Streveler but his experience is very limited.

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

Feels like something needs to be done to placate the fan base...  but fire who?  Buck?

Fire Osh now and Lapo is next man up... Fire Lapo and no one is next man up...

Younger could replace Hall but the D has been 'good' in the last two games - although I'd still say that Collaros just sucks...

We could cut Alex Ross again.

2 hours ago, Floyd said:

EDM trades for Martese Jackson... gives up pretty much nothing.  They just got better...

 

Teams are allowed to do that midseason?????????

5 hours ago, JCon said:

It's a home game. 

My mistake- that is going to be stressful outing for our side.

2 hours ago, Stickem said:

They certainly will especially if we're treated to some more Matty ball where he hits the opposition receivers more than the ones in bluengold...O'Shea better duck

 

2 hours ago, Stickem said:

They certainly will especially if we're treated to some more Matty ball where he hits the opposition receivers more than the ones in bluengold...O'Shea better duck

If the Bombers' next game was at home, he would probably be loath to start Nichols again, but in Montreal, far away from the suddenly hostile Bomber fans, O'Shea will feel far safer to start Nichols.

2 hours ago, do or die said:

Hopefully people will not spontaneously combust......when MOS starts Nichols against Montreal.

O'Shea's past record would indicate that he will want to live or die with Nichols , but we do not know what, if any, direction he is being given from above.

2 hours ago, wpgallday1960 said:

I'm out of town and missed the game, but is there any way Oshea starts Nichols next game?  At this point I'm prepared to go with Streveler and at least see what we have.

From O'Shea's comments after the game, it would seem probable that Nichols will start next game.

2 hours ago, 3RD AND 1 said:

You do realize that the last couple losses were not on the Bombers defence. They played incredibly well. This last game the defence held the opposition to 17 points. In fact I would take off a field goal as well as the Bombers offence gave the Riders instant field position to kick a field goal. 

These last 2 loses are on Matt Nichols. 

The Bomber defence played well against what may be the worst offence in the CFL. They will probably play "well" against Montreal, but their true colours will not be known until we play Edmonton, Calgary or Hamilton. Then Richie Hall will know whether to polish up his resume.

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I am saying be patient. These guys got us from **** to a lot of wins the past few years, why throw em all out on their asses at the very first sign of adversity? Let em rebound from this, they've earned that chance.  But no, some of you are just so angry it's hard to believe you are functioning adults. Lashing out demanding people answer for these losses right now! I'm pissed off and I want blood! rabble rabble rabble. 

FIRST SIGN OF ADVERSITY???? Which team are you watching?

2 hours ago, TheBandit said:

You need to come back down to reality man. You keep saying the Riders suck. They've beaten our team twice.

 

We suck. End of story.

The Riders are not a good team, and won both games only because Nichols threw the games away- literally.

2 hours ago, BBlink said:

Even the previous game we were a few blunders away from winning.  The record will show 2 Rider victories..and good on them.  But honestly I still think we are a much better team overall when healthy.

Better, maybe. What team is not better when healthy? But good enough......?

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

Are we sure on the date of this article? Because it reads more like something from Nichols first start here which was not long after he was acquired in a trade, you know considering that was when Moore was last here and all. 

It was posted today, but the reference to Moore was a puzzler.

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

This is Winnipeg, regime changes just mean further pain and suffering. I mean we all thought it would get better firing tired old Dave Ritchie and his outdated thinking, or mediocre Doug Berry and his average results, but surely going from Lapo to hot shot coordinator Tim Burke would fix everything! 

So forgive me if I don't buy into this crap that it's going to get better firing a coach or GM. We've been doing that for years and it's not gotten us a Grey Cup. This regime is the closest thing to consistency we've had in almost 2 decades. I am willing to give Walters and O'Shea more time to fix this. 

 

Speak for yourself. Dave Richie had overstayed his welcome and had become very reluctant to part with his favourite players, but I did not like Doug Berry's firing at all. That said, I was ok with the firing of every coach since then, and was leery about O'Shea.

From 3downation:

"I recently spoke with someone who asked Nichols about that game approximately a year ago. Nichols told him that he (understandably) didn’t yet have full command of the Bombers’ playbook, saying that he mostly focused on knowing which route Nick Moore would be running prior to each play. "

That Nichols didn't know the Bomber playbook after a year and half does not speak well for his intelligence,

2 hours ago, blueandgoldguy said:

BC is actually pretty good at home.  Their defense was particularly impressive against the Esks a few weeks back.  Reilly was sacked a few times, including a fumble; defensive backs played tight to the receiver swatting away a few balls that looked like catches; limited the eskies to very few yards in the last quarter.  Factor in eastern teams having to travel 3 time zones for away games in BC and I think they can win 7.  Their offense is unimpressive, but the defense looks good.

 

Bombers have to win at least 2 more to cross over.  Lose next week to Kavis -  built roster and imo the season is done.

With the current temperament and makeup of the team, a convenience store (7-11)  looks likely. BC is not that far behind us and God only knows how the Argos and Als will finish the season.

Sorry duplicate post

5 hours ago, TheSource said:

He'd be fine in a different organization if Walters was a different type of GM.

Walters and Oshea are a bad combination because OShea is too much of a nice guy and Walters is far too passive.

If OShea had someone riding him and forcing him to make the tough decisions (kind of like good cop/bad cop) I think he'd be a better coach. 

Do you not think that if, after five years, a head coach has to be spoon-fed on decisions, that means he is not fit to be a head coach? Friends of mine who have been season ticket holders for 20+ years have told me that they will not attend any more games this year after Saturday's debacle. They are knowledgeable and have all the Bomber regalia but they have had enough and will not renew unless there are major changes.