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20 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:
So who do we think Hogan will pick as his assistants? I am betting on Thomas for DC in a dual role.
Anything to keep him off the firld.
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1 hour ago, Mark H. said:
Indeed. Got to be able to defend against old man Harris, in that situation.
1 hour ago, Mark H. said:Indeed. Got to be able to defend against old man Harris, in that situation.
BC had little pressure on Harris, but Montreal's pass rush is way better, so Harris is not going to have the same time as he had last game. That ought to be the difference.
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My takeways from the game:
1. Despite all of the mocking in this forum, O'Day built a better team for the past two years than Wlaters
2.) All of the playoff QBs in the playoffs (plus two other CFL QBs) are better than Collaors
3. Rourke is a legit primo QB
4. BC would have won if not for a crappy defence
5. IMO, the Als will beat the Riders in the Grey Cup game
6. None of this is any comfort for Bombers fans
2 minutes ago, Mark H. said:And a ton of time spent reviewing the play. I was sure it was a catch, but from this angle it should have been overturned.
That was my first reaction but I thought the officials had a better view.
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2 hours ago, 17to85 said:
Mos and Thomas are a 2 for 1 deal.... final offer
We can add Kolankowski as a throw-in.
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1 hour ago, Mike said:
I don’t necessarily think that’s entirely fair to say. It’s going to be a long road back personnel wise before any coach (O’Shea included) has success here.
Despite what O’Shea thinks, we need a total overhaul. The roster is ancient and being held together with duct tape and chewed gum.
The same wilful blindness and stubbornness that O'Shea used to create this current mess will not allow him to acknowledge it or change his M.O. Sad to say, the longer it takes for a definitive statement about the GM and HC positions, the more probable that there will be no change. That would be a huge mistake and will be reflected in the efforts and successes of the players in 2026.
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1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:
Why would anybody want LaPo again? Seen that movie here and it was not great and the sequel in Ottawa was worse.
Am not advocating for LaPolice, but he may have learned from his experiences. As an example, Paul Maurice was quite open in saying that his past bad experiences as head coach in Toronto, Carolina and Winnipeg made him a better coach for the Panthers.
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45 minutes ago, blue85gold said:
I'm not 100% opposed to OSH returning if he can show that he can make changes needed.
If he can't recognize that Hogan was a mistake and wants to keep continuity there, then I think OSH should be shown the door.
Hamilton's column in the Freep today talked about why he didn't think OSH would go to Toronto. Basically saying that OSH wouldn't want to be in an environment where he had to make lots of changes and couldn't keep with continuity. Good description of OSH but also good reasons why we need to move on here.
Good post. Yes, O'Shea has absolutely disclosed why he no longer should be the Bomber head coach. He also described himself as a control freak.
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4 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Khari Jones is too busy booking ads for boner and heart meds.
AS a girlfriend of mine once said,"a hard man is good to find".
- Dr Zaius, Piggy 1 and rebusrankin
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
if you read between the lines...aprt of what BO is saying about re-signing here is dependant on whats around him .....and he talking other offensive talent be it on the line....reciever and most importantly who is gonna create the offence.....and rightfully so
What player on either side of the ball would wanna re-up here, let alone sign here fresh with the knowing they likely to be playing with...or behind garbage, and garbage coaching....I'll tell you....none...zero...careers are short enough as it is and the window to win even shorter which is the main goal of any player
Guys who will tho...The JT's....Kolo's....the aged out guys with zero future who can still play a bit...but not at elite levels...and prob nowhere else, and offer zero upside...thats who...kinda what we have littered our roster with the last 3 ..4 yrs and the end results spoke for themselves....
If I read O'Shea's personality correctly, he will absolutely balk at not having "his guys" and bail- we can only hope.
44 minutes ago, Booch said:Id personally approach Khari...he got done raw at the end of his last gig
He's not a tool...is connected...a players coach but one who plays the talent...name recognition...
JJ stays as OC but has a lot of input from Jones but allows Jones to focus on the game and whats going on
Players who have played for him love and rave about him as well...Elevate Younger to DC/Ass head coach with more say/sway with whom we go after player wise.
And there are players in the league who still make a difference that would come to wpg cause hes here...
Simple...effective.. seamless
I am also a Khari cheerleader.
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2 minutes ago, Booch said:
yup....arguably the worst defensive front in recent history...2 yrs running when you really look at it...
Hopefully OC Guy just packs up his Volkswagen Beetle and leaves voluntarily...I dont know what he drives...But that's what I see him in
I could see him in a Lada.
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Just now, blue85gold said:
Curious what you're basing him wanting Hogan back on
I believe it was a recent Free Press article.
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17 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:
Just rewatched the end of the game l because I am an idiiot.
Around four and a half minutes left, down by 6. The D gets a huge stop. Vaval gets a decent return, helped by a penalty. Offense takes over at the 45 with just over 4 minutes to go.
What do they do? Throw away under pressure with no receivers in the same zip code, and a two yard pass to Wheatfall. Punt.
Fire Hogan.
I hope I am wrong on both counts, but it looks like O'Shea will be back and he apparently wants Hogan back. FOURLETTERWORD!
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2 hours ago, Booch said:
that's actually part of whats hurting him....He excels in that role...can fill in at guard...center...I bet RT too.....use as a TE on run schemes...road grader on short yardage....is viscious in second level...KOLO cant fill in anywhere let alone even play center at a decent degree....and our lack of depth is stonewalling Eli...he's a victim of a poor roster...poor scouting....poor coaching decisions...
O'Shea's use of Eli is one of the biggest issues, IMO. Kolankowski has been the weak link in the O-line and I have a very difficult time seeing Eli as as bad as or worse. Versatility be damned, Kolankowski is not and has not been good enough and likely contributed to Collaros's inkjuries but O'Shea has been oblivious to all that. From O'Shea's comments, he expects to return as head coach so we are likely looking at an even worse year in 2026. This reminds me of how a Russian farmer described his crop prospects for the current year:" Worse than last year but better than next."
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6 minutes ago, Slimy Sculpin said:
I'm leaning towards Kolankowski. So, what are the responsibilities of the centre? He's got to snap the ball either shotgun or short to the QB. Kolankowski seems OK with this but I've noted several mis-fires both long and short over the season. He's also got to call out or adjust blocking assignments for the called play based on what he sees of the defense. I don't know how he did this, yelling above the crowd noise? He certainly didn't do it by hand signals. And, given the way our QBs were under duress during most plays, he might not have done a good job of this. As for blocking, he looked terrible to my eyes. As someone else posted earlier, he was always looking for someone to block. And, I think that he is undersized.
From my understanding of O-line play, being undersized is not a deal-breaker but can be compensated by intelligence and technique. Not sure if either of those adjectives apply to Kolankowski.
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3 hours ago, 3rdand1.5 said:
I believe if we still had Buck or Lapo calling the plays on O, we win at least another game or two and would have possibly been fighting for first in the West....
Easiest change has to be OC
Second to that we need to spend, turn over more rocks to improve the lines....they are not as bad as they looked, but we can not have "good" or "reliable" any longer...
IMO you give Zach a better O-line and real offensive scheme, give Younger an improved D-line, and give OSH a few players and an OC that take tasks away from him and leads like Biggie, Harris or Buck did and I believe we would be a damn good team.......But we cannot fill those with "good" or "reliable" like we rolled out this year we need to find "great" and "exceptional"
The thinking and attitudes that produced three years of very predictable decline are not going to go away. If nothing changes, then nothing will change.
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3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:
After reading the article that @SpeedFlex27 cited, it does seem like MOS wants to keep the status quo, not just players but Hogan too. To which I say barf.
That's why we need the GM and/or BOD to step forward and wield an axe. Mille has shown himself to be pretty astute but he has to show that O'Shea's and Hogan's performances are worthy of dismissal.
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14 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
How can you say Thomas os not the problem but the Defensive Line sucks? Thomas plays on the DL in a 3 man front & gets destroyed. Playng his ass off means nothing if he loses on most plays.
You think getting blown out doesn't affect the play of that line, think again. We have a DC who dresses ten linebackers & then plays a 3 man front. There is no pressure. QBs can just sit there & pick their targets. Give the secondary some credit as I think they have played well. What a goofy base defense. Jordan Younge must love Cheetos.
Younger may not have a choice as to who he fields or even puts on the active roster. I cite Buck Pierce's offence in BC as more effective than he led here.
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3 minutes ago, johnzo said:
sucks that the Bombers aren't in it, but have to say this is a compelling CFL playoff bracket with four legit finalists.
Am rooting for a BC vs. Montreal final, I think that'll be the best hope for a classic grey cup starring two great young QBs .... but will settle for anyone but the riders.
decide on a word worse than "suck" and use it for the Riders.
Mothersuckers?
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4 hours ago, Booch said:
well said....and actually an under the radar loss in terms of accountability and making sure guys stayed accountable was letting Kongbo walk for basically just a piddly amount of money...we could have had him back here
I think WJ still adds value, and should get a look in camp.....but needs to reestablish himself and show if it was scheme/role....or just loafing.....for his position he is not old by any standard especially body type wise..I think it was a cumulative thing here in what we were doing....and the lack of impact dlineman to work with.....That being said he needs to have to come back at lesser price tag and also be a true rotated guy....it would allow him and whatever 3...4 others we should be rostering flourish
I hope that Big Willie was negatively affected by having to play on a line that featured Jake Thomas, but I rather doubt it. He has been here long enough and contributed enough to be given the choice of either retiring with full honours or invited to camp with the understanding that he will have to compete for his job- no favours. As a matter of fact, everyone should have that understaanding.
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4 hours ago, wbbfan said:
The large majority of those guys are locked up for next year.
he brought in the rookie ends who looked damn good.
He wouldn’t talk to the media late season, Nor would he or the other gms now eliminated do any thing before gc week. Even then, the majority of the pressers league wide will wait till after the gc. Doing it during the play offs is poor form.
Because the gc is here, if we have a plan we can start right away, announcing what we can during the gc week makes sense.
Yep, and the fact we ran a bunch of stuff in tc only to not use it at all during the season.
That could be jackson coming in and us realizing in pre season that hogans playbook is cooked. Just dismal though.
If this is what’s being publicly said, imagine the crap they aren’t willing to say to the media, or to each other.
I'm pretty sure I said much the same last year, but if the team is going to make major changes, the sooner the better. I like the RBs approach of not allowing any uncertainty to fester and canning Bobby Dyce straight off. Fortune favours the brave.
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O'Shea for all his faults is not (entirely) stupid. He has to know that his track record for the past 3 seasons was damning and if he wasn't going to be fired this year,, given his personality, it would be next. There is a saying that if you are at the edge of a cliff, if is better to jump than be pushed- you have a better choice of where you land.
I an and have been convinced for some time that O'Shea's time here was done as he had become a liability. I am waffling about Walters. If he was privately dissatisfied with O'Shea and was engaged in a lost-lose-lose power struggle with O'Shea, then perhaps, with O'Shea gone, he can right the ship. My gut says that was likely the case. Nonetheess, if he leaves, clearing the decks might not be a bad idea.
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