M.Silverback
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50 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Unless something weird happens where someone that I'm not aware of becomes available, I'd go into next season with the same QBs. If Nichols stays healthy, we keep winning. If Nichols gets hurt again, then Strev gets more reps and eventually takes over....or he doesn't, and he's out. But I'd be fine going into next season the exact same way we did this year, in all facets of the team.
I think Masoli is a free agent. Not sure Hamilton will let him walk. Would you consider him? I think I would, depending on the price.
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35 minutes ago, Noeller said:
Everything we've ever been told has led us to believe that Miller, Walters and Oshea are in lockstep when it comes to team decisions. I really don't believe anyone needed to "pull rank" on anyone else...
True. I'm sure they hash things out and come to some type of consensus or disagree but commit position. I'm guessing that sometimes though arriving at the point of lockstep may be a bit rocky. Perhaps O'Shea lobbies for certain players longer or harder than maybe Miller and Walters, certainly the fans, would like.
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8 minutes ago, BomberBall said:
Wonder which receiver sits with Adams back in the line up - Whitehead or Bailey. My guess O'Shea will sit Bailey. I'd sit Whitehead.
According to a "CFL Insider" quoted in Kirk Penton's weekly column on The Athletic, " I don't know why (the Bombers) haven't played number 88 (Rasheed Bailey) more, but he's a good football player".
Us too CFL Insider! But I guess you have not been introduced to Coach O'Shea.
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3 hours ago, deepsixemtoboyd said:
Loyalty and mediocrity and/or just unbelievably crappy judgment (remember the 62 yard field goal attempt vs 3rd and 4 gamble in playoffs, anyone? and that’s after his kicker told him his very top range in the dome was 56 yards?) over appropriate risk management and the possibility of excellence.
Your post nailed it. To me a pro head coach should demonstrate loyalty to his players by not crapping on them in the media. If a player fumbles, misses a tackle, whatever, as a good pro head coach you don't use that as an excuse to dump on a player publicly. It's a team game, lots of chances to win, he's a key member of our team blah, blah, blah. But, I'd tell all players behind closed doors enjoy every moment of being a pro athlete because it can end very quickly. Injuries, contract issues, or performance. If another player can perform better than you, they will play. Period. Happens to every pro player at some point. At some point some QB will be a better option than Tom Brady. O'Shea seems very reluctant to give that message to players. Makes me wonder what happened with Drew Willy all those years ago. Did Kyle Walters pull rank and tell O'Shea that Willy was done?
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4 minutes ago, BomberBall said:
𝗗𝗮𝗿𝗿𝗶𝗻 𝗕𝗮𝘂𝗺𝗶𝗻𝗴 @DarrinBauming 58m58 minutes ago
Mike O’Shea says Chris Streveler doesn’t need to practice. Streveler is apparently in the building but was not on the field for practice.
Not a big fan of comments like this.
Agree. How about, "Streveler is injured, but we're going to see how much he improves over the next day or so and make a decision." It's like he's implying that what everyone saw (Streveler clearly injured) never happened. Baffling.
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32 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:
I for one am giddy about seeing what collars can do.
It would be a great Bombers type story. Collaros goes on a run, wins against Calgary, wins a playoff game, narrowly loses Western final, then we spend the entire winter debating whether we should pay $600K per year and lose our first round pick to sign a guy with a history of concussion issues based on three games. It's so us!
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17 minutes ago, BomberBall said:
Regardless of who plays QB, can Augustine get some goddamn carries? We may not be unanimous on who we want our QB to be in the playoffs, but I'm pretty sure we all want a healthy Harris.
Amen! I love Harris. But if our offense is going to be run based, why not also use another RB who produced when he was in? The RB platoon approach like many NFL teams use. Keeps Harris fresh. Keeps the defense thinking. Line up both in the back field a few plays. Offset I; split backs. Something!
- Jesse, Mr Dee and blueingreenland
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3 minutes ago, JCon said:
Honestly, this board is so split... It's Nichols' fault, Stevler's fault... MOS's fault... Lapo's fault.... It's everyone fault and it's no one's...
Ultimately, it's Roberts fault for drinking all night and Glenn's for diving for that ball.
Ha! So true. My current fault ranking (which changes daily)
1. O’Shea
2. Lapo
3. Joe Mack
4. Buzz
5. Hall
6. O’Shea again but from 2017 and 2018
- Tracker, rebusrankin and Jesse
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10 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:
What if Collaros comes in and throws for 4 TD's and the offence looks like a high powered well oiled machine? What do you do for the WSF?
Me - Collaros 100%. QB job is wide open as far as I’m concerned as fake head coach. Not hating on Streveler. But if he gets beat out by someone else that’s pro sports. And Collaros was (key word) a legit top tier QB in the CFL. Wouldn’t bet my mortgage on it happening again, but wouldn’t bet on Streveler ever hitting that level
O’Shea - he’d go back to Streveler. “Gives us the best chance to win”
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2 hours ago, Mr Dee said:
Rios has over the top help coming up from Alexander. Having to cover the receiver, and expecting help, he is in position for coverage. Look again, that ball should never have been thrown. There is only one spot, one, that the ball could have been caught..and it was. Hell of a throw and catch.
Yup. That is why BLM gets the $$$. Because having an elite QB is pretty much the most important thing. Something the Bombers haven’t had since ... ?
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“Strev is tough. A real competitor. So when he said he was good to go as long as he could play the game seated on an electric scooter I said put the ball in the front basket and get out there with your teammates.” Mike O’Shea - post game. October 25, 2019
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1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Maybe they were talking PI challenges, the regular ones are slightly below half.
Probably. Makes sense. But a headshot on a QB? Even if he “ducked” (which implies he purposely did so which is nuts)? You’ll never win that challenge.
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3 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:
I know he takes a lot of flak, but man, how on Earth do you throw that challenge flag? That was textbook definition of helmet-to-helmet, will continue to get called every single time. I understand they had nothing to lose...
EXCEPT A TIMEOUT, YOU IDIOTS.
16 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:Would have lost the timeout 30 seconds later at the 3 minute warning anyway. So actually really low risk.
Some NFL writer tweeted the stats for coach’s challenges and coaches win somewhere around 10% of challenges. I can’t remember who but I’ll post if I find it. So basically from an analytics perspective it’s a waste of time
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I used to scoff at people who would post that O’Shea is too much of a player’s coach. But now I wonder. You can’t be a jerk nobody wants to play for, and you shouldn’t throw players under the bus. But, you do have to be able to make personnel decisions even when it may hurt some feelings. He sticks with some players too long, doesn’t play some who perform better than starters (Petermann), and then leaves in an injured Streveler in basically a lost cause because he wanted to go out and compete? How about, sorry Chris you’re done for tonight. For your sake and the team. Thank you, but you’re done. It’s like he doesn’t want to have difficult conversations. That’s your job!
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3 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:
"You" is the term used for the group on here who questioned Nichol's toughness and called him injury prone.
Gotcha. I for one did not question Nichols toughness. He’s had a lot of injuries, and that happens. And surgery to throwing shoulder would worry me as GM. But he’s tough, no question.
People should watch some NFL films mic’ed up footage of Matt Stafford or Andrew Luck. Tough position to play, and tough dudes. They get killed out there
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24 minutes ago, B-F-F-C said:
I thought that one of the things you admired about Streveler and made him so much better than Nichols was that he was "tough" and a warrior. Now you're bitching about O'Shea because he left in his QB. Plus I can't see any scenario where Mike O'Shea would put in a player if the player or training staff said he was too injured to play. You guys know it but aren't willing to admit it.
You guys love to spin things to fit you're personal biases or agendas.
I don’t know if “you” is me or the collective. I don’t recall many posters saying to play Streveler because he’s “tougher” than Nichols. People said play him because he’s a much better athlete and can make things happen running. That’s where he’s better than Nichols. Both are tough. QB’s are the toughest players on any football team without question.
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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
The guy was sprinting up and down the sidelines, yeah he was in pain but he was willing to play through it, if they felt he was going to do more damage they'd never let him do that, so if a guy is hell bent on going in that's his choice.
I believe you. You were there. But when it happened he basically couldn’t put weight on his leg. That’s not a shake it off thing. It’s not like it was half time in the Grey Cup. There were a few minutes left in a game we were likely losing. Let McGuire finish, tell Streveler thank you, and let’s get you healthy for next week
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2 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
I can tell you from sitting on the Bombers side of the field watching the goings on after he got hurt, there was no force on earth that was going to keep him off the field.
Interesting. Thanks for the first hand account. Streveler obviously is a great competitor who would keep playing through anything. But a coach has to think of the overall welfare of the team and the player. Streveler could have been hurt further. Plus, is a significantly injured Streveler better than a healthy McGuire?
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According to Ted Wyman form the Sun. Most of the beat writers said Streveler was really limping. It’s borderline negligence by O’Shea.
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2 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Says a dude who literally just ******* about everything
I have no idea what this means. Enjoy your evening
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4 minutes ago, Goalie said:
You are all snowflakes yup.
Ha! Okay. Like it or not football has moved to no headshots. So you’re dumb as a coach to challenge a clear headshot, whatever the intent was
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Nichols/Streveler - Bombers QB's 2020.
Pro: They are both experienced CFL QB's and can win games in the CFL . One very experienced, the other less so. And as is proven every season, teams need more than one QB. Every starter has and will miss some games. So having two QB's that can truly start is really the smart move.
Con: Neither one is an elite QB in the CFL.
Many questions, but, the big one is do you need an elite QB to win a Grey Cup? Certainly helps. If BLM wins this year provides more evidence to this. But, the only other truly elite QB in the CFL won't be in the playoffs. For the second year in a row.
Another question is salary. If Nichols wants close to elite level money, I'd say you can't do it. If Streveler wants close to mid tier money - Harris, Fajardo - I'd be really hesitant. Especially since you might be able to get Arbuckle or Evans for around the same amount.
Many questions. Which all may be solved when Zach lights it up the next three games and takes to the Grey Cup 😅!!! We can hope, right?