Tiny759

It’s nice to have an offence that can move the ball in the last two minutes 

McGuire throws a nice ball. Good mechanics and a tight spiral. I’m betting lots of people here would like to see him get some drives to see how he moves the offence

That’s gotta be a flag, but idk about you guys, but seeing Collaros get up gives me a weird feeling of hope lol

McGuire throws a nice ball. Good mechanics and a tight spiral. I’m betting lots of people here would like to see him get some drives to see how he moves the offence

Holy crap this board tonight ! The season isn't over. We are in the playoffs.  We are at the present moment winning the game.

McGuire throws a nice ball. Good mechanics and a tight spiral. I’m betting lots of people here would like to see him get some drives to see how he moves the offence

That’s gotta be a flag, but idk about you guys, but seeing Collaros get up gives me a weird feeling of hope lol

I mean why don’t we look at his win and loss record since he took over in 2016. People tend to forget he has really helped turn this organization around. 

It sucked when we were 7-2. 

Funny, but good on him. Hes trying to stay engaged in the city and franchise and doing some good. 

I’m 2016, he went 26/40, 390 yards and 2 tds, 0 int. Lose the game 32-31. In 2017 he goes 35/48 for 371 yards with 3 tds and 0 int. Lose the game 39-32. To me that seems like pretty good numbers and indicate he was not at all the reason they lost. 

I’m 2016, he went 26/40, 390 yards and 2 tds, 0 int. Lose the game 32-31. In 2017 he goes 35/48 for 371 yards with 3 tds and 0 int. Lose the game 39-32. To me that seems like pretty good numbers and indicate he was not at all the reason they lost. 

I’m 2016, he went 26/40, 390 yards and 2 tds, 0 int. Lose the game 32-31. In 2017 he goes 35/48 for 371 yards with 3 tds and 0 int. Lose the game 39-32. To me that seems like pretty good numbers and indicate he was not at all the reason they lost. 

That is such a ridiculous comment. You say that LaPo did well only because he had great players in 2002 (I believe you said even you could have crafted a great offensive game plan with that talent). So when he does well (like 14 club records on offence in 2002) all the credit goes to the player, not him. But if a player does not do well, it's because LaPo has not "elevated" them, so he gets all the blame. Maybe, just maybe, the "talent" right now is not as earth shattering as some think.
But for the sake of argument, let's look at the talent LaPo has had in the past and now. In 2002, he took an MVP QB and that QB produced even better numbers than the year before and according to Milt Stegall should have won MOP that year too. He took an all-star receiver and got him to the greatest receiving season of that receiver's career and lifted him to MOP status and league records. He took a part-time running back and made him a star in the backfield, and the next year got him his first league rushing title. Also the 2 best receiving years of Roberts' career those 2 seasons.
He went to Saskatchewan and turned Darian Durant into an all-star and got them to the Grey Cup.
He came to Winnipeg and found a way in 2011 to keep Buck Pierce healthy long enough for Buck to have his most productive season ever and get to a Grey Cup. Like with Khari before him, once he lost his effective starting QB due to injury, the lesser talent at back-up hindered him.
Now that he is back, he has "elevated" Andrew Harris into bar none the best running back in the CFL. Harris had zero rushing titles and two 1,000 yard seasons before coming here, will get his 3rd consecutive 1,000 yard year (and second 1,300+ yard year), and his 3rd rushing title, on top of becoming the best receiving running back in CFL history in 2017. He took Matt Nichols and devised a system that minimized his weaknesses (average arm strength, low mobility) and fed off his strengths (passing accuracy, "game manager", low turnover risk) to create the most efficient QB in the CFL this year who had the team #1 in the CFL standings before he got hurt. But you expect the entire playbook to be thrown out to cater to a new QB who does little else but run the ball and hasn't shown he can pass very well rather than expect management to have as a back-up someone who can step into the existing system and execute it to relatively the same degree, like Calgary, Sask, and Hamilton did. And LaPo to a great extent has tweaked that playbook to incorporate more runs and option/pass from his QB. But having a QB who can't throw very well or get into his second or third progressions efficeiently does not seem to have gotten us very far.
So how about you tell us who has suffocated under LaPo only to have their obvious underdeveloped talents shine elsewhere? It is possible, but no one obvious springs to mind for me.

In any league if you stand in the pocket for too long you will get hit. That has nothing to do with being asked to.

In any league if you stand in the pocket for too long you will get hit. That has nothing to do with being asked to.

In today's cfl if you stand in the pocket you're going to get hit and are being asked to.

I'm talking qb skill level throwing wise only between Nichols & Streveler. There's no comparison between the 2. Nichols is far superior throwing the ball & he isn't even Top 5. That's how bad Streveler is.

Well at least we agree on that.

This is a bad take.

Guys .. you should know by now I don’t step in often (I let you sort things out amongst yourselves for the most part) but I’ll ask that we *try* to keep discussion on the game / team and away from each other.
I know it’s hard, I’m as frustrated as anyone, but your help here would be greatly appreciated.

Well first I’m not offended, I just don’t think it right to call out a guy when he’s hurt. Second of all I agree with you that strev is not the guy going forward. But take my comment as you see it

Don’t get hate and criticism mixed up

I agree, at that point in the game, yards needed to be collected through the air. And with Streveler, never mind a hurt Streveler, that’s a hard thing to do. Osheas problem of being too loyal