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As Mark Twain said, "There are lies, there are damned lies, and then there are statistics." They have also been referred to as mathematical self-pleasuring.
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Given that we are unanimous in our reactions to and condemnation of the debacle that was last Saturday, is it safe to assume that both Walters and Miller as well as the majority of fans feel the same way and are at the end of their patience with this coaching regime?
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1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:
Had to stay away from here for the remainder of the weekend to let myself cool down. I can't remember being that upset over a loss in a long long time.
Still unbelievable that they lost. However, this time last year things were looking even worse. Bombers still control their destiny, they've made the playoffs. Just need to stop thinking the game is one with 30 minutes left in it.
Also I really like the way Streveler is developing. Made a few mistakes, but also made a few great plays. Here's hoping he continues movin on up.Agreed, but I allowed myself the freedom to vent. We are two thirds of the way through the season, and still making the same dumb mistakes.
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3 hours ago, Booch said:
correct me if I'm wrong but we are still in first...win next week which is a given because this team is pissed beyond belief right now and we are still in first, Montreal coming here will receive the same game Sask got from a pissed team that knew they shouldn't have lost and that has us at 11 wins...I truly don't see Sask beating us in 2 weeks...even in their crapper bowl of a stadium, and if we split with CGY...we stayed in first...wire to wire...that's how I see it panning out...so correct me if I'm wrong then...lol
We're standing on the outside looking in, but the players are living this crap playcalling and feeling the sting of games they ought to have won. How long before they give up and start losing on-field discipline? Doug Brown talked about the time (in the Jim Daly era, I think) when the defensive coaching was so inept that the defense would huddle on the field after each play and decide among themselves on what to do. Are we there yet?
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35 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:
The offence puts up 428 yards, 31 points, and wins TOP by 5 minutes. The defence gives up 528 yards, a 60 yard pass and run in the last minute of the game and a TD with seconds left on the clock. Fans blame the offence for not getting 1 more first down to seal the win.
I'm not a MOS fan, but he was right. Run the ball. Keep the clock running. Kick deep. Rely on your defence to stop Montreal from scoring a TD and a convert to win the game with just over a minute left from 90ish yards away.
Disagree. The proof is that we lost the damned game in the same way we lost in the LDC and against the Argos. O'Shea should have been smart enough to see that the defensive backs had suddenly developed terminal stupidity and the offensive game plan was moribund. He should have called a time out or at least mandated a change in game plan.
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1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:
What I can't begin to fathom is how an unstoppable running game in the first half completely ceases up in the second half.
Booch can answer better than I, but I suspect that all you need do is stack the box and get a linebacker to spy on Streveler all the time. The obvious answer to that is to lob the ball into the medium 10 yard area to a tall receiver who can both catch and run (hello Drew Wolitarsky- anyone remember him 'cause the offensive game plan didn't).
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1 minute ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:
O'Shea admits to instructing LaPo to run the ball to run the clock out on the last drive so it's not all on LaPo.
1:12 of yesterday's interview.
https://www.bluebombers.com/2019/09/21/coach-oshea-post-game-51/
Same reply as last thread.
Is O'Shea taking the bullet for LaPolice here? Whoever made the decision was stupid or drunk, as the running game had completely dried up by then. Did O'Shea also direct LaPolice to do this against the Riders and Argos?
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18 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:
It was weird ending to the game for me.. the wife was totally into the game, enjoying and understanding it all. Enjoying the Bombers great start to the game....and then as the Bombers collapsed she was swearing at the Bombers, calling players names when they we're screwing up...... it brought a tear to my eye seeing her getting back to her old self..... we are just going to continue to believe this is the year.
Great to hear that she is feeling feisty enough for that. A very good sign.
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1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
No reason to think this season won't end the same as the last few. Making the playoffs isn't good enough anymore. We have to win the Grey Cup.
I would settle for being in the Cup game and even if we lose a close game. In a one-game winner-take-all, anything can happen, but getting there is non-negotiable for me.
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1 hour ago, 17to85 said:
Did they forget what happened last time we played them? And if we had the benefit of only playing 3 quarters against Montreal there would have been no troubles either.
Or the game against Toronto, or the LDC game against the Riders
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53 minutes ago, Captain Blue said:
Thing is, Montreal never really did end up stopping our offense that much. It wasn't like they shut down Streveler at all. We could throw and run mostly successfully, except at the end of the game when it was far too obvious.
When it counted, the Als changed up their offensive and defensive games plans, and the Bombers..............
- Deiter Fan, DR. CFL and Starman115
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1 minute ago, Captain Blue said:
Watching the game again, it doesn't feel nearly as bad as I thought.
Streveler was really good. This is someone we can really build around. He made one mistake all day and it cost us big time. LaPolice needs to let him throw more though. Once the aerial attack is going then you sprinkle in his running and he can't be stopped. LaPo called a QB run on 2nd and long when the Als desperately needed a stop and brought a blitz. Classic LaPo.
Defense was also mostly really good, until about halfway through the fourth. The secondary had way too many breakdowns. Blitzes couldn't get anywhere on the last few drives so combine that with the secondary falling apart you get the quick scores from Montreal.
I have concerns with the late game management, but ultimately we let them score a TD when they started at their own 16 with 1:03 left on the clock. Then we still had them on their own 30 with 30 seconds left. Secondary blew it on the chunk play again, which was really the only way to let them in it.
Streveler was good, but it came down to the Als stopping the running plays and the passing game was so poor that it wasn't a threat, so the offence died out. And then the "defensive backs" in general and Hecht in particular started into their Keystone Kops coverage routine. To make it short: the Bombers got out-coached again. Yes, it was Hall and LaPolice but this steaming pile lies at the feet of O'Shea.
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12 hours ago, B-F-F-C said:
I’m on vacation in Mexico so I couldn’t watch the game. Checked the score at the half, end of the 3rd and then end of the game. Not surprised by the end result.
But perfect example of the teacher (khari Jones) one upping the master (Lapo) .
Put me in a bad mood tonight and of course my doesn’t understand as she doesn’t follow sports.
Oh well at least I’m in paradise.
Consider yourself fortunate to not have watched that travesty of a collapse.
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36 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:
I fear yesterday's loss and that to the Argonauts earlier this summer will come back to haunt this team when it comes to winning the division.
Its not the freaking loss! Its the same goddam collapse that we've seen far too often.
- blue_gold_84 and Deiter Fan
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9 minutes ago, Floyd said:
Anybody who can fond a positive in this Bomber loss is an eternal optimist. Total inexcusable collapse.
Nothing but a 'bomber shill' on twitter... 🙄
Wish I could listen to the post game - I like hearing Bob when he's pissed ha
You would have been disappointed. Nothing but softball questions and cliched answers. No insight into the collapse or what the plans might be to correct yet another embarrassing implosion. The players change and yet the results are the same, so maybe its not the players who are at fault.
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1 minute ago, captaincanuck12 said:
So who's going to fan appreciation tomorrow?
If they allow fans to bring rotten eggs, tomatoes and dead cats, I'm in.
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2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Because it wasn’t prevent, it never is.
To be honest, it wasn't a defence int he second half, either.
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1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
As you can see from the post game reaction, a lot of us won't be getting over this game anytime soon.
Barring something miraculous happening, we will make the playoffs and soil the sheets in another heartbreaking loss- probably to the Riders, to add insult to injury.
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The second half of this game was classic Nichols as directed by LaPolice. Something has to change.
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Just now, do or die said:
Pull in the horns on O. Collapse like a cheap paper bag on D. If we don't finish first....we can look at this and the TO game, as to why...
It doesn't matter at all where we finish if we cannot hold the lead in critical games.
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Gonna be real interesting to hear O'Shea explain this debacle away.
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Just now, AKAChip said:
Gotta feel for Streveler. Medlock and the defence wear this one.
Streveler and the offence did absolutely nothing to help themselves in the second half. Montreal adjusted, Bombers did squat.
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This game is a perfect example of why this team will not win the west, let alone the Cup.
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Useless Hecht blows it again
Playcalling or execution? Play-by-play breakdown of offence vs. Mtl.
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A good recap of the game on 3downnation: https://3downnation.com/2019/09/21/bombers-collapse-out-east-again-10-other-thoughts/