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	man, If demski is that close, even if he goes what level of play is he gonna be able to bring? Don’t like that. No Demski and if we stay married to the old guys on the dl, that’s soo hard to over come.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion Cfl starters do tend to be a bit older than nflers. they start later and end later.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion I’ll say he’s far from the biggest issue on our D, and he is a good football player. Like many here, he’s limited but isn’t played with in those limits. Combine that with the fact we have younger, and canadian, guys with more upside and it’s frustrating. I wouldn’t worry about his age much tbh, he’s fairly low wear and tear for his age. When he loses a step that will probably be it, as is almost always the case in football.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion rourke had 2 games under 280 yards passing, and 12 games 300+, with 2 over 280. Only 2 games with more picks than tds, he threw for a td in all but 1 game. 2 400+ games 2 4 td games, plus 5 total tds in week 16. Harris had 6 games over 300, 2 3 td games, 2 no td games, 2 more ints than TDS games, and 6 real games with less than 280 passing. vaj had 4 games 300+, 4 3 td games, 7 no passing td games, 4 more ints than td games, and 11 games with less than 280. I think you can make a very good case that vaj was the mvp, as a lot of calgarys turn around was him. But bc had an atrocious D for a big chunk of the year and rourke carried them. If rourke was in calgary, I think they finish first. For my money, ssk had far more to work with for harris. Better line, deeper wr core, much better team and position to be put in on each drive. Rourke was the lions this year. If you swapped harris or vaj to bc, I think we are playing a home game in the play offs. Imo, Rourke is a slam dunk as moc and mop in any reasonable world. In the cfl, riders bias vs kid canada bias, I have no clue what to expect. you nailed it with how much of a difference maker rourkes legs are this year. I think he’s the better qb with out the yards or rushing tds, but his mobility is a big part of what enabled him to succeed. Just like prime zach with buck and bourgoin, the roll out is deadly. I think elgersma is our only medium to long term shot at contending short of finding a crazy winning power ball ticket type of player.
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	but hey why let reality get in the way of a hot take?
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion it makes sense to do that when you have a bunch of wrs and few rbs who deserve it.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion Also, the 4 leading rushers are in the west, including brady leading yards from the los. So arguably the best backs in the league don’t make the list, but all the 1k wrs save for one makes it. The all star list/system is dumb. It should be first and second team all cfl, With flexibility for positions to make sure you represent the best talent not just positions.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion You pretty much nailed it with the last sentence. Reality of the league is, we don’t have impact players at mac. For me, I’d rather take a guy who was injured but dominant. Like kyrie in his best years. After that, I’d pick a hands up pass rusher, extra end or extra db especially at sam. A better than average sam does far more to help his team than a top mac right now. I knew they’d fall into the trap of picking Jones. I was only surprised we didn’t front him for modp. The guy in the west I would pick if i had to pick one, would actually be aj allen (riders, I know ew) he was the best in the division, while thurman is a big padded tackles guy (and the best of the padders) allen was exceptional at getting back in coverage and has tremendous football iq. In the east and very similar in game to allen is Darkangelo. The guys like that, and kyrie (in his prime) weren’t running around like bighill and soli making the flash plays. They excel by playing much larger areas than the box. It’s exceptionally hard to be a true side line to side line player in the cfl. Border line impossible. But the guys who play one has to opposite side line (kyrie,) and/or from the gaps back into the secondary (biggie) are the real stand outs.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion This is the equivalent of, "I did my own research on Google, and it told me the scientists are wrong!" Tackles are awarded on every single non-scoring offensive snap. All a tackle stat says is you were in the same place when the play ended. Not to mention how spuriously they are awarded in this league without half tackles/Asts.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion 4 TFL in an every-down role, over an 18-game schedule, as a run-stopping only imp Lber is really bad. Awe and Sankey are both classic cases of tackle padders after yards are gained. Take a look back at the thread I made about the average depth of tackle. I broke down multiple games, especially with Aw,e where he was racking up 10+ tackles and huge amounts of them came after first downs, and greater than average yards per touch had been achieved. Lber is simply the lowest value starting position on Ds in this era. Wil and Mac, for most teams, are relegated to spying Qbs/Rbs and trying to get in the way of pass lanes. That's why so many teams are flipping those spots. Take a look at those 3 LBER teams, and their yards per rush against, rushing yards given up, average rush yards given up on first down, opponent rushes on first down, and big runs given up. If tackles dictated success, you would expect to see similarities in outcome for all 3 teams, and since they were the 3 top linebackers in tackles, that they would be 3 of the top, if not the top Ds across the board vs the run. Only, that is not what you see. What you find is that those 3 teams rank all over last through 2nd in the league in those stats. And that the team that consistently is the top against the run, isn't one with the top tackling Lbers or players in general. Last year, the top tackling team was the riders, with a slightly better than average D. This year, they don't, and they are the best front half D in the league. And who did they turn to at Mac this year? A role-playing Canadian, who, despite having fewer tackles, had a better year than Jones. He 87 tackles with 4 sacks, 3 picks, 3 FF, 4 TFL, and 4 PKDs. Tackles at mac, are an indication of teams running between the tackles. A high volume of tackles 5 yards down field and further, is an indication of not making the play in the gap and coming back to drag a guy down.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion people love to over rate tackles especially at lber. and/or is willing/planning to throw his coach under the bus in case of crash. I don’t think walters will do that, I think he will take the bullet for mos. correlation is not causation. Tackles are not a success indicator at lber or db. jones barely has any tfl, he’s not making stops at a depth where he/we are winning the snap. Most of his tackles are 5 yards and further down field. If he didn’t make those stops, some one else would’ve for comparable outcomes. He wasn’t running around like ray lewis making massive stops and stuffs.
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	that either means day off, or out long term. in this case i suspect they aren’t hurt thankfully. No kidding. I’ve got an uneasy feeling about this game. big dude too. Reminds me a little of ceresna. Not as heavy, But easily looks strong enough to tear it up at 3t/4i and book end. It’s insane how many outliers we have on the dl, and how few of them we use.
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	  Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Threadwbbfan replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion If he has an opportunity to take a gm job in ontario, or maybe run a good osu team, I think he will take it.
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	you aren’t a military vet are you? few bars and stripes will guarantee you a spot
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	Boy I hope lawson isn’t out. A combo of thomas and korny playing all the reps at one dt spot (and probably a big chunk of the other) is really hard to over come. Didn’t think our nat dt situation could get worse last year. Then this year is like hold my beer! What’s gonna happen next year, we sign one of the old old heads from on here to rotate with jake?
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	it’s basically to a point where 80% of gc games need to be played in one of 3 places. While thats true, not a ton of cities make much off the game. A place like calgary or edmonton would very likely lose money to have a 20-25k ish attendance. Half the fields in the league this year aren’t high enough quality either imo.
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	Hopefully hassan’s isn’t a sign of injury concerns.
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	Yup. Flashing a hit on kick cover doesn’t always mean you have a good cover guy or a good fit here. But, he almost blocked a punt with his physicality and motor, and most importantly imo, the play where he charged down field and pancakes his blocker was soo much more. That’s the type of selfless play that goes a long way both here and in general. Hes got the athleticism, physicality, motor, and drive to succeed any time you put him on. Which as a dl is soo much more value in the cfl. Hes a really polished pass rusher with tremendous tools and just gets it. Teams players at lber are default because they are big enough to beat out half the skill position players physically and still fast enough to get down field. The under sized db types offer a lot less unless they can actually cover wrs. Linemen who can run fast enough to cover kicks are gold.
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	nailed it. We’ve been lucky that our most successful coaches we have had, have been likeable especially by pro coaching standards. The list of detestable people as coaches here is pretty short, and mostly short lived. While i have great contempt for mos’ failings as a head coach, and believe he’s about run his time out short of drastic changes, he is a tremendous person and leader. Eventually, my lasting memory of him will be the 21gc parade in the stadium, when he and his wife went around picking up trash from the field. Pure class. Grim reality is that the coaching world is filled with highly decorated people who range from @$$holes to pure garbage. Maas isn’t a bad guy, but he isn’t great. He has become a great coach up here, especially in montreal. He and Maciocia jive in a way that makes a whole lot of sense once you think about it. Boy am I glad they got the two turds on mute for this one. I am hoping this ends up being a throw back to those old intense rivalry games when we were in the east, but with a better out come than we usually saw.
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	we all know the reality here. The league wants a decent size crowd no matter who plays, and don’t care that the fan experience will be trash and that people will get screwed and gouged.
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	3 guys in their first pro games.
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	He was twice benched before he got the big deal he’s on. Same happened to mbt fajardo etc. Likely in the 200k plus incentives range. Meanwhile, Idont like elgersma will come cheap since he’s still pining for an nfl pr deal. He might think he could get a second tc shot. I hope so, but we do tend to move glacially slow with these decisions.
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	You’re acting like they have 18 ol on the roster and benched the 1s to go from 2nd unit to third. That just isn’t the case. They dressed their usual 7ol, only mcgloster missed the game, who missed 4 games injured this year. Their tackles and C didn’t sub, they subbed guards late. They wouldn’t have left mbt out with a 3rd string ol for the whole game either. Their roster was prepped and made with the expectation of it being a must win. They have 2 rookie imp ol, 1 imp 1 global and both stayed on the PR. The only change they will make to their ol, is if mcgloster can get healthy.
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	If he’s available, I’d look at crum. I also don’t think we’d be in the market to pay ford what he’d want
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	Problem with that is we didn’t have a proper qb2 this year either. We need to do better next year, and not marginally better at qb. If masoli retires i could see bc going for ford. Back up canadian to the canadian and buck can run his strev pack stuff He’s an upgrade over streveler at doing streveler things. But not an upgrade as a qb. Because as of yet, he hasn’t shown to remotely be a qb in the cfl. I think highly of elgersma, but It would be crazy for him to take real reps next year. This year has shown you need a qb2 who can start, run the offence and win. Not just come off the bench.

 
         
					
						 
					
						