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    the watcher got a reaction from BomberD in Week 2 - The Champs @ RedBlacks - GDT   
    For F##$%  sake  show the damn game . Why the hell are they doing an interview in the middle of the damn game.
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    the watcher got a reaction from Rod Black in Week 2 - The Champs @ RedBlacks - GDT   
    For F##$%  sake  show the damn game . Why the hell are they doing an interview in the middle of the damn game.
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    the watcher reacted to Rod Black in Week 2 - The Champs @ RedBlacks - GDT   
    SHOW THE EFFEN GAME, 
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    the watcher reacted to Arnold_Palmer in Week 2 - The Champs @ RedBlacks - GDT   
    Anyways I decided after going out with a few friends to watch game one of the Stanley Cup finals and drinking too much to take a break from alcohol for a bit. I normally do a sober February and I always feel great about myself, so I’m going to try to abstain from alcohol for a little bit this summer, very few bomber games have been watched sober so looking forward to it and maybe seeing things in a slightly different light tonight!
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    the watcher got a reaction from Tracker in Covid-19   
    A short time ago we were shocked at numbers like that. 
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    the watcher reacted to Tracker in Covid-19   
    I am concerned that we will become so inured to these preventable deaths that we will recalibrate and accept them as inevitable and acceptable.
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    the watcher got a reaction from Mark F in The Environment Thread   
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/15/new-data-reveals-extraordinary-global-heating-in-the-arctic
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    the watcher got a reaction from blue_gold_84 in The Environment Thread   
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/15/new-data-reveals-extraordinary-global-heating-in-the-arctic
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    the watcher reacted to Sard in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    Griffin actually tucked his chin and led with his helmet, which I'm pretty sure is also not allowed.  I would argue that both guys could have been called on that play.
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    the watcher reacted to Wideleft in Canadian Politics   
    Excerpts from Bill Redekop's 2014 article (not sure if it's paywalled):
    *It's a long read!
    The closed-door church
    Inside the secretive and strict Plymouth Brethren sect in Manitoba
    The Plymouth Brethren discourage interaction between their followers and outsiders, and the church encompasses all aspects of social and professional life for its members. Critics say it has gone from being a Christian sect to full-blown cult.
    By: Bill Redekop
    Posted: 1:00 AM CDT Saturday, May. 10, 2014
     
     
    STONEWALL — Quietly, and out of earshot of Winnipeg, Stonewall had its own mini "British Invasion" a decade ago.
    Newcomers from England started to descend on this town just north of Winnipeg that has historically been a limestone quarry and agricultural service centre. They bought homes, started businesses, built a church — all the usual stuff.
    Stonewall councillors were pleased their town was chosen by the English-speaking immigrants. Local residents were charmed, as North Americans tend to be, by how the newcomers snapped off their words with British accents.
    But residents soon found there was something different about the newcomers. They didn’t want much to do with the townsfolk. They wouldn’t socialize with them, other than a few words on the street or in a store. It wasn’t long before local people started to regard them as "standoffish," as one Stonewall resident put it.
    In time, the community learned the newcomers were from the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church (PBCC), a religious sect that practises "separateness" from the rest of society. The two-metre-high  iron fence around their church attests to that.
    It’s one of the few physical barriers. Most Plymouth Brethren barriers are social. They won’t eat in the same room as non-members, including in restaurants. Brethren are not even allowed to visit the homes of non-Brethren, or "worldly people." They don’t go to the cinema, the theatre or sporting events.
    Plymouth Brethren are sometimes thought of as a British version of Hutterites, without the colonies. Both are conscientious objectors to military service; neither group votes; both forbid television and radio in their homes. The Brethren forbid computers with anything other than email functions and some business software, and all their computers and programs are purchased from a Brethren-owned company.
    Plymouth Brethren also maintain a dress code, but not one as rustic or obvious as that of Hutterites.
    Brethren women are required to wear ankle-length skirts, long hair and some kind of head covering — it used to be a kerchief but now is often a ribbon. The attire is urban, individualized, and becoming less strict to the point where women are now seen wearing designer clothes with hem lines climbing to knee level.
    PHIL HOSSACK / WINNIPEG FREE PRESS
    A seven-foot-high steel fence surrounds the Plymouth Brethren Meeting Hall in Stonewall.
    Men dress business casual. They keep their hair short and are clean-shaven — not even sideburns are allowed. While that doesn’t sound like it would set the men apart, it does.
    "They are conspicuously well-scrubbed," said a Stonewall resident who has had dealings with the Brethren.
    This "new" Christian sect has actually been in Manitoba since the 1880s. The Stonewall group was only the most recent wave. Plymouth Brethren are also in Winnipeg (Charleswood) and the village of Woodlands, not far from Stonewall in the Interlake.
    It’s a group that shows quite remarkable business acumen. The Plymouth Brethren bought up half of Stonewall’s industrial park upon arrival, and immediately set up a cluster of companies.
    But attempts to learn more about the sect and interview its members showed how it has managed to stay under the radar.
    BRETHREN’S BUSINESS IMPACT
    There are a remarkable number of Brethren-owned family businesses in Manitoba for a religious sect of just 450 members.
    The Free Press counted at least 25 small businesses, and there are undoubtedly more. It’s not clear why members of the Plymouth Brethren Christian Church are so successful in business. That companies can receive interest-free loans through Brethren might be part of the answer.
    Business is a big part of being a Brethren today. Virtually all Brethren work for companies owned by Brethren families. However, PBCC doctrine stipulates that companies stay small.
    Winnipeg companies owned by Brethren members include Acure Medical Equipment, Officescape, and Central Dental Supply Ltd., all owned by John Haldane; Applifast Inc.; Insign Architectural Signage; Chemwest Supply; Van Extras; FRS Group Inc.; Acure Safety; Insta-Foil Specialties; Acculift Airmax Inc; Excel Interiors; Meditek; Western Enivronmental Canada, and NP2 (an advertising agency).
    In Stonewall, Brethren own at least half the industrial park off Highway 67. Like elsewhere, they do not belong to the local chamber of commerce because that is forbidden. Stonewall companies include Accent Group; Mitybilt Products Inc; Paragon Securities; Arrow Specialties; Lakeland Group and Universal Business Team.
    Woodlands-area companies include Northstar Enterprises and Arrow Farmquip, and North American Rail Products Inc. is next door in Argyle.
    Plymouth Brethren don’t believe in a church hierarchy. There is no formally designated church leader, such as a salaried priest or pastor, so when I called recently to request an interview, there was no official spokesperson — and no one who felt comfortable speaking for the group.
    After about a week of phone calls and numerous referrals, two Brethren men finally agreed to be interviewed — then each cancelled as the interviews neared. Both said they were too busy.
    Negotiations continued. Dates were submitted for interviews. I explained my mission was merely to write about a unique immigrant group outside the city, which was entirely true. Upon request, I forwarded a list of questions.
    Despite all the negotiations, I was ultimately turned down. All of this took place over a period of three weeks. Ex-Plymouth Brethren members later told me I was being played; strung along until I tired and perhaps gave up on the story.
    I fared little better making cold calls to businesses run by Plymouth Brethren in Stonewall. Everyone said they were too busy to talk. At the fifth business I visited, Charles Deayton, at Universal Business Team, which provides consulting and training services to businesses, said he had been expecting me. Word had traveled quickly that a Free Press reporter was making the rounds.
    Deayton was candid yet considerate. He basically told me I had the proverbial snowball’s chance in hell of getting an interview with a member of the Plymouth Brethren.
    "We don’t want to be all over the newspaper," he said. A colleague beside him was more curt. "We’re not interested. We’ve got work to do. Thanks for coming."
    All of which is not to imply the Plymouth Brethren here are bad people. They are good and productive community members, most people say. Their businesses have been major contributors to the tax base of Stonewall and provide jobs for many non-Brethren as well as Brethren.
    When I googled Universal Business Team, I learned it has offices in 19 countries, mainly assisting other Brethren businesses. But I also saw Universal Business Team is the subject of criticism from a group called PEEB, People Escaping Exclusive Brethren, or "leavers," as they call themselves. (Exclusive Brethren is another name for the most isolationist branch of Plymouth Brethren, which is the one practising in Manitoba.)
    A website run by the ex-Brethren also popped up: www.wikipeebia.com. It contained lengthy testimonials from leavers and it included a pull-down window listing "confirmed suicides" of former Plymouth Brethren members. That was my first red flag.
    Another red flag was the Plymouth Brethren private school in Stonewall, Sterling North Academy. The grades 3-12 school employs a full complement of certified public-school teachers — but none are Plymouth Brethren. Why would a group that arrived over a hundred years ago not have at least some of its own teachers? There are dozens of Hutterites with university degrees teaching across Manitoba.
    Plymouth Brethren got their name because their first assembly was in the English port town of Plymouth, more famously known as the departure point for the pilgrims who settled in the United States in the early 1600s.
    The Plymouth Brethren formed in 1830 as a breakaway sect from the Anglican church. As so often happens with religious groups, the Brethren thought the main church was becoming too worldly, and set up a doctrine of separation from the world.
    Another core belief among Plymouth Brethren is the "rapture." Some historians believe the concept of rapture was even started by the PBCC and later adopted by evangelical groups in the United States. The rapture is judgment day, when God will supposedly sweep up to heaven only the true believers — there are about 46,000 Plymouth Brethren worldwide — and destroy the rest of the planet’s seven billion people in a great conflagration.
    Edward Pearce Langrell, the first of the Plymouth Brethren to arrive in Manitoba, settled in Woodlands in the 1880s. He was acquainted with John Nelson Darby of Ireland, the founder of the Plymouth Brethren. Langrell became the first principal at Warren Elementary School. Today, there are 15 Langrells in the Woodlands phone directory.
    Plymouth Brethren are now headquartered in Australia, which has about 15,000 members. A similar number resides in Britain, and New Zealand also has a sizeable population. A year ago, six big bus coaches full of Brethren from Australia and New Zealand visited fellow Brethren in Manitoba as part of a cross-country tour.
    Even though Plymouth Brethren have been in Manitoba for well over a century, primarily in Winnipeg (Charleswood) and Woodlands, they have surfaced in news stories in the Winnipeg Free Press only about 10 times. By comparison, the Free Press runs about 10 stories a year on Hutterites.
    One of the stories was about a Brethren protest against having to join unions in Manitoba (1972); another was about members in Vancouver not wanting their children subjected to computers in schools (1990s).
    There were also two curious wire stories out of London, England, dated 1964. The stories concerned then Brethren leader Jim Taylor Jr., who had left London ahead of schedule for the United States amid denunciation from the British Parliament, the British press and even the Methodist Church for breaking up families.
    The stories described the Plymouth Brethren as a "small, very strict, secretive nonconformist sect" that abides by a strict interpretation of this Biblical text: "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers."
    One British MP produced a list of 60 families that he claimed had been split up by the Brethren. A British woman claimed her husband left her after 31 years marriage because she bought a radio and television.
    While the Brethren have always practised separation from the rest of society, they were more mainstream prior to the 1960s. Then, Taylor Jr. started to put his stamp on things. The Brethren have their own pope-like figure, called the Man of God. Taylor Jr. served in that role from 1959-70. He had a predilection for making up rules. It was Taylor Jr. who introduced the hard-line doctrine of separateness, starting with banning members from eating and socializing with non-members.
    The rules included everything from banning men from wearing shorts (thy naked, spindly legs are an abomination, presumably) to who should take out the garbage (that falleth to the husband, naturally).
    One decree from Taylor Jr. was that Brethren farmers could no longer live on the same property as their livestock. Since the Brethren near Woodlands were largely cattle ranchers, the edict triggered a small housing boom there. Brethren farmers to this day must commute to their farms.
    EXCLUSIVE BRETHREN DON’TS
    Appearance
    Don’t cut your hair (female) Don’t have facial hair or long hair (male) Don’t wear shorts (female & male) Don’t wear trousers (female) Don’t wear make-up (female) Don’t wear any other colour of shirt than white on Sunday (male) Don’t smoke, chew tobacco or chew gum At home
    Don’t use or own radios or television Don’t go to the movies, theatres, shows or concerts Don’t eat in a restaurant or go to bars or pubs Don’t own a computer, digital camera, mobile phone, cd player or MP3 player that is not purchased from the EB Don’t read books written by immoral authors, or novels unless they are approved by the EB Don’t own remote-controlled toys or any electronic gaming system Don’t listen to pre-recorded music by non-EB Don’t live on a farm Don’t have in-ground swimming pools at the home Don’t rent or own condos, apartments or a house that is joined at any wall Don’t share sewers or driveways with neighbours Don’t have pets Don’t go to the beach unless it is not crowded Don’t have a heart transplant Don’t watch firework displays In business
    Don’t be employed by non-EB Don’t work in non-EB homes Don’t rent space or anything to non-EB Don’t own shares of non-EB company Don’t go to non-EB schools if there is an EB school in your city Don't belong to a professional association (nurses, lawyers, etc), union, or any other outside organization Don’t sell products that you cannot use (cigarettes, contraception) Don’t stay in a hotel or motel Don’t vote or run for public office Don’t go to university With people
    Don’t have a cup of tea or eat with your non EB neighbours, parents, siblings or children Don’t have friends outside of the EB Don’t kiss or date before marriage Don’t plan to marry unless you have permission Don’t be gay or lesbian Don’t marry outside of the EB, or outside of your race Don’t divorce unless for fornication Don’t use contraception (no matter how many children you have) Don’t have an abortion Don’t be involved in competitive organized sports Don’t visit graves of the deceased often Don’t miss daily church meetings Don’t question EB rules
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    the watcher reacted to Tracker in US Politics   
    For the sane Americans this has to be frightening. There is an an unholy alliance bonded together by fear, hated and intolerance comprised of neo-Nazis, violent anti-abortionists, racists, fundamentalist "Christians", political opportunists and oligarchs who see the movement as a way to increase their influence and profits. 
    If they ever came to power, there would follow almost immediately an internal blood war to determine who led the agenda. Lets hope it never comes to that.
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    the watcher reacted to SpeedFlex27 in US Politics   
    I don't know who this guy is but if texas Governor Greg Abbott & the GOp are forming alliances with The Proud Boys this is serious business. 
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    the watcher reacted to blue_gold_84 in Covid-19   
    That and it doesn't have to be a competition for worst provincial gov't, anyway. I'd rather get flicked in the berries than kicked in the berries, but I'd prefer neither ideally.
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    the watcher reacted to JuranBoldenRules in 2022 CFL Season - Non Back 2 Back Champs News   
    "I'm a big man and I'm not stupid"
    Quote of a small man who is stupid.
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    the watcher reacted to SpeedFlex27 in 2022 CFL Season - Non Back 2 Back Champs News   
    Exactly. I don't see a demand. 
    maybe last season of MLSE owning them. Which may not be a bad thing. 
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    the watcher got a reaction from Zach Schnitzer in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    -Friggen TSN. Breaks away immediatly before the players are off the field for a coverage and breakdown of,a basketball game. Finally return to the CFL, get part way through the game report and stop it for breaking news. The post game talk by the basketball coach. What a joke.
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    the watcher reacted to Tracker in US Politics   
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    the watcher got a reaction from Fred C Dobbs in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    The Bombers looked rusty and the thought has to cross your mind , "  should they have played the vets in the preseason more ? " BUT on the other hand ,how important were those games for Dru Brown ? Did that confidence he showed in that drive to win the game come from his time in preseason ? Bottom line is we racked up a win
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    the watcher got a reaction from EP77 in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    -Friggen TSN. Breaks away immediatly before the players are off the field for a coverage and breakdown of,a basketball game. Finally return to the CFL, get part way through the game report and stop it for breaking news. The post game talk by the basketball coach. What a joke.
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    the watcher got a reaction from ddanger in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    The Bombers looked rusty and the thought has to cross your mind , "  should they have played the vets in the preseason more ? " BUT on the other hand ,how important were those games for Dru Brown ? Did that confidence he showed in that drive to win the game come from his time in preseason ? Bottom line is we racked up a win
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    the watcher got a reaction from rebusrankin in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    The Bombers looked rusty and the thought has to cross your mind , "  should they have played the vets in the preseason more ? " BUT on the other hand ,how important were those games for Dru Brown ? Did that confidence he showed in that drive to win the game come from his time in preseason ? Bottom line is we racked up a win
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    the watcher got a reaction from Blue-urns in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    The Bombers looked rusty and the thought has to cross your mind , "  should they have played the vets in the preseason more ? " BUT on the other hand ,how important were those games for Dru Brown ? Did that confidence he showed in that drive to win the game come from his time in preseason ? Bottom line is we racked up a win
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    the watcher got a reaction from Bigblue204 in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    The Bombers looked rusty and the thought has to cross your mind , "  should they have played the vets in the preseason more ? " BUT on the other hand ,how important were those games for Dru Brown ? Did that confidence he showed in that drive to win the game come from his time in preseason ? Bottom line is we racked up a win
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    the watcher reacted to SpeedFlex27 in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    It is maddening when the announcers show their bias. 
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    the watcher reacted to SpeedFlex27 in Redblacks at Back2Back Champs GDT   
    That PI challenge & his blatant cheering for Ottawa to win that challenge was pathetic. Forde never mentioned the headshot to Schoen which was so obvious. What a serious non call. That could have been a bad head injury as I felt he was targeted. Any high shot like that should be a 15 yard penalty. Schoen was lucky. Hopefully Zach Collaros is okay. 
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