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16 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:
Those 6 games Stove played in Wpg. made him a legend, hasn't done anything since.
The 7 games in 2021 was the single most dominant dt display I’ve seen in the league since Doug brown. The 19 season was good though we rotated a lot more imps then.
1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:This one time, Stove threw 4 OL, a Rb and half of the Riders coaching staff to the ground and then just took the ball out of CoFaj's hands and raced in for a TD. Then he kicked the extra point.
when fajardo walks into a kitchen he still can’t bring him self to look at the stove. He just averts his eyes and slinks away.
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With rookie camp starting soon, it’s a fair time imo to evaluate the off season. We didn’t have the flexibility to bring in vets at vacated spots but our recruiting has been stellar. We filled our gaps and rebuilt our ni depth and pipeline.
I’d give it an A-. A+ would require a good vet at de or db or a replacement punter.
Best qb talent in the league despite losing the best back up qb in the league. We’ve got the present the future and the long term future sealed up.
I think we will see Roty competition from db and de.- Noeller, rebusrankin and Tracker
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2 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Torn his achilles twice.
Not a good fat man injury.
Stove isn’t fat, but it’s an awful injury for such a big guy. He’s stocky af. His game is predicated on the explosive first step too.
I don’t blame them at all for giving him a shot. He’s worth a flyer. But he’s a long shot to say the least.57 minutes ago, Pete said:the only thing is Menard is the same age as Thomas with worse stats, If it was 2 years ago Menard, maybe
Pretty much. I’d take Kongbo over menard. And neither is likely.
We don’t as much need a ni de now though. We’ve got dts, and dbs with 6 starters on offence and we don’t have to burn a di any more. Realistically we could use our 3rd imp wr on the kr too. We can easily di a 3rd de to rotate.
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Just now, Booch said:
I think more than anything it's just work...and good coaching....and from experince I know how foot speed and general lateral movement improves from just shedding 15 to 20 pounds
Agree. He’s one of the more raw guys at the top of the draft. Incredible talent, athleticism and the right mind set though.
I can’t imagine him missing here with Marty and our system.Just now, Booch said:they can power in way more effectively especially with a strong tilt...and are not just sent way outside...Like u saw a lot with Betts
I wouldn’t be surprised to see more 3-4 end types succeeding up here on the edge. Teams have been adjusting to run fits that pull sam/dhb/Ss into the box. An easy way to cover fits with out pulling dbs is to run guys who can play more than a gap.
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1 minute ago, Booch said:
Dabreu...powerfully built....like that in a dline guy....could be a nice dark horse
Yeah I do love the bigger des we see now. Guys rolling a lean athletic 265 range shed a lot easier than the undersized edges we’ve seen for a long time.
Dl is gonna be a great battle to see. Probably the biggest position to watch. As goes the line so goes the team.
- Bigblue204 and Noeller
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2 hours ago, Booch said:
I'd be more concerned with that if he was a tackle and or projected to be one....Coaching and reps at pro level will be all he needs to be a mauling interior guy....you cant teach size and brute force, and the ability to wash guys out...which is what he brings....We will coach him up to get lower...how to create a strong base...and be a body mover...no concerns there...And if he has any hand skills, and seeing as he has above average arm length for an interior guys...he will be just fine....and he has prob one the best all time in Bryant with his hand technique to watch and learn from....If You ever focus on Bryant and watch how with even the most isnignificant looking thigs he does with his hands to disrupt a pass rusher you will truly be amazed...and what little effort it takes for him to do it....Dude's a master and part of why he has been able to play an elite level in his mid/late 30's...his bread and butter isnt necessarily speed and brute force
With his athleticism and needing to trim down a bit I’d be very confident Marty Costello can polish his footwork and that any foot speed issue is purely mechanical.
If the near future of our interior ol is Dobson, Eli and Wallace that’s pretty darned good. He should probably be dropping 20-25 lbs, crazy to think how much more explosive he might be then.
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1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:
Bombers signed a couple of American Dlinemen today. Rick D'Abreu from Texas Christian and David Green out of Pittsburgh.
Both are coming straight from college.
dabreu looks like the type of guy we’d play inside and out.
https://pittsburghpanthers.com/sports/football/roster/david-green/12580
green has played some nose, 2, 2i, and 4i in 30 fronts. Has a good motor, and that versatility is huge for how we run fronts at our best. Not sure he has the push to excel, but he did play very good competition, it’d be bazar for him to dominant come out and not get a look.
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10 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:
Love how he finishes his blocks, right through the whistle. Punishing style. Love it.
Thats what she said.....
We got a class full of blood n guts fifo football players, but with lots of upside and talent. Going to be a fun group to watch.
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53 minutes ago, Booch said:
and he was on verge of leavibg too going into his second deal....but he gave it one more shot here...and paid off....too bad with BOLO we didnt allow him any opp whatsoever....ThoI think the new kid has more upside and use here....no knock on BOLO but he isn't the physical guy the new fella is
I cant see any ay...or reason Schmekle and Kornelson (sp)??...can make the active roster...Kornelson possinly PR'd....but Schmeckle I see zero future here...and should have been clipped last yr..
Yeah. Only way I see either sticking around, other than getting moved to ol which isn’t needed, is if Thomas retires or gets hurt and is out for a good while.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
Kelly should have been on active roster all year long....when he was on he was one the top ST guys we employed....losing games for the likes of Schmeckle...That Oline guy we dressed earlier in the yr for no particular reason...Named started with an S....thats how much an impact he made on my mind....Bennett...who better really bring it and show he belongs, or be cut in camp....just a complete head shaker...almost on par with the Jackson lunacy....so odd he hasn't been scooped up for his stellar DI use elsewhere...tells you something especially with a few real weak sisters in the league
100%.
I think the possible hold back will be having 3 ni Ss on the roster. Previously I thought we would platoon ford and Kramdi. But If they keep kramdi at Sam and start ford at corner it could make sense to keep the extra ni db on the ar.
I had hoped we’d look at Karamoko more on the ar this year as well but we don’t seem to be seriously looking to replace Sheehan. But I suspect we will keep a global lber playing teams instead. Weitz should have a quick easy transition to playing teams up here though ogbeveon sounds like he has more upside.
I can’t imagine smekle beating out Samson.
56 minutes ago, Booch said:Just win here....or be contending yearly....that and the culture here is a strong pull to retain guys.....if they are used that is....we need to utilize our young talent and actually give them snaps...we have lagged a lot in that capacity over recent yrs...
His ability to beat guys and separate deep was surprising. And he’s smoother than you’d expect with his role type. Pretty excited to see what he can do, I love that mix of talent athleticism and character.
57 minutes ago, Booch said:Just win here....or be contending yearly....that and the culture here is a strong pull to retain guys.....if they are used that is....we need to utilize our young talent and actually give them snaps...we have lagged a lot in that capacity over recent yrs...
Kept woli here through some really low touch seasons.
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Such a damned shame. Did a lot for the bombers and the market.
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4 hours ago, Jpan85 said:
Not sure how much he has left but this is a big signing for Lions
Only 30 but over 100 nfl games. Man if he’s got any thing left that’s massive. I’d love to have him here.
4 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:Chandler Worthy cut buy MTL...wouldn't mind having him here for TC
I’d take him but I’m sure we won’t even investigate. Sounded like Walters couldn’t imagine a way of fitting grant back in the budget.
elk cut makonzo too. He’s solid especially as depth some one will grab him.
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15 DL on the roster, plus 2 picks plus 1 returning from college. 7 of the 15 are DTs, plus 1 pick and 1 returning. Could see another couple ends come in still.
11 ol plus I would expect the 2 late picks to be in camp. Could see us adding more OL before full camp.
9 lbers plus 2 drafted and 1 returning from college. Thats a LOT of lbers, but we can always use more and always carry lots.
26 dbs on the roster plus the 3 signed today. 0.0 thats a lot lol. I could see a handful getting cut in rookie camp and a bunch more brought in for full camp.
4 rbs plus 1 drafted and 1 returning. I could see another imp or two coming in, though probably more KR types. RB and QB would be nearly impossible to crack to roster on here.
22 wrs plus 2 drafted. We never stop adding wrs or dbs. Could see a few more wrs to limit lopsidedness in rookie camp, and again KR types.
4 qbs plus the 1 from the college program, probably won't see an arm brought in unless some one is hurt or cut early.
2 kickers and 2 punters. Probably done on that front too.
- Pete Catan's Ghost, JCon, Noeller and 2 others
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6 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
Four added the roster:
https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/05/01/blue-bombers-add-four-to-roster/
3 imp dbs and a canadian punter. Roster falling into place pretty nicely.
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Michael chris ike
6'1 225 4.51 40 16 reps 225 35.5" vert 10'2.25" broad 6.71 3 cone 4.19 shuttle. Fastest 3 cone, shuttle and 40 times at the draft.
https://nfldraftdiamonds.com/2023/11/michael-chris-ike/
- bb1 and Fatty Liver
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https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/04/30/meet-the-2024-draft-class/
6'2 217 4.59 40 34" vert 15 reps 225 10'9.25" broad 7.02 3 cone and 4.5 shuttle
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1 hour ago, WinnipegGordo said:40 minutes ago, Sard said:
Watching this I wonder if "our guy" was Kevens or Ike, or even both.
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Argo’s announce co defensive co-ordinators. Never works out well.
- rebusrankin and Bigblue204
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2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Their mini camp is next weekend. Our rookie camp starts the Wednesday after, full camp the Monday after that.
That’s their SnC.
8 minutes ago, bluedawg said:This is incorrect, rookie minicamps all end by May 13 around the NFL
Rfd begins on the 13th. Before that is optional draft rookies.
we clearly targeted positions of need/want in this draft. But still managed to get a ton of value picks. Bunch of guys that can go back for another year of college which is always nice from late picks.
I could see 3 of these guys being on the ar this year, and gassama could easily stick on our pr based on depth needs a lone. Good handful of guys for futures. Say it was a B+ draft that could easily end up an A+ a bunch of different ways.
Hope we sign a global punter still but kind of doubt it.
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2 minutes ago, Mike said:
Invitation to mini camp is not training camp
Their mini camp starts two weeks after our final roster cut down. Means no camp here if he doesn’t get pulled in for tc
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Just now, bluedawg said:
Mike Ike is just a minicamp guy, that means he is not going to be in rookie camp but will be there when main camp opens. He will be on the team this year
Big athletic back with some blocking pedigree could very easily get called up to full camp.
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45 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:
Nah take a look at him on his film tape. He's 6'3 295 and not fat at all. He's a nose in this league. Doesn't look to me like a guy who will need to fix his body at all like some of the recent U of M picks we've made or Wallace this year.
He is not by any means a lean 295. He’s not Matt Sheridan, but he has a worse build for an interior lineman than Dobson came here with. he’s a player though. I get why they like him. If he translates his game it’ll be a great pick.
21 minutes ago, Goalie said:Bombers grab manu. He ain’t coming.
He’s far from a sure thing to stick in the nfl he’s a project that needs a decent bit of polish. He’s less risky than some guys who went earlier imo.
he’s gonna sit for a year on the pr for sure. But I don’t think he’s 1 year away from making an nfl active roster. Could be here in 2-3 years, and could be a huge impact for us if he does. Great risk vs reward that late. I mean we took the gamble after drafting a long snapper.11 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:The long snapper from Laval is going back.
Mike Ike is bound for jets camp too.
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Even in pass pro it is soo much more important at T than guard. You can cover for a guard pretty easily too with a good T or C.
the difference between grant, and every one else was gigantic. I don’t think we need some one to make us forget grant, I’m not expecting a multi td kr this year. Maybe no kr tds. But at least we need some one cover teams have to work to cover, catches the ball clean as much as possible, makes the right decisions, and gets north south asap while gathering respectable yards.
Couple of the guys we brought in with kr experience looked good in college. So I’m hopeful. Personally, a kr/wr who can run some sweeps opposite of Demski and start at wr while returning is the dream. Saving a roster spot, especially a di is as good as being game breaking.
we could spell a starting wr in coverage some with guys like ford. I’d love to see clercius and MCI get reps at returning kicks too.