Mike

I guess if you don't like context, it discredits my point. Numbers are just numbers without context. The context of Grigsby's numbers in week 4 is that 37 of his 100 came on plays that Edmonton basically handed to him because they were in prevent defense in the final 25 seconds of a half. So 63 yards. If you want to go further in depth, let's look at what he did with his carries. On first down, he had carries of 4, 3, 6, 7, 1, 1, 4 ... that's 7 first down carries and he's averaging 3.4 yards a carry. He didn't have a single carry over 13 yards. On top of that, if you REALLY want to get technical about it, 11 of his receiving yards were on a play where the blocker actually got called for holding, but there were 23 seconds left in the game and Edmonton just declined the penalty. So there you have it. 100 yards, 3.4 yards a carry on first down and 48 of his 50 receiving yards were gifted to us by Edmonton by prevent defense or declined penalties because they couldn't be bothered - on top of all of that, he was also targeted 11 times as a receiver, hauled in only 5 and his mental error on one of them cost us more points than we scored all game. So yeah. Keep telling me how his performance is not trending downward. Did you factor level of competition into your analysis? I'm sure you'd agree that a better defense (e.g. Edmonton & Montreal vs Ottawa & Toronto) would impact on a running backs average yards per carry and not necessarily mean the player is regressing. I could, but that still doesn't help his case - if you can only put up good numbers against bad teams, that's not a ringing endorsement either. But let's see how other backs did against Edmonton Andrew Harris - 139 yards, 1 TD CJ Gable - 96 yards, 2 TD Chevon Walker - 94 yards, 1 TD Not a lot of garbage yards to be found in their performances either. Numbers aside, I just don't like what I see out of Grigsby when I watch him play. I watch him run hesitantly, he's ducking his pad level way too early in an effort to try and fake out defenders in the open field and he just doesn't seem to have the best hands in the world out of the backfield. He has positives - his ball security is a major plus and unlike some, I don't think he's particularly prone to going down on first contact (although he was during the Edmonton game) - but I just liked the way Cotton runs a lot better.

I guess if you don't like context, it discredits my point. Numbers are just numbers without context. The context of Grigsby's numbers in week 4 is that 37 of his 100 came on plays that Edmonton basically handed to him because they were in prevent defense in the final 25 seconds of a half. So 63 yards. If you want to go further in depth, let's look at what he did with his carries. On first down, he had carries of 4, 3, 6, 7, 1, 1, 4 ... that's 7 first down carries and he's averaging 3.4 yards a carry. He didn't have a single carry over 13 yards. On top of that, if you REALLY want to get technical about it, 11 of his receiving yards were on a play where the blocker actually got called for holding, but there were 23 seconds left in the game and Edmonton just declined the penalty. So there you have it. 100 yards, 3.4 yards a carry on first down and 48 of his 50 receiving yards were gifted to us by Edmonton by prevent defense or declined penalties because they couldn't be bothered - on top of all of that, he was also targeted 11 times as a receiver, hauled in only 5 and his mental error on one of them cost us more points than we scored all game. So yeah. Keep telling me how his performance is not trending downward.

Pretty strange post for a guy who usually calls out other posters for selective stats... Willy Week 1 - 308 yds (70%) Week 2 - 307 yds (64%) Week 3 - 256 yds (63%) Week 4 - 180 yds (52%) Look! He's trending downwards too... we should try Brohm. Greaves injury against Ottawa is the main factor in all of this... that and maybe MB is the one who is trending downwards... we'll see this week. Except I'm not talking about Willy.

Grigsby through the first 3 games Week 1 - 139 yards Week 2 - 112 yards Week 3 - 59 yards He's trending downward and this is a guy that was supposed to be needing the early games to shake the rust off. His week 4 numbers against Edmonton are back up to exactly 100 but nearly a third of those came on one play against prevent defense to end a half. He's not that good. He's not bad, but Cotton was advertised as better and I for one would like to see.

Why? I'm guessing because he thinks Cotton is better.

Nevermind, all aboard the CORNELL HYPE TRAIN!

Cornell as a DT is semantics. He's probably got one scheme on D that calls for him to drop out of the DL into the flats. Seriously. He won't play much on D at all.

Howard and Knapp switching. Interesting.

Damn. I'm in LA next week, really wanted a way to watch it. Then again, I think I'm going to the Dodgers game and that kind of gets in the way. I'll just have to stick to updates on my phone.

I think thats true with the exception of NI reciever. If you have two non import recivers starting there should be better better depth to back them up. I don't see Taylor Renaud or Brett Carter as fouth on the depth chart if there are suposed to be 2 canadian starting. Look around the league. The 4th NI receiver on teams that start 2 Canadians there isn't impressive anywhere. Edmonton's 4th NI receiver is Akeem Foster Toronto has Natey Adjei BC has Kito Poblah Saskatchewan has Scott McHenry or Alex Anthony The only guys who are anything proven are proven to be not very good. The rest, just like Brett Carter, are big question marks.

That's very interesting that people want to cite a lack of depth. If anything, the team has received a great deal of support from their depth up to this point. Guys like JFG, Sherman, Fraser, Grigsby, Jake Thomas ... even Bruce Johnson if you want to really reach a bit. Those guys all started the year as depth. They've played well. No team can go down to 3rd or 4th on the depth chart and suffer no drop off.

Feoli Gudino in, Aaron Kelly out, Moe Leggett in, Johnny Sears out.

"Realistically" and basing things off one performance out of 4 doesn't really compute.

That's not true. If he goes down, then no whistle, then gets up and starts to run again and gets smoked...he is a running back...no penalty! I have no doubt at all their will still be a penalty. You can complain about it, but it will still happen. Yet you don't seem to comprehend why people are frustrated with the refereeing

Bombers too high now

That's a bit of a shock, if he was willing to sit on the practice roster why didn't we keep him here? He's willing to sit on the practice roster because he got upfront money.

Grigsby

He was visiting Winnipeg on a vacation. He's still in college.

The best part of that hurdle is how he double jumps off the guy's helmet. MCGUFFIE HYPE MACHINE ENGAGE

Was just wondering this myself, if Beck starts, we're whooping em. The list of "backup" QBs that we've lost to over the last 20 years is so long I'm not wasting my time trying to think of all of them. We were so thrilled to face a green and inexperienced Travis Lulay. Loss. First ever start for Bo Levi Mitchell? This will be a cakewalk! Loss. Rocky freaking Butler? Hahahahahaha. Loss. Ha, we knocked Anthony Calvillo out of the game! Adrian McPherson? This thing is over! Loss. I'm quitting now before sadness sets in. Don't underestimate or disrespect your opponent. Beat your opponent. Actually thats why I asked. I hope we play Glenn cause I feel we actually have a better chance against him rather then a fresh young moblie QB looking to get noticed! Sounds as though Glenn wasn't too banged up anyways and will make the start Beck is anything but a young mobile QB. He's 32 years old and runs like he's wearing snowshoes.

I can't wait for the first time he hurdles somebody. He's like a real life version of the way I play offense in Madden. Hurdle spam.

McGuffie is probably going to play receiver. It's been a while since he played tailback.

The CFLPA is just as much to blame as the CFL. Suspensions have to be negotiated into the CBA and as you may have noticed, the CFLPA has a long history of not wanting to agree to player suspensions because of the wage loss.

Harris is the key to that offense. Shut him down and you should be okay.

Of course we would be. There's nothing wrong with what Reilly did. I'd expect him to get up if he didn't hear a whistle. The point is there should have been a whistle. This is one of those arguments where you're obviously not going to get it, so we'll just leave it at that.