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  1. 3 turds plus crappy honker preseason game 3

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    4 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

    Well if Buck intends to utilise him as a one-trick-pony, he won't stay healthy long and it will be a wasted year of QB development.  Consider it took Dru Brown 3 years to emerge as a viable replacement.

    He does have to walk to line carefully to keep him healthy and not make it so that every time he goes in he is just running. I believe he is working on that as well especially with the 2 QB jet sweep we saw a glimpse of. 

    Lamar jackson and the ravens have done it as well as any team at any level while keeping him reasonably healthy. (86 games over 6 years) The keys to keeping him healthy are 1, strevy needs to know when to stop fighting for yards, and 2, we need to have him throw hand it off and run it so teams can't just run down field every time he comes on. Also, you need to stretch the field in other directions and keep the D honest. To run QB power you have to be spreading the field sideline to sideline, and even more so down field. That way you create big running lanes and leave strevy on DBs not mainly on big body positions. 

  2. 3 turds plus crappy honker preseason game 3

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    16 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    I saw some of that on D to start the game, but their will was killed with the offense doing less than nothing.

    That's what made Grant good. He just caught the ball and went. Hesitate at this level and guys are just going to tee off on you.

    Yup. No hesitation no fear, catch every ball, run down field. 

    8 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

    Pretty disappointed in what Streveler showed last night, cause it was just the same old thing. He demonstrated no sign he's advanced beyond a super-charged version of Prukop pigeon-holed into executing 3 different options of running plays.  His crashing and bashing in 2019 almost ended on the 6 game then and the same thing will happen if he plays that way now, 4 years older.  It may have been nostalgic folly to bring him back especially in a year Zach may decline,  they need to be fully invested in identifying his future replacement.  Delaying that process by another year with Strev. taking up 2nd QB reps could be a critical mistake .  

     

    He didn't by any means run the same stuff. PA power option, option toss, qb sweep, none of that stuff is what we've seen before. He also nearly broke a short yardage play for a long score. They didn't let him throw the ball so we didn't really see any thing, but what he did was a LOT better than what poopkup did here. 

    7 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    He’s running the plays that are being called.  Perhaps concerning is in our last 4 games including pre season. We are 0 and 4. 

    Yup. Go back to the grey cup and we have no wins, and 1 TD pass which was in the pre season, combined.  

  3. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    It's going to be interesting to watch next week in ott. Zachs struggled on the road last year. Despite 4-5 of his home games last year being not great either for yards or picks, his road split was much worse than his home split. His passing yards per game last year on the road are the exact same as his 209 yards last night. Along with a much worse 1.55 tds per game to 1 int per game on the road. 

    Plush the fact we haven't beaten ott or won in ott since week 2 of 2022, where we played them back to back but they played us really hard in both games. With us winning both by a combined 9 points. And a total of just 2 wins in ottawa since week 4 of 2019, an the fact that the ott D will be preparing for us by practicing against Dru Brown who knows what we do inside and out and can run it effectively.  It's going to be an interesting match up for sure. 

    Historically we with zach and back to just with mos bounce back from beat downs really well. But each year we answer the bell of being hammered worse. Some thing is gonna give next week. 

     

     

     

  4. 3 turds plus crappy honker preseason game 3

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    1 hour ago, voodoochylde said:

    I'm going to simply say there's a lot of over-reaction going on but also some very valid and warranted concerns.   

    I think Montreal, at least defensively, is one of those teams we don't match up well with.  Noel Thorpe has done a pretty damn good job of making our "stars" look very pedestrian.  That said, it didn't help that our starting offense didn't play a single rep in the preseason.  That's on our coaching staff and, to a lesser extent, the players for not advocating for themselves. 

    The organization has enjoyed so much success the last half decade that complacency may be setting in - I don't see the hunger or urgency any longer.  Montreal on the other hand looks like they want it.  That goes back to last year and their Grey Cup run.

    Three turds for this one:

    • Zach Collaros - I'm not going to jump on the Zach is cooked bandwagon but last night was a continuation of what we've seen at various points over the last couple of years.  In the game day thread I asked what QB will we see and sadly we got the guy who looks like a deer in headlights.
    • Sergio Castillo - even recognizing that the chipped ball may have played a role in what happened last night, he's paid to do one job and do it well.  I think he would recognize that wasn't his best effort.
    •  Mitchell - another guy I called out in the game day thread and a guy I've never been sold on. He sort of demonstrated why last night but will acknowledge that he's never been asked to return kicks in a game (up here) before last night. 

    Even with some of the defensive struggles last night (which I think largely stems from guys not playing together a whole lot), they did enough to win the game had the offense showed up.  I didn't think BA looked terrible, he's still a physical presence but he doesn't have the range he used to.  WJ was invisible - still has to be accounted for but was hoping for more last night. The secondary, in general, will play better the more they play together and I sort of figured that chemistry and communication would be an issue early.  Overall though, this side of the ball wasn't the issue.

    Three stars:

    • Chris Streveler - guy played with more heart and emotion than anyone else on our offense - he's hungry, he still has the dawg in him, he still has a sense of urgency.
    • Devin Adams - for a guy still playing his way into game shape, he was disruptive and made his presence felt.
    • Terrell Bonds - got tested a few times and was solid, really happy with his addition to the backfield.

    Well put. Also worthy of a star is Cole. Huge pick, couple great STs stops, some really good plays as the sub on D. Dudes a stud. 

    55 minutes ago, Eternal optimist said:

    On the bright side there was a safety off a missed field goal. Gotta say, never seen that before.

    Ive seen it a couple times, never seen a guy keep his job after doing it though. 

    1 hour ago, 17to85 said:

    Forget the fumble, Mitchell just seemed totally unaware of how to actually track the ball after it left the punters foot and was scrambling to get to the right part of the field.

    Yep. He was really off a few times. He also hesitates every single time he gets close to the first point of contact. That's when you need to be hitting it hard. 

  5. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    5 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

    This is a very small part of the game last night, and there are many more important things to complain about, but on a couple of runs by Streveler he faked the pitch to Brady before taking off.  Nothing against that play specifically, but shouldn’t we actually run a RB toss play during the game to make a fake toss more effective?  I might have missed it, but I don’t recall a single one.

    Thats true, part of it is also that he was faking the pitch too early. His feet are still when he fakes the pitch, so even if the D freezes, he doesn't actually gain any thing. If you take a few steps, you can see the pursuit angle and actually make a read, if you have the angle then you fake and you freeze the D while you accelerate with a speed cut ideally. I suspect that is some thing we will iron out with time. 

    12 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Last time we beat Montreal the score was like 47 17. The last 2 times we played them the combined bombers scored in 2 games is 36. Perhaps Montreal has figured us out. Thorpe has figured out buck and our O. Prior to that i see a 17 to 3 win also. Since then tho. It’s 2 0 Montreal. 

    Thorpe is a good DC. That said, Tor also exposed us in the previous GC. It'll be interesting to see how we play the riders this year. 

  6. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    11 minutes ago, JCon said:

    I totally get that. Totally. And, over the past couple of years we've gone to the GC, put up 1,000 yard receivers and BO has run up and down. But, I still wonder why we don't hang 40 to 50 points on our opponents each week? Why are we always (except last night) putting up 20 to 30. I'm not well versed enough in offensive design to understand what he's trying to do, so I am genuinely asking. 

    It's too bad we don't have a backup QB that could come in when it's clear that Collaros is in February form. :35_thinking: 

    Our offence is feast or famine in terms of passing and passing tds. We have the odd game where teams don't adjust and we score on every drive. But mostly, when we put up a lot of points, it's the first few drives going for scores. We pad a 2-3 TD lead in the first quarter then the other team adjusts and we struggle. 

    It is hard to consistently drive and score in football. Following up a 50 spot the next week is extremely hard. you'll see the dolphins in the NFL do the exact same thing. Be un stoppable one week then can't stop tripping them self up another. To an extent, offenses ebb and flow like that. Great OCs adjust well in game. Buck isn't there right now. Hes still really young for an OC and might get there. 

     In general buck is really strong at prepping a game plan. When his prepped game plan doesn't work, or teams adjust, he doesn't have progressions set up to cover those situations with out whole sale changing what we are doing. 

    A few examples. A game vs edm last year we rocked quick wr screens early. Pushed a lot of yards, but didn't convert. Edm adjusted to the screen and we floundered. Never went back to it, never ran concepts that built off it. Screen and go, jet counter off a jail break screen etc. We run virtually any play from any formation we run, but we don't mix concepts or use concepts to set up multiple looks. Lawler has feasted on a 20 yard out with zach. But we don't include that route on concepts that feature the strengths of schoen. We don't play guys off each other well to force the D into a bad spot.

     Zach in general struggles with check downs. He tends to be dead locked on his first read. previously, when that wouldn't work he'd get pressure, escape and dalton schoen has made a career of coming back to the ball to bail out the play. That, was basically our 2nd option on a lot of pass plays the last 2 years. But teams are aware of that now. They aren't letting dalton slip away any more. 

    So if we either THUMP teams early with a great game plan and great first looks, or we struggle and continue to struggle. 

  7. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    24 minutes ago, 3rdand1.5 said:

    My 2 cents after sleeping on it and watching it again.

     

    -Zach was bad...no sugar coating, he was bad

    -Lawler injury appears to be his arm/hand getting caught under the defender and bending/rolling badly...he grabbed it and went off pretty quickly

    -Say what you want but Oliveria is hurt, he didn't have burst...he is injured, and I will die on that hill

    -Ford did not play good enough, perhaps Mc Ghee is better? But unless Ford really improves his starting days are numbered IMO

    -It appears the "chip" affected Castillo

    -Mitchel needs to show more on returns

    -Another damn punt out of bounds.....not good enough

    -Demski seemed off, I question if he is actually injured

    -The ankle twist on Streveler should be a minimum 1 game suspension, the replay clearly showed intent to injure

    -The face mask call on us was a bad call

     

    You poor soul, The only people who should be subjected to re watching that mess are the coaches and players involved. 

    I don't think brady is hurt, might've had to get used to game speed. What I saw was our OL not creating gaps. He wasn't decisive enough early, but did just start taking it and mashing a read after a quarter or so. 

    Much of that side struggled with executing the coverage. Not a ford issue. He can play. Needs some coaching and more experience. Remember that was his 2nd ever start at db as a pro. The first was in the last game of a season.

    I agree that stupidfield should get suspended for intent to injure. any where 1-4 games would be good. Personally, I would go 3-4 on any attempt to injure. I doubt itll happen though. He will likely get a fine. I think Habba might get one for thumping cody in the head. the ball was out quick, but still you cant do that. 

    Agree on the facemask. Cody dipped his chin with contact and it made it look like it was grabbed. It wasn't. 

  8. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    50 minutes ago, Stickem said:

    Rusty Collaros showed up.....and the rest of the gang didn't fare much better....Time to file this one and move on quick....We know this club is better than what was unvailed last night.....HOWEVER IF the game in Ottawa resembles this abysmal failure......houston we have a problem......I don't know who masterminded the 'come in cold and expect a miracle' trick.....that doesn't work......Everything was out of sync and apparently spread into Castillo's game.....A start at home to forget ...I hope Streve is okay to go next game ....that bull$hit of playing Mr. Twister with his leg by Stubblejumper should be a fine and a game suspension by the league and while they're at it enforce a suspension on the Bettenator for his illegal CFL habit of betting on games

     

    37 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

    fucking-embarrassing-coach.gif

    Had a good chat with Wade yesterday at the pre-game tail gate.  He's aware.

    Honestly, I don't think they should move on quickly from this one. They normally do, but in this case, I think they should stew in it. Because it is an embarrassment, at home, in the home and league opener, in a grey cup rematch where we did the same thing. We have to get back to the point that if a team punches us in the mouth during a game, we answer right away. Not the following week. 

    33 minutes ago, IC Khari said:

    Was Lofton a detriment last night or was he OK? Never really noticed. I know there were a few coverage sacks but I thought overall Oline wasn’t as big of an issue as many had thought it might be. Montreal may be the best D in the league so that’s a positive …

    He gave up a bad pressure. He struggled with the overload, and with pick ups. He wasn't terrible. He wasn't tipping the play again. He can keep his man in front of him, if the guy tries to bull rush him. He is not much better than yoshi last year at dealing with speed off the edge. He doesn't have a big push in the run game either. He's a guard, playing tackle. It's a decent downgrade in the run game. Kola was worse, neuf had 2 whiffs but both were more about assignment pick ups. One with Kola one with Lofton. The one with kola though, was more on kola than him. But normally neuf picks those up in that situation. Dobson was good, couple nice run plays, did his job in pass pro. Big stan was big stan. 

    The asymmetrical overloads, with drops and delays was really effective from montreal. They have been good at creating pressure and disguising looks for a while now. Though all through the pre season we struggled when teams sent extra men to one side or the other. We did have a lot of guys subbing and dumpsterfire quality QBing mostly. But the pattern continues. We saw similar last year that we struggled to deal with speed off the edge. We've gotten away from having Wrs chip, moving the pocket and using roll outs to counter the D.

     

  9. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    50 minutes ago, Goalie said:

    Reading that chipped ball article makes me wonder what the **** are they thinking. USFL got rid of it in 2 weeks plus u took this idea from the USFL. What the ****. 


    id think prob not as much as we all hope. I hope it’s rust and perhaps not playing against cuts in a vanilla pre season game but part of me is feeling it’s not rust and it’s just 35 36 yr old Zach now. Fajardo 32 33. That kinda might be the reason. Those 3 4 years difference. Zach has not looked good the last 2 times against Montreal. Zach is at the point where it could be Father Time and that’s not a thought ppl probably want to entertain. It’s easier to blame the coaches.  But the reality is Zach was the one out there sucking. You’d think they might recognize his struggles and bench him but even last year he basically had to be injured to be pulled. 

    He certainly looked his advanced age the couple of times he scrambled and the one time he ran. Even going back to last year he will start to scramble or run and it looks like he expects to hit another gear or two that just aren't there. I don't think he has any more of that famous escape roll out double back end zone td pass to darvin adams, not in live fire games. 

     I worry some of what we've seen goes deeper than age, or rust. Zach locking into one target, not checking down missing wide open guys, especially when he's under pressure of any sort. Big game, ol struggles, blitzes, great game plan by the other DC etc. I worry that zach has always been the same guy we saw in ssk, and in the end at Hamilton. but the team around him was soo good especially in end 19/ 21 etc that we could cover. We didnt need him to throw us to wins, every game. 

    The underthrown balls, especially short to medium range, the missed reads, not picking up guys dropping, not checking down all that stuff isn't age. That's where the big struggle is. We've seen qb who have been far more reliant on their athleticism play to old age before. 

    1 hour ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

    They were 100% attacking zone at some points.  On several plays that went for first downs Ford just dropped into his deep third and watched the rest of the play happen in front of him.  We don't know what their keys are, but I assume they don't want guys to drop right out like that when the route from the slot is in breaking in a 3 man route.  At that point in any Cover 3 I've been a part of the corner is reading deep outside breaking route (none) and down to the wideout, not keep giving up depth for no reason.  The half has to cover that route to the safety and the SAM would trail the inside slot/tight end either way.

    It was basically a free first down once they ran it a couple times and realized Ford was lost.  Then they just played with his eyes all night, short and deep.  Get him worried about smoke screens, run the setup to give that look and go over top of him.

    Hopefully comes back with lessons learned from this experience because he hasn't played much actual football since he left U Sports.

    It also happens frequently that the HCF zone would be covered by a lber in cover 3. Montreal seemed to pick up on this mistake on our end and roll the 3rd slot over to fords side leaving the sam there, which likely is supposed to adjust that call. Could be clarified with a re watch, but honestly I have no appetite to rewatch that game. Holm missing some cover 3 deep assignments tells me it's communication and implementation. BA seemed to be trying to straighten it out a couple times, but we was being pulled to the box on some of those plays as well. JY has some work to do, but I think we have the right guys. We should not be playing 2 canadian dbs at the same time nearly soo much though. Wish they worked bridges in more. 

     

    41 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

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    I agree with everything about Zach. I also think MOS has made some stubborn, overly loyal and quite frankly stupid decisions over the last 2 years. 
    Both carry blame for what we saw last night. 

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    Wilson is close to Jake Thomas territory now. It’s a shame we cut the 22 year old LB making plays all over the place in preseason.

    I wouldn't be surprised if we see atleast 1 of the imp lbers from this camp brought back at some point. 

     

    33 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

    No they didn't.  The NFL has been using microchips in their balls since about 2017 - the difference is the size of the chip.  The NFL chip is about the size of a thumbnail while the USFL chip (and presumably the CFL too if it's causing this issue) is about the size of a golf ball. AFAIK, the data collected isn't really kicking related so a simple solution might be to have a separate set of regular balls for kicking plays & save the chipped ones for everything else. 

    The chips been around a while in the nfl for sure. I haven't heard of any issues on their end in a long time. Is the Optical tracking the NFL did in the preseason and that will likely replace the chain gang at some point, capable of collecting the same data? 

    I know price wise the CFL will be a good bit away from having that installed in every stadium, but I think we will benefit in a HUGE way when that tech becomes standard up here. Spots up here are insanely bad with sickening consistency. And I will admit, getting an accurate spot on some plays is insanely hard, especially in short yardage. 

    18 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

    Pretty damn windy last night.  ZC has regularly struggled with that playing with any ball and our offense has never really done a great job of making the adjustments for it.  Kind of downfield or nothing.

    QFT

    18 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    I don't agree with that at all, plenty of people calling out collaros. But you can't deny that the whole group was out of sync last night.

    I think both are right, and that we won't really know how much is skill degradation, how much is rust, and how much is league adjustments/closing of the talent gap between us and the rest of the league, for a couple more weeks.  Edit; or the wind factor like JBR said. 

    Things did improve a bit in the 2nd half, but still was far from pretty. 

  10. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    9 hours ago, 17to85 said:

    Ford had some ups and downs but I suspect time will be very kind to him as the year goes on. Defense was mostly pretty solid until the end when they just gave up because it was clear the offense was never going to to anything to get back into it. 

    Mitchell had a nice opening return then fumbled and just completely went walkabout for the rest of the game. If you do one thing as a returner just field the kick cleanly, he couldn't even get under the kicks as the game went on. Fail.

    Offense... what a load of crap. 

     

    Better to be punched in the mouth now than when it's too late. 

    The bombers did a good job of bouncing back the game after getting slapped last year, but boy they did not do a good job of responding in game while being hit in the mouth. And that continued last night. 

    4 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

    For all the hand wringing on the depth chart....

    Wilson played MLB.  Gauthier barely played D.  Wilson was godawful and got burned by Fajardo scrambles multiple times.  A couple times it was hard to understand what he saw but I have to believe he was worried about abandoning coverage to track Fajardo...but at least a couple time Fajardo was already over the line.

    Karamoko took the most snaps at WIL....the guy listed as 3rd on the depth chart.  Cole took some at both WIL and SAM, played about 3/4 snaps.

    Almost half of Fajardo's of passes were targeted at Ford.  So Montreal really liked that matchup.  Which is not a typical one to attack with a pop gun arm QB to the field.  And almost half of their total offense and two TD's came from those targets.  Expect that to be attacked by everyone until there's a change or Ford turns it around.  Athleticism counts for nil if you're watching the ball/covering turf and standing on flat feet.

    Thing is, Ayers didn't get snaps. Cole took less than 3/4 especially in the first half, but did get a solid half plus of them. Jake ate a ton of the reps. Both wilson and our wil combos got washed out in the line, especially when jake was on the nose. 

    3 minutes ago, Booch said:

    To be honest...yeah they went to Ford's side of the field...but also were targeting the scheme and HB there..I know I am not a huge fan of Holm but he made a couple glaring errors which cost us...2 of which come to mind where people assume Ford was the issue...and he wasnt

    Yep, All 3 of ba, holm, and ford seemed up prepared and un able to adjust or fix it in game. It was a lot of cover 3 with ford being the flat defender. Ford had one bust, holm had 2 by my count, but all in all I'm optimistic the secondary will sort out really well with the guys we have. 

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    9 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

    I thought Haba was pretty good, lots of good pressure that killed plays for the Als.  Jefferson plays really shitty against any QB who has an inkling to leave the pocket, like Fajardo.  And last night was just another example of that.  Very undisciplined on rush, doesn't finish plays.  Over pursues and leaves that lane for the QB to escape.

    Needs a major come to football Jesus moment in terms of realizing what he needs to do to make this team better.  And it's not chase his own numbers, yell at the stat man when you're down 3 TD's that you tipped a ball.  He's the leader now.  He's 33.  Not 23.  Time to walk the walk and not be a complete clown.

    Agree, habba looked better than last year. He was much more consistent that willy. 

    2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

    I think he's let a group take over for sure.  There's kind of a "do no wrong" crew.  I think it was ok when they were at their peak and could self-regulate with the right voices.  We've lost a lot of those voices though.  Personalities like Lawler and Jefferson aren't fit to be those guys, can't lead by example so their words are pretty hollow when the cards are on the table.

    I agree that there's quite a mess they'll have to manage pretty quick.  O'Shea wants the players to run the room but this group needs more from him until they are (maybe) ready for that.

    Didn't help having 96 guys in camp as of 6 days ago either.  This team needs to find an identity and mesh.  They've had two practices.

     

    Thats a great point. I wonder how much of this rusty, under prepared, slack ass start was the crappy planned and executed end of TC and beginning of the season. 

     

    IF they don't come out playing next week like their pants are on fire, it's going to be real bad news. 

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    10 hours ago, Super Duper Negatron said:

    Zach showed signs of this many times last year. And Buck showed signs of not doing him any favours.

    100%. It has increased in frequency each year. And zachs play off performances have been very consistent in not being good. 

    10 hours ago, Noeller said:

    Seriously worried that we kept the wrong QB. I'm debating whether this is the worst game I've seen in this stadium. It's this or vs Argos Frito Ray 2014 for worst game I've personally seen at Fort Hew.

    Oh man I was at that argos game it was horrribad. Worried about the same. It's going to be really interesting to see how brown does. 

     

    9 hours ago, M.O.A.B. said:

    1. O - Zach, Brady and Nick - all are not ready

    2. D - Ford needs a lot of learning fast, other teams will be looking to attack him. 

    3. ST - Sergio seems he doesn't care of the misses. 

     

     

    Brady played well. Early gaps weren't there especially but he made chicken scratch into chicken salad a few times. Needed more touches but hard to do when you keep throwing into the dirt on 2nd down. 

    9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    I thought our corners played pretty darned well. They have talent. They just lack experience. 

    Yeah I'm not worried about the secondary. Couple misses on who had deep cover, but that will get sorted. 

     

    8 hours ago, Jets said:

    Hubris is exactly the word for that one.  Years of "player x doesnt need to practice" "player y is a pro, he doesnt need reps in the pre-season"  "we dont need to use that rule, and we can start 8-9-10 canadians because we're so great" has finally come home to roost...hard.  

    I hope this isn't the beginning of the end, but its starting to look like "just one more year" of running it back without any competition or contingency for the aging out of veterans has finally come back to bite us.  It could be a long season - I hope I'm wrong, but I'm worried.

    Nailed it. 

     

    2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    Roster management is terrible. Starting ten Canadians was ludicrous. Is there some kind of participation award for being big heroes??? Oh yeah, we get a supplementary draft pick. Big deal. 

    Yep. And this game should be the death of any, oh the starters don't matter! conversation. I'm good with playing for the pick but you don't need to win by 100 roster useages, you just need to be top 2. Starting 8 for most of the year would be fine. Could pad in the back end of the year if you are good too. 

    2 hours ago, Mike said:

    To be fair we didn’t really start ten. The lineup said we were going to, but we didn’t.

    Jake Thomas played far too much though

    Jake was taking series off mid way through the first quarter then all of a sudden it's he's out for every damn series lol. He played the most snaps of any DL. Gauthier kept getting shuffled off, but not for an IMP. Karamoko got more snaps than bridges and ayers combined. 

     

     

    1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    Some guys should be told it's time to move on but Jake is a coach's favourite. Is starting 10 a failure to recruit or a tribute to the depth to the Canadians we have? I'm thinking it's the latter. To me, that's a huge concern. When MOS thinks the Canadian backups are better than the Americans they have brought in that's a scary thought. Gauthier is a prime example. Our HC will go over Niagra Falls believing he's better by playing him over any American while Biggie is out. 

    I do have to say, jake didn't play terribly over all. He looks down some weight. Not nearly as sloppy as last year. 

    BUT, he can not be the guy playing the nose, and needs to be used sparingly. Let the imps play the nose, and let fatboi Gap rush. 

     

    1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

    I demand a recount

    Rebusrankin

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  13. GDT Can the Bombers D shutdown the Als?

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    14 minutes ago, Booch said:

    2 bs cup loses that were totally avoidable...and penchant for more of the same do...open yer peepers bud...no body saying be fired from this loss...but if the same stuff continues.....all good coaches eventually do

    Doesn’t matter what happens this year. Those people are gonna say the same thing. He could cut all our players and bring in the riffles lose by 80 every week. 

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