Deiter Fan

The poor coaching and offence is totally overshadowing the fact that we got fn jobbed hard by the refs, TSN and command center. I watched that Lawler catch over and over with the only replay angle they gave us...and I couldn't see his heel touch the line. Likewise a pass breakup on Demski or Lawler where the DB was way early and they never even gave us a fn replay. All the non-calls for holding (which I know can go both ways) and obvious offsides not called...but the lack of replays on close plays was a real tell that they didn't want us examining the calls.

in all honesty.....I put out the "positive" vibe.....was more a hope....but truly expected this...and figured in playoffs if we were to fail again....would be mainly due to coaching....roster....preparedness...and essentially was that....many guys had poor games...but were they really prepared adequately....and even if they executed whater the game plan was flawlessy...would it have mattered....I dont think so
That being said....6 yrs in a row...and 3 of 6 aint that bad....right?

I don't understand the series that Wilson got when they were trying to stop Collaros' hand from leaking. You don't let your backup QBs throw all season, you have the MOP in the backfield, you get the ball on the 30 with a huge play from Willie after the let down on that punt block, you are down... 17-13 I think at that point so a TD puts you in the lead, and you dial up 4 straight passes, 1 of which should have been picked in the end zone on an underthrow, and another that was a bit of an overthrow. 

And everyone short of O'Shea knew that. There have been rumours that Paddy has been playing on one good leg since training camp, so he might deserve a pass for now. We are past the point where a tuneup is in order- we're looking at a full overhaul, and I doubt if O'Shea will be part of that. He presents as very set in his ways and at his age, very unlikely to change.

I think it is worse than not having trust in the backup QBs- it sure as spit looked like O'Shea was going to go with Collaros come Hell or high water so long as Collaros could drag himself out onto the field. That is consistent with O'Shea's M.O. for the past few seasons.

Bottom line is this team just can’t figure out Toronto, it’s been like that since 2019.

We’ve been outcoached in every single game against them. 

Can’t say for sure. How would it have played out with a healthy Zach after the Willie INT? Touchdown there changes the game 

A healthy Zach loses that game too. The execution and the game plan were both putrid to that point. We could all see it at half time.

We are 12-16 in Grey Cup games (about 43%)
SSK is 4-15 (about 21%) in Grey Cup games

I'm pretty sure any Coach who has team in mind...and puts aside his love/belief that a veteran player no matter how much he thinks is the cats meow isnt cutting it....or is hurt and playing is to the detriment of the team would sit said player....I have never been involved with a coach who didn't
Osh is not that guy...has failed us in this regard time and time again....not seeing it but gloming and clinging to 4 and 5 yrs ago success is laughable...and sad
Dude needs to pull his head out his ass and do the right thing...Imagine if he cleaned some things up...would most likely had 4 cups at minimum and some ungodly regular season record
I think it more some walked away from here as we ...at coaches request wanted to hang on to some of "his guys" instead.....The only changed we made were due to injury, and I can guarantee that If Biggie was an injury that didnt require seson ending surgery Osh would have played him....why wouldn't he...he did before
A Bailey sure would have looked helpful with gritty grimy catches yesterday as a late season add to stick it to the Argo's who dumped him.....A returner who could flip a field and effect how a team kicked to you sure would have been effective...we could have and should have still had both...we chose to go a different route...things gotta change and in a big way
coaches...who win the big games would...and have in the past...we rest on laurels and past greatness until they literaly suck....and as of last few yrs....have nothing in the hopper to replace then with...even if we wanted to
yeah...thats some serious suckage

This game was decided early in Toronto. 

It’s as much the fact that he has long been prone to making bone headed mistakes, drops and fumbles especially at bad times. 
 Yeah he was banged up bad and shouldn’t have kept playing. Our coaches should’ve had a back up for him. He will be back and we will love him next year as soon as he busts a big one. 
 
 
Wilson came in and looked like he had a laser rocket launcher for an arm after zachs tosses. Hes got a good arm and excellent arm talent. But it isn’t that big. Grainger had a bigger arm. I think zach deteriorated that much. 
 I don’t think he’s been 100% at any point this year. But I also don’t know if he ever would be again. And mentally, I think he’s in that broken Roughrider/ticat end era mode. 

Hmmm...definitely a good match for the teams effort today

Even on the 2 deep TD passes to Klaw in the West Final Klaw had to gear down on one and turn around on the other cuz Zach couldn't hit him in stride.

Pierce, gone, Thomas gone, haven’t cared too much for Collaros this year either. Throws short on bombs. Interceptions are on him. 
We have good reasons to be pissed right off. 

we will never know cause Osh will never...ever...EVER change the pace.....or replace an ineffective player....or drop an old vet.....or change his mindset......alter his philosophy....higly doubt evolve....and definitely wont change the smug face he likes at times when questioned....you can take that to the bank
He will tho play his fav's...whether they best option or not....he will use excessive Canadians when he doesn't have to, even if they are not the best available player, or vital to the ratio....and he will every yr roster a guy for no particular reason that has no business being on the roster....and he will in a big game dress a guy or 2 who dont even touch the field...even with injury issues....or lack of performance...Last yr it was BOLO....This yr it was Samson....who's it gonna be next yr?????

I was just about to say, and I pretense this by saying I have a lot of respect for Mr oshea and am forever appreciative,
But when you say in your post game interview that Zach can't grip the ball 
Then what the **** is he doing playing?!?!?! If he can't GRIP the ball then he can't play.
It's either a lie/embellished or it's just absolute madness. Neither Is good

Yeah this year was the turd in the punchbowl, for sure. We certainly got lucky that many other teams were dealing with their own punchbowl problems. They still fought and came out on top but were, unfortunately, exposed in their final games against the East. Can only hope this will be the ultimate wake-up call for the org.

They still won the west and made a 5th straight Grey cup... they still had a top defense throughout the year and even in this game... it's not as dire as all that, some tweaks needed. Move on from some older bodies and bring in some good replacements and you're still a contender.

Toronto built their team in the image of the 2019/21 Bombers. 
We had that and rebuilt it into the 2019/21 Tiger-Cats. 

We spent a **** ton of money on offense and they were wildly inconsistent all season long. Defense was fine, there's some tweaks to see on STs but it's the offense that needs to be better for what they earning. 

I said all week to anyone who listened that Toronto was going to win this, because they always do. This was never in doubt.
I still have full faith in The Trinity to turn this around with a fresh roster and spend every penny on a championship roster for a home GC. 
Bring on 2025 season!

I see this team falling off a cliff if we just keep bringing back the coach's favourite old vets even if they can't play anymore. We could be 4-14 in a couple of seasons.

It's a shame the 3 cup losses overshadow what has been the best 5 years of football this organization has delivered in decades.
Yeah it sucks losing the big one but I've had loads of fun/enjoyment watching this team play the last 5-6 years.
Changes obviously need to be made but I'll be damned if I'm gonna let this loss ruin what was a great come back season for another division title and the overwhelming success we've enjoyed over the last several years.
As someone old enough to remember the entire length of the drought (and no cup for Deiter) the last 5 years have been like a dream.

Hopefully the org will make the needed changes to put us over the hump next year and we take it all at home.
 
 
 

I'm not so dense as to not recognize the ultimate goal is to win the Cup...but...I can't can't consider a season where the fans get to see more wins than losses, get to experience a quality product, have a great time and the team wins their division and makes good money...as a failure even if they don't win the ultimate game.