7 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

What we know for fact is that Darby played at an all star level for us last year. Not 5 years ago, last year

I don’t really give a fug about how he played in Hamilton. 
 

 

same.....and december was when he last played...and balled out...not even a full 10 months ago

 

8 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Yeah I'm not trying to blame one or the other, but the combo of 2 rookies is just painful. Unless they're Alford and Nichols it's too much to ask.

yeah...that was a once in a generation...or one time you will ever see that again event

3 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Nah **** it, everyone had no problem punching down  on the Bombers, I still got a whole pile of **** yous to give out. 

yeah i kinda agree....they clung to their #1990 thing with all their might...not even realizing that even though they won a few cups in that time...we still had 6 more than them...now 8

2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

You mean players might look different in different systems? With different supporting casts and playbooks? 

Take a look at who the Bombers have turned into All stars on their back end and where they came from. Just off the top of my head Jones and Maston were cast offs I believe, Taylor too...though I could be wrong about that one. The coaches know who fits in with their style and Darby is absolutely one of them. 

Just need our LBs to get healthy now...well mainly our WLB. Come on Wilson!!!

Taylor and Maston were cast offs....technically Darby was too as T.O sent him packing for a PR olineman whom they cut...

6 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Agudosi seems like more of a nice bonus, than an important piece. Like, Woogie and Ellingson would be the Top 2 pieces to get back, but Agudosi could be a rotational piece that would be a nice extra option. 

yeah...he wouldnt be taking anyones spot...he would be that extra guy...if roster allows it....and good depth is someone gets hurt and cant play next game

1 minute ago, Bigblue204 said:

Darby is an actual all star though...like the last time the league said "hey who should we vote for league stars?" Darby was on that list....

and the fact he was in and out of Hammies line up means absolutely nothing...not an indcation of his talent...and come first game here again...will be obvious

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Dane Evans absolutely raped them and if faj was any kind of qb he could have done it too. That side of the secondary with Parker and Holm is an absolute sore spot and needed help in the worst way. Teams are just absolutely going after Parker especially. 

they going after him tho as the scheme we been running to try and help him is to have him play way off and keep it all in front....and was doing ok enough for us with Taylor in...but since he went out, and Holm took over its been a gapping hole and a huge issue....Holm if u watch the field is lost a lot....takes wrong guy...or realizes to late to impact the play in regards to breaking it up, or preventing significant gains...what you see via TV angles doesnt tell the whole story....Parker gets a lot of the hate which is a bit unjust

Even with the tv shots, last game alone you can see several instances of Holm spinning around in circles trying to figure who his man was...he's a rookie...playing with another rookie...what would you expect.

1 minute ago, 17to85 said:

I know you don't like him but to me Parker seems to be picked on more than Holm. Bottom line both on the same side is trouble. 

from what I seen Holm looked lost more than not...both got picked on sure....it obvious, but when Parker was in before Taylor went out....he was more than serviceable for a raw rookie

 

2 minutes ago, Noeller said:

 

interesting and a good sign....sounds like he itching to get the thumb's up to start participating...thats what guys do to try and influence the process....getting him back for late season would be a fairly big development...he will take a lot of the safety's attention away from some our other play makers..

1 minute ago, do or die said:

Sure, Wilcotts has potential, but we are talking about bolstering the one area (D back 7) that might of derailed a shot at the three peat...............

and right now thats what we need...so savy move and fact of the matter we can prob get same production if not more from Adams...and possibly Massie...and who knows...MACK could be a call away as well for a depth role

As per what I figured Rutz is fine...so prob see Darby in Holms spot...Parker on corner...or would assume as much

yeah....was his solid as a rock self...so keep doing what they been doing in practice...he doesnt need reps or have to work on technique..I think he has that all covered at this point in his career lol

not concerned...keep him fresh

8 minutes ago, Brandon said:

I don't think our DB's were so bad that adding 2 average players makes them way better.     It's a step up but this isn't like we recruited a couple of all stars that are game changers. 

Darby and Lawrence are far from average....and are leaps and bounds better than Holm and Parker.....as well both have 2+ yrs of CFL experience, and know the game, players and less apt to be fooled or make "rookie" errors than Holm and Parker...which is key...and huge and yes...sorry to say makes us way better in the back end...how you dont see that is baffling

5 minutes ago, Geebrr said:

Darby was literally an all star last year

exactly...and can play all positions as well as SAM....but sure...lets keep trotting Holm out there

1 minute ago, Mike said:

I just like the guy’s activity level. Not built at all the same way but with the active hands, the motor and the aggressiveness … reminds me of Willie a bit 

yeah he has a motor...and is aggressive...a shorter more powerfull Willie...would be a good compliment to the Jeffs

 

1 minute ago, Geebrr said:

When I saw he was released I had a feeling we would be in on him. Hard to find guys who have played well in the past just kicking around this time of year 

I hoped we would be...and if true...Adding BA....and now Darby back...Possibly Lawrence if this is legit...our DB's just got a ****-ton better...like wayyyy better

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

I know it’s not the way we do things typically, but I sure would like to see Boom Massie get a shot in the lineup before Adams.

I agree....and we did insert those 2 other guys right away...so...we could see him on roster and reps given...when we created havoc...it was when we had 4 ends on roster...and at times all on field together

1 minute ago, Geebrr said:

MOS said Kramdi was in because of the package they were running. 
 

Did not mention anything about injury at all. 
 

I think Darby is playing DB 

I also liked Wilcots II

Gotta give to get I guess 

if he on a one yr deal....or gets PR'd over there to close out season a good chance he is back next yr...and also with Taylors injury/age and who knows when he could be back to game ready, a good chance Darby is here next yr as well...which isnt a bad thing

13 minutes ago, Mike said:

I love getting Darby back but this is pretty bad in terms of having to give up an asset at a spot we’re razor thin at just to get a guy that’s been on the practice roster pretty much all year.

I wonder how beat up Rutledge is.

yeh...hate to see Wilcotts go...and feel bad for him...but maybe they like the new dude they just signed, and Jeffcoat obviously they just want to get healthy, as I am certain he would have played if it was a playoff tilt...So with the Jeffs...one of the new guys and Adams maybe they feel thats all they need? Rutz I dont think is hurt bad...I thinkj I saw him maybe hurt a finger well before he went out...he played on defense, and then the last punt return play for us...and didnt get hurt and came off the field and looked just fine, and did not return, but was getting no assistance from trainers on side lines....I dont think it is anything keeping him out and maybe just a smart decision to rest and get others some reps

Darby tho is a big signing...and figured it was gonna happen...i thought last week, but he can solidify a spot at corner or halfback...even play safety and we know he plays SAM...we just need Houston back now and we may be looking just fine in the back end...and I sure he is pumped to be back and will elevate his game

7 minutes ago, Nolby said:

The bonus is he's likely on the cusp of plug in and play,wonder if he'd be on the depth chart for Saturday.

yeah he knows our defence....and he knows the CFL...he will be in lineup garuanteed to get his groove back here

Just now, Bubba Zanetti said:

Abdominal

yeah from seeing it figured was something core related...hopefully they just giving him extra rest and he back by final game of season for a tune up

I think Woli will be back before season's end....with a brace...but he finished 2019 that way

What is the Houston injury....was it ever reported?...hip flexor?...oblique? his return would be huge too

 

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

https://3downnation.com/2022/10/04/lemon-for-dpoy/
 

The modp is wide open especially in the west This year but I don’t think lemon deserves it. Half of his sack production has come against Edmonton. In 6 games against the bombers and lions he has 1 sack 9 tackles 0 ff. 

Ballantyne is a turd....he is happy to bring up that Lemon has more sacks than Willy and Jeffcoat "the bookends" combined, but fails to mention Jeffcoat been playing hurt all yr and has missed 4 games....and no mentions of knockdowns...biased writing at its finest

1 minute ago, bearpants said:

It's like their twitter account is actively trying to get made fun of... this Dan Clark tweet and the other one about "positives from the last game" are simply just laughable... if our teams were reversed, I'd be so embarrassed of my team

yeah...wtf were those??....just sad

10 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Putting aside Durant’s ‘09 season, and Matt Nichols career in Winnipeg, I’ll just ask you how are the injuries to the Bomber playmakers in 2002 and 2003 the fault of the OC?

i dunno......look at the injuries Buck has dealt with here...starting center...knicked up tackles.....ellingson out....demski missing games....woli out....as well as integrating a new RB....and we humming along just fine...so a good OC it appears gets the  most, and production out of his players available....I guess an average one doesnt??

10 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

End of discussion. 

that cup wasnt a result of Lapo's offence....funny that Buck is that picture too, as he had a huge hand in things as well...and his offence now is night and day more explosive and prolific....if you wanna say the success was a result of the OC...Then Buck has slayed Lapo as he is 25-5 as the OC

10 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Does Khari’s best season ever under him count? Or Darian Durant’s development into a starter? Buck Pierce when healthy had possibly his best season ever under LaPo. Matt Nichols had his best success under LaPolice’s offence. As for Streveler, I would argue in part his “regression” as a thrower was in part due to teams getting tape on him and figuring out how to defend him (don’t let him run and force him to beat you with his arm). He had the same offence that Nichols and Collaros had but with poorer results, more INTs, and a losing record. LaPo was able to tweak his game around his option play running scheme, and it garnered him an NFL look. Where he continues to struggle as a pure passer in his first few years (see Bomber Esiason’s scathing commentary in game after a bad Streveler pick). 

I get the perception since other than Durant he has not taken a raw rookie and made him a solid starter. And he isn’t the QB guru like the Stamps coaches. But words like “no one” and “terrible” is the kind of exaggeration that leads to push back from the “apologists”. But don’t equate that defence with “he is blameless” because he isn’t. He is a micromanager which killed him as a head coach, because he couldn’t decide if he wanted to manage the game or draw up the offence, and he was incapable of doing both effectively. He is not head coach material, no debate there. 

Khari...i say nope...as that was a drop back and chuck offense...stretching field...taking chances

Durant...could care less about Rider drivel...but from what I recall wasnt that slop Lapo serves up now...was more a standard push it offence...and a QB who made stuff happen with legs...same with Buck's handfull of games where he was healthy...they pushed the ball....didnt play the style he promotes now.

Matt Nicols as well started out here with a more vertical attack, and it morphed into the Lapo way...and Streveler was just fine his first season as a thrower, and a runner...he got nuetered when Lapo realized what a runner he was, and made him into this gimmick project, and it hampered his success as a passer, and he rarely was in schemes to be throw first...and teams seen it, as did everyone else...when he came in you knew exactly what was gonna happen. There was no way it was Lapo's brainwave that got Strev his NFL look....he got a look as he had 4 yrs now under his belt as a QB with success, as coming out of school he basically had barely 2 yrs as a QB....but if you look at his tape he was a passer with gaudy passing stats, and great running stats.

if you take what Boomer says as an indication of anything...I dont know what to say....based on 1 play...thats just laughable

Collaros was able to make things work within that Lapo system but if you break it down and look at it...he went off script, and looked downfield, and created plays...look at Harris recieving numbers when Collaros took over, as well as target location on the field....it all but dried up for Harris, as did the targets from 2-3 yards from line of scrimmage and behind....and the teams over all record since is reflective of the play not to lose Lapo scheme...

He was decent to a point in the early stages of his career, but after he did his U.S tour of football clubs to "gather" ideas, he turned himself into a self generated smartly pants. trying to be the smartest dude in the room and the results from that point on forward were average at best....we won the cup here in 2019 despite his system...not because of it...

 

4 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Don’t mention MH and kilos in the same sentence 

Hahah....yeah no doubt eh?

thing with Roberts...for a little dude who didnt train,,,,he carried the load injury free basically...and how many games did we watch him in the fourth quarter when everyone knew he was getting the ball just grind out first down after first down to kill out the clock...phenomenal what he did, in the tiny lil cheeseburger lovin smoking body...interesting fact tho...strength wise and if he did enter the weight room he was phenomenally strong...like almost in an unbelievable way...lil fella just was gifted...too bad he didnt stay on track here and get in 3 or more good years

1 hour ago, Blue_Dragoon said:

Harris, Lawler, Stove... Most of our biggest free agent losses have ended up injured this year.

yeah....hard to say if Lawler would have got hurt here...likely not having to dive all over the field to make catches,,,but Stove did himself in training...and Harris was inevitable in my opion...so 2/3rds of a bullet dodged