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29 minutes ago, Goalie said:
NHL had the lowest finals ratings in the last several years. Not sure they the one you want to be copying.
The nhl season and post season is egregiously long. I feel like they always taper down into the finals. But again not a hockey guy.
The presentation, pre game, none game related coverage (trade deadline, draft, free agency) is very much what I think the cfl needs.
the current presentation is more like a cheap Canadian sitcom about people the announcers working an ESPN the ocho type sport.
In my experience, the NHLs presentation doesn’t confuse selling the steak with selling sizzle.
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32 minutes ago, blue85gold said:
https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/06/29/need-to-know-week-5-2/
Unleash Adams as the punter!
FYI: WR Nic Demski, who had two TDs last week and now has four on the season, was suited up on Sunday but limited… P Jamieson Sheahan was in attendance, but did not handle any punting chores. Sergio Castillo and defensive tackle Devin Adams — who punted in college — took turns punting… DB Ethan Ball, who injured his hand during training camp, was back practising for the first time on Sunday.
Adam’s is a sick athlete. I could see teaching him to kick off, in college he was booming balls with a janky half extension on his leg. Idk if he has the flexibility to be an actual punter, though he has the explosive power in his leg.
I dig using practice to develop modular depth. Idk why Castillo hasn’t been our full time punter, he’s a damn good punter.
12 minutes ago, Booch said:or has pics of Osh in some kind of enbrace with someone or something??...lol
man he's awesome eh....particularly on the plays where he gets spun around and engaged with his back to play....just killer work!
do we see a week without Thomas and punter guy on the game day?...!?!?!...dare we dream?
I don’t dare to dream that. Jake apparently has a cold or some thing. I bet he plays even if he has a fever of 103 and no matter how bad he plays mos would sing his praises.
The triple Canadian front is soo bad. Idk why we bother. Lawson + adams inside has been soo disruptive.
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2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:
Montreal has a rich owner as well.
They do, but not one willing to eat losses, buy fans, improve the stadium/invest seriously in the team. Hamilton and bc have owners with deep pockets and real passion for the team and league. That’s the difference.
The old Olympic stadium is going through a massive rebuild that’s going to turn the stadium back into a top notice facility. But the ALs aren’t involved or seemingly even interested.
1 hour ago, Super Duper Negatron said:Bombers have an advantage in that about 1/3 of attendees don't even watch the game. My niece couldn't name a player other than Willie Jefferson but goes to 5 games a year.
It’s true, the vibe at the rum hut is next level. I’ve got a couple cousins who never cared for any sports and both love going to games and hanging out at the rum hut. Ones become a pretty good bomber fan.
They could legit sell 5-10k standing only tickets in the concourse area and still fill the seats.
My uncle was never more than a casual tv fan when times were good. He’s had season tickets the last few years now. And was getting 5 packs back to 18. The game day experience in the stadium is phenomenal. And yes, being a great team helps too.
49 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:Depends what the viewer numbers are, if they can increase the viewers of broadcast and streaming services, they could potentially make more revenue through other venues. Somehow league revenues have gone up, when game attendance appears to have fallen off a cliff.
They would have to completely flip the value proposition of the league to do that. Which would be a gigantic change, for what in the end would leave us in a similar financial situation.
Don’t get me wrong, we desperately need to grow the streaming and tv side of the market and that’s the future. But the league is a gate driven gate dependant entity. And the viewership product is miles away from being where it would need to be.
Imo is mostly smoke and mirrors from short term windfalls. Like the modest epsn us tv deal.
To take the next step the league needs tsn to create what the nhl has on tv. (Atleast last I saw and perceive, I don’t watch hockey) the CFL is in a position where if it isn’t growing, it’s dying.
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2 hours ago, kelownabomberfan said:
Elks are in big trouble.
Most of the league is either in trouble or right in the verge of being in trouble. Ham and bc are ok because their owners can eat it / buy fans and won’t sweat losses. We are rock solid of course.
The rest, at best treading water.
Even at that, if bc/ham had a sudden ownership turnover they’d be in serious trouble quickly.
For us, we obviously have deep coffers now. And a strong fan base. But we did at the turn of the 90s to. If we had an extended competitive collapse, the eventual fan base exodus would be a massive problem for the league. The riders are half way down the toilet already. If the top draws in the league barely got 20k the tsn deal would plummet and total gate average would be serious trouble.
The league is at a crossroads. New tsn deal soon, bunch of teams on the fringe, already failed to capitalize on a younger generation the new commish has his work cut out for him, and the board.
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47 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:
Fun fact at this point last year I was considering slitting my wrists...lol...jk but man the start last year was awful. Glad we got it together finally.
Last years start and first 1/3 was brutal.
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18 minutes ago, BBlink said:
We can beat Calgary without BO. I like the idea of splitting reps or even just making BO the backup. Bring Vanterpool back on and let Peterson roll.
I could go either way on vanterpool. Be nice to have him back, but I think we could use that roster flexibility else where too.
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1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:
For sure, but then you have guys complaining more about short weeks between games.
There is no perfect schedule with 9 teams.
Never a perfect schedule when a bunch of teams like Toronto are dead last in terms of scheduling importance at their own venue.
we don’t need a perfect schedule. We need a reasonably competent one though. Where top divisional rivals season series isn’t wrapped up 3 weeks into the season.
52 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:I just don’t understand the anti CFL dudes, guys love the NFL and that’s understandable but these same guys are watching NCAA on saturdays, where our players were all super stars or at the very least stars, the talent is great in the CFL, the reason these guys are misses have to do with either coming from smaller schools or they just don’t fit the height and weight criteria the NFL loves looking at. I’m a big NFL guy but I’d watch the Bombers over an NFL game any day of the week.
the gap in terms of excitement and entertainment value has closed dramatically in the past 10-15 years. While the talent level is plateaued, and coaching tapered off hard.
1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:Just don't rush Brady back. Make sure he's 100% healthy.
Yep. I’d be good with a 50/50 split of touches for Brady and Peterson in the first week or two as well. Ease Brady back into it. Getting banged up early in the year can be really tough to bounce back from.
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2 hours ago, blue85gold said:
I’m not sure Cooley has shown enough to warrant a 3rd RB on the roster.
We are too banged up right now. To many guys playing hurt and depth is ravaged. We didn’t use Cooley as much as I’d a liked and he showed really well. But if Brady is good to go, we need roster depth else where.
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Fun fact Zach has as many passing tds, and more total tds after 2 starts than after 9 starts last year.
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21 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:
I like how the CFL coaching staff has been evolving, players become assistants, than coordinators before moving on to HC roles and most are fairly young, done with the stodgy old NFL retreads of decades past.
I’m not talking nfl retreads, realistically that isn’t likely no matter what with the cap even if it went up.
I’m talking young minds from down south. The cfl is so far behind the 3/4 levels of us football in innovation now it’s really sad.
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7 minutes ago, Mark H. said:
Context? Would you hire guys who were HCs at lower levels? NCAA? CIS?
I think we do need more coaches from out side the cfl ecosystem.
I’d particularly look at cos and position coaches to fill the same roles up here. I would also give more chances to cis guys and try to strengthen the coaching pipeline up here. Instead of mostly relying on ex players to join current cfl coaches and maintain the status quo.
in general, we need larger coaching staffs though. More scouting in league and down south, more position coaches, more quality control, film, and analytics/stats roles.
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1 minute ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
Imagine the interior with a Lawson/Woods/Adams rotation. They need a Canadian in the back 8 (Shay, Kelly or whoever) at some point, the 2 jobbers aren’t going to cut it at DT all year.
The dream. I think lber is going to be the big future default Canadian spot on D. It’s all turning to pressure and or drop D. We will continue to see some ratio breaking ni pass rushers and dbs but I can see a lot of teams going to Canadians for run stoppers and shallow to moderate depth zones.
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1 hour ago, Super Duper Negatron said:
If I am the commissioner I am paying a bunch of influencers (barf) from the struggling cities and flying them to games in Saskatchewan and Winnipeg for them to post about and stream from.
Idk what I’d do for popularity. But if I was the commish, I’d increase the coaching cap by atleast 40-50% at nearly any cost. Coaching cap is strangling the crap out of this league.
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16 minutes ago, deepsixemtoboyd said:
While I agree with you that that is the standard they laid out a few years ago, it actually did not make sense to me at the time and still doesn’t. And while I get that in general you’d like to see them make the call in a minute or less, I do feel like what makes the CFL bush is when they have a knee-jerk reaction and say as they did a few years ago, “all calls need to be determined in one quick look at game speed“.
I mean, how stupid is that? what is the purpose of replay if you can’t look at it more than once and slow it down?
I think there is a balance to strike: be as efficient as possible but also accept that there are going to be times where they need to take their time to get it right. I certainly would not want the bombers to lose a game where the other team “picked it off“, but they actually didn’t.
So, in sum: look at it more than once if you need to, be as efficient as possible, and truly hold yourself to the standard that the evidence needs to be irrefutable to overturn what was called on the field.
but I do acknowledge your legitimate frustration when they say they’re going to do one thing and then do another.
I don't think it needs to be a minute, but it should be a very consistent review process, play to play, game to game. Give teams a challenge per time-out, and make the stoppages a time-out length. I don't think the booth should be stopping play unless it is related to player safety.
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7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
Even with Harris, I'm taking the Lions to win.
No harris, no Rourke, that game is gonna be a real thriller lol
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7 minutes ago, Booch said:
so...have you been in the discussion where Osh said...yeah...I know you guys would prefer J.Jones but I gonna roll with T.jones?....I didnt realize that.....you're right I guess...
some people dont get it....first place is a win to them...Osh does no wrong...as a former player first place is a big whoopdydo if you fail in the big game....especially 3 yrs running
ok....desrcibe the holes on 3 key players on defence, since they all have em.....pick any 3....go
Legit, I don't think Deatrick Nichols has a hole in his game. Most players who are extreme outliers have holes in their game. Holm is a good example, though he has grown a lot. Especially if you are a db, if you have a big gap in your game people are going to exploit the crap out of you. Football is too dependent on 1-on-1s to be able to get by being heavily flawed. That's why we see so many teams play a nose or cross the face of Kola now. Why teams read WJ, etc.
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9 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
Jones balled out last night. If your biggest complaint about TJ is that our MIKE is not great in pass cover then I think you guys are really reaching.
No, no, he's bad. He is never in a position to even provide a Pylons contribution in coverage.
Also, it's 2025 in the CFL. Both Wil and Mac are in the same role now, and defending the pass is always significantly more important in the CFL. What other team in the league runs to win games?
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1 minute ago, Goalie said:
I think it comes down to they could go 18 and 0. Win the cup but some of you will say but they didn’t do it my way. We all know they ain’t perfect but sounding like broken records solves nothing either. It just becomes repetitive stuff and you’re kind of one of these yeah but they didn’t do it my way people so ya know, 3 and 0. Yeah but… 4 and 0… yeah but…
It's almost like we keep repeating the same mistakes that cost us the last 3 GCs. If you're happy to be in the play-off race, and happy we're on the 2 GCS, that's great for you. But expecting improvement and accountability for those losses isn't wrong. You can argue how long the honeymoon period should be after a championship, but 4th year post-ship is well past it. Arguably, losing in 3 gcs after reduces that time. Especially in the way we did.
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1 minute ago, GCn20 said:
Tony Jones and Zach Collaros were both great last night. Eat your crow like a man.
Jones was terrible in coverage. His instincts and ability to scrape to the ball and the play are tremendous in the run game. But he's out on an island watching everything happen in coverage ,then trying to help tackle.
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3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:
I think Tony Jones and Zach Collaros just force fed some posters around here a big old helping of crow
Zach's play cost us a GC, and he's been so putrid in the GCs and playoffs; he has a long way to go before that.
He did give me a ton of hope again. I had hope after his preseason play as well, but last week was rough. His start to the game was also rough. He tossed some ducks early last night that had me worried. I'm glad he got it together. I hope he keeps it tight from here on. I am reasonably optimistic that this will continue.
With Jones, he pretty much did what he always does. A bit better than previous in pass rush, though it's not his strength. He is still completely lost in pass cover.
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4 minutes ago, Booch said:
yeah I stand by my comment that Osh is a pansy at times with his challenge opportunities...goes home way too often at end of game with it still in his pocket
For a guy when times were tougher around here and he was scuffling as a coach he sure showed a lot more balls and with trickery....extracting whatever he can out of obscure rules....challenge flags...going for it...got a couple Cup wins and now like a lot of his rostering and talent decisions....he's coasting and being all status quo...He used to have a big set of onions....seems like he a couple Glossett's tucked in his cargo shorts now
yeah I gonna peruse once i get some work done...I'll need some entertainment
I don't know if he can bust through this plateau he has reached as a coach, while still being here. I think we are going to be locked in to a lot of the same stuff, for a long time. I think when things come to an end here, how ever and when ever that happens, he could take the next step.
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20 minutes ago, Booch said:
we got mugged a lot more than they did in the dline holding...but we got away with a few...call that a wash
The Bonds INT...That was a good call...he had help from the ground...a good play tho and forced a punt but we didnt get jobbed there...the PI on on Holm was straight crap tho...and Osh needs to challenge that....he is weak and slow onthe challenges...often
Yeah I think we got away maybe with more tugs, but they got away with the most egregious plays. Guys like paddy and Stan know exactly what they can get away with.
I’ve got no gripe going either way in the call on bonds pick. That was a tough play to call with all but one angle at super slow mo. My only issue is the quality of the challenge review, and the integrity of the process. I want that to be strong and consistent.
18 minutes ago, blue85gold said:I don't think it would have been overturned. They call accidental PI on any DB that breathes on a receiver as they fall down. The receiver can trip the DB and then shove them down but the way they call it the DB can't do anything.
I don’t agree, I think it’s clear he didn’t trip the wr. I also think it’s critical to throw those challenges if you think they won’t over turn it. Make it stand out and appeal it. Force the league to address it and change. Allowing them to brush it under the rug is being complicit.
also, we had a time when those calls were super soft. But that was overhauled a couple years ago. It’s not that way any more. Incidental dpi is not that common and WRs don’t dive and draw calls easily.
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25 minutes ago, Dr Zaius said:
No no. The refs always favor the bombers though
Just ask @lyin' guy and RF.com
"The bombers only had like 3 calls against them!!!!!"
ITs A CoNsPiRaCy for the bombers!!!
Willy J held 10 times, elks receiver trips over his own feet and Holm gets phantom PI: *crickets*
I hate that mentality. Every things a conspiracy and the league/refs prop x team.
Neither the league nor the refs are remotely competent enough to prop up their own jobs little on go way outside that and do some thing much harder.
I think the reffing was fairly even in its badness last night. We lost two turn overs on questionable situations. And honestly, though I saw a couple brutal holds against our dl, our dl is not good at getting pressure. Our ol benefited more from the modern lack of holding calls than our dl suffered from it.
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We should’ve learned our lesson last year from what Bryant went through. If a linemen is sick for a week, don’t throw him into the heat of a summer game.
have the opportunity to make some good changes, not betting we will see more than 1 positive change though.