Colin Unger

If in fact there were better offensive lineman available at the number 7 spot than Walters predicted the nice thing about this is they didn’t give away their pick.  It should result in a top 3 pick next year from BC.   Secondly without this trade there’s a good chance Simonise would not have been on he board when our 2nd round pick came around. 
The trade to me really hinges on how good spooner and the developmental guy from last year are.  If they are legit future starters than it was a good trade because we are going to have trouble protecting all these guys. Especially if Gray joins the team later this year.

not sure if just drafted a Ultimate frisbee player?

i stopped following the board and was watching tsn. wow embarrassment of talent at NI wr. 

I am curious if the trade down by the Bombers with the Lions could also be viewed as a "Geoff Gray is coming this season" move?

Odds are great that BC’s pick next season will be better than 7th.
bombers acquired a better 2nd rounder as well.
Bombers save cash this season.
 
any other thoughts? 

https://www.cfl.ca/2018/05/02/lions-acquire-first-round-selection-pick-swap-bombers/

Maybe he will sign in Winnipeg after the next time he gets cut.

Allen has the most upside IMO.  And playing for the Bills should work out well. They have a dominant run game and are used to not asking much from their quarterback. They can simplify the passing game for him early on as he works on his accuracy and understanding of the game. Just having him back there might help as the safeties wouldn't be able to cheat with an arm like that. 
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So the Browns ended up drafted just one an offensive lineman. The chances of Gray cracking the lineup is pretty decent. I'm sure they will sign some priority free agents.  Can't we just call in a favor to Bob Wylie.  Get him to guy Gray and make public comments about how he doesn't have the right stuff to play in the NFL .      Geoff Gray if you're reading this JKJK

No question the stadium has been and will be subsidized to an extent, like pretty much every pro arena and stadium in North America and probably world-wide. There was no alternative to building a new facility- the old one was crumbling and would have condemned the Bombers to a slow death.

because GD is where talk goes to die  
 I think it would have been solid for a win this year move, if the browns traded down for him and went with an old vick type offensive game plan. 
Id take allen over any other qb in this draft.  Idk if any one of the qbs are good enough to be a real bust this year.  if its any one imo its darnold. 

I was more surprised they passed on Chubb at #4 than barley at 1....   runningbacks are not nearly as valued in the nfl at qbs these days and they were able to pick the quarterback they wanted.  They filled a positional need at 4 picking cornerback ward. They perhaps should have traded down but with 12 picks they were probably better off just making sure they filled their positional need at corner.   It’s rally irritating that they now take 3 days to do the draft.   

I’m surprise that the patriots didn’t take qb Jackson.  I guess they are still laser focused on what the team needs to win the Super Bowl right now. But eventually Tom Brady isn’t going to be around anymore. 

Me too. I really like what the Bills did too.  Allen could end up being the best qb in the group.  

I like Baker Mayfield. Hes got fire.. Hes a leader and a good QB.. Browns OL coach is Bob Wylie so they should be better. Id have taken Mayfield 1st overall also. Hes a stud. Hes gonna be a star if they let him develop properly and dont rush him. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I heard the Browns were going to use all their picks on quarterbacks.

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I'll be paying close attention to the Cleveland Browns in the NFL draft over the next few days. Currently Geoff Gray is a fringe roster player but that could change depending on how many offensive lineman the Browns end up drafting and where they draft them. Typically NFL teams like to carry 9 offensive lineman on the gameday roster and 2 of them tend to be young developmental guys. Geoff Gray will be in a battle to stick as one of the two developmental lineman. If healthy,  tackle Rod Johnson who the team drafted in the 5th round last year would be in line to be one of the two making the roster.  Gray would currently be competing with undrafted free agents Victor Salako and Christian Schneider for that final roster spot. No doubt they will bring in more undrafted free agents this season but the real wildcard here is the fact that the Browns are loaded with 12 picks in this year's draft. They could use a first or 2nd round pick to draft a tackle to compete for the starting job which is currently available but this would have little impact on Gray as it would likely lead to a veteran backup being beat out.  What I'm most interested to see is if they pick any offensive lineman in rounds 4 through 7 who would be very hard to release after having given them signing bonuses and have spent draft picks on them. Typically 20% of picks are used on offensive lineman in the NFL. So the way I see it they pick one in the first two rounds and then 1 or 2 later on in the draft to develop. 
In a few days we should have a much better idea of what Gray's realistic chances are of sticking with the Browns this season.  I view this season as a make or break year for him. He needs to make a roster. There's simply too much attrition going on and after failing to crack two rosters so far this could be one of the last opportunities he has to stick it out in the NFL. By next season he'll be 24 and no longer viewed as a developmental project. He'll undoubtedly start being viewed for only what he currently brings to the table. The clock is ticking. I hope he does well but deep down I would love to see him come up here and have a long career for the bombers. 

I remember being disappointed we got Goosen instead of Lavertu. Thing worked out well for the bombers there. 

We will also likely draft an OL with our first pick

It's football, we'd better be planning that injuries will happen.  At every spot.  That doesn't mean Dyakowski should be signed.  Can we get the same level of play from Couture and save $60,000 in the process?
The way people talk here, it seems like Neufeld is the only player to get injured in his career.  What I remember in 2017 is he started all the games he was asked to when Bond got injured.  Bond, that guy some people still are really hung up on losing.  Does that count as irony?  My recollection is that Goossen and Chungh were the only starters on the Oline to not miss any starts last year, and Chungh was playing pretty injured for a few games.
My point is Neufeld is a forum whipping boy - maybe it's the red hair?  Someone should check if he was a stepchild.  Sometimes it needs to be dialed back to an objective look at reality.  He has missed more games than average for his position.  Has he had more injuries than average or have his injuries just been more severe?  Injury prone?  Just unfortunate?
He's going to get a physical before camp.  The doctors are going to check his knees, for example.  They might be normal knees for an Olineman who has played pro ball for more than 5 years (not great).  They might be in rough shape for an Olineman who has played 5 years (not much life left).  Or they might be in bad shape for an Olineman (will need a lift assist in his house within 20 years).  And unless he doesn't pass his physical, we won't know the results of it.  It could be he has the best set of knees on the team and this "luck of the Irish" isn't a real thing.
And what does any of that have to do with Dyakowski?  Nothing really.  There is still limited space on the roster, and the plans the Bombers have for the players they have been developing may not allow for one more non-starter.  Goossen, Chungh, Neufeld and Couture are on the 44, as well as Bryant and Hardwick.  Foketi as the perpetual healthy scratch.  Spooner on the 1-game IR all year?  6 game?  Back to the PR?  Gray?  Speller?  DraftedOlineman#1?  DraftedOlineman#2?
For that matter, my recollection is also that Dyakowski has had a few injuries of his own during his time in Hamilton.
 
 
Did you know someone had the gall to say something nice about Lankford yesterday?  And they didn't even put it in a criticism sandwich?  You know, where you say something bad about his skill level, quickly make a non-committal half-hearted compliment about something he did well, then insult his work ethic.  We might need to take that poster aside and remind him that kind of independent thinking is not going to be well received here.