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  1. 4 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:

    In those last couple of years though how many of those catches were him moving maybe 3-4 yards after the snap, And then just standing there waiting until his QB had no other choice but to dump it off to him........ it just got boring to watch.

    sounds like he would have been a great fit in the Bombers offence!   would have been Nichols favourite target!

  2. 1 hour ago, JCon said:

    A poster said the president was fixing the books but provided zero proof. 

    I'm pretty sure with how the Bombers organization is structured, such a thing would be damn near impossible.  Wade Miller is accountable to the 12 person Board of Directors, who's primary role I would think is to analyze the financial situation of the club, being publicly owned.   Don't think such a thing would slip through the hands of these highly credible folks:  https://www.bluebombers.com/board-of-directors/

    What a crazy statement!

  3. 3 minutes ago, WBBFanWest said:

    The Lions are compensating the Stamps for allowing him to break the contract an leave.  In theory, they could have said "non" and that would have ended it. Think of this as a cancellation fee.

    Oh I get the premise, I just don't think the way 3downnation worded it is factual.  There wouldn't be 2 contracts in place for next season, so you can't pay a value of something that's null & void.  Call it what it is, it's a poaching penalty!

  4. by taking a promotion elsewhere, aren't you essentially backing out of your contract??  seems like there shouldn't be anything payable to Claybrooks from Calgary if he's waiving that contract.  Doesn't make sense that he'd have a contract with Stamps and the Lions for 2019.  Compensation should be there for sure, but it doesn't make sense that you'd be paying half a contract that would be voided.    Isn't it usually compensation like a draft pick that teams would give up??

     

  5. 6 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    They're both inconsistent players so no I wouldn't put them ahead of Nichols. We go back to last year and Nichols is ahead of those guys, one year doesn't change things significantly. You must look at the entire picture. Nichols is a guy who you can win with and he's shown that he can win when he doesn't have the defense backing him up either. 

    But in 2016-17, Nichols was largely successful when defences weren't keying in on the dump pass to Harris.  Teams have adjusted, which is proof based on this receiving production this season.  When you take away that short pass, Nichols doesn't seem to have nearly the success.   If the offence is built to run and play the short pass game, having a mobile QB is going to be essential.  Nichols is a pocket passer, and he has lower than average completion % when going long.  This is a problem.

    At least Harris & Massoli are a threat to connect on the deep balll.  For that, my opinion is they both rank ahead of Nichols.

  6. 2 hours ago, White Out said:

    Bob Cameron is the epitome of "Bomber-ness" but Ryan was obviously a better punter skill wise. Tough call.

    Back at the old stadium in the Chairman's lounge, I once saw Bob Cameron chug a full beer, get up on the table and plank (I think thats what the kids called it), and hold himself up there for almost a minute.  This wasn't more than 6-7 years ago, so he would have been in his late 50's.  That was legendary stuff!  Then he went and crushed another beer with Walby!

  7. 1 hour ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    More BS. Show me where I made excuses for his play or claimed he didn't have a mediocre season.

    My comment regarding his injury was strictly to do with how that physical issue could've affected him mentally. Again: I suggest you actually read what others post. I won't claim to know at what percentage he was but his play was obviously affected by what happened in TC in early June, whether physical, mental, or both. That was evident for the majority of the season save perhaps the final home game vs. CGY.

    Physical ailments and mental struggles are not mutually exclusive, especially for players at a crucial position like QB.

    Jesus... this is where things got confused.    It was SpeedFlex who said 'Nichols is not mediocre' and then you commented on my response to that.  Got the comments mixed up!  My apologies.

  8. 2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

    There is no etc, it's those guys and no one else and even Ray is probably too old to really be considered in that group. After those two guys you're left trying to find someone who is good enough, which Nichols has shown plenty of times that he is. 

    You don't win as many games as he has for this team by accident. 

    so you wouldn't place Trevor Harris or Jeremiah Massoli ahead of Matt Nichols?   Ray is done... I will be absolutely shocked if he doesn't retire.  He's probably still got the tools to give it one more go, but with the freak injury he sustained, you've got to think between him & his family, they'll decide to hang em up!  He has nothing more to prove.... especially not playing on the Argos squad.

  9. 50 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    Seriously, it's just pathetic to see the lengths to which some go here to peddle their BS. Even when proven incorrect, it's just more BS, deflection, and goalpost-moving. There should be warnings and/or temporary bans handed out for that annoying garbage. All it does is clutter up threads and take away from actual worthwhile discussion here.

    It was broadcast everywhere back in early June what happened to Nichols and a simple open source internet search shows just that. One would have to be seriously unintelligent, ignorant, or flat out delusional to ignore/forget it.

    you can call it pathetic all you want... you're the one making excuses for Nichols play and claiming that it wasn't mediocre, with damn near a full season of play that indicates otherwise.

    And to claim that I have a dislike for the player... that's fine.  Not totally accurate, as I do like the guy and think he's a good person.  All I'm really trying to get across is that I don't feel this is the guy that's going to get us a Grey Cup.

    That said.... the Bomber brass clearly isn't going to make a change between now and training camp, so I'm just going to stop beating this dead horse.  We're stuck with Nichols, and unless Streveler comes to training camp and absolutely steals the starting position, Nichols will be "the guy" to start the 2019 season.  Do I like it?  No.  Does my opinion matter?  No.  We'll just have to see how things go next season to see who's ultimately correct in the assessment of whether Nichols is an elite QB or not.

  10. I wasn't talking about the training camp injury.....everyone knows that happened.  You indicated he was "probably dealing with an injury all season".  I am yet to see anything stating that Nichols was dealing with a major injury at the end of the year.   Everyone thought 'good, he's back to normal' after the bye week post Banjo Bowl.   So... saying he was hurt all season, you're making assumptions.

  11. 3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    You're speculating based on pure assumption and an obvious emotional bias.     

    "Streveler starting to pick up some steam" (No, he wasn't. He was downright bad in that week 3 loss to the Ti-Cats)
    "...him telling the medical staff that he's ready to go, when he probably truly wasn't." (You know nothing, so don't make claims you can't substantiate)
    "I'm guessing Nichols wanted those easy W's next to his name and rushed back." (What nonsense)
    "Streveler would have picked up wins in those games as well, and he knew it.  Probably would have put up better numbers too!" (More rampant speculation based on nothing more than your dislike of a player)

    I know it's fun for you to dump on #15 to your heart's content and blame him and only him for that WSF loss, but if you're going to "make a point" while doing so, at least be rational and objective about it. The fact is you made no point and you trumped absolutely nothing.

    And I didn't theorize anything, either. Do you know what a theory even is? It's like you didn't even my post and just blurted out a bunch of triggered, immature gibberish. Go back and read what I actually posted.

    I'd also suggest consulting a dictionary before you attempt to deride others and misuse words you clearly don't understand (see the bolded words highlighted for you).

    Yes, I am simply speculating.   Isn't that what the basis of this site is?  Opinions & speculation?

    Streveler may not have been picking up steam, that was a poor choice of words.  But I think him getting a few more games would have done wonders for his development, because once Nichols was ready, he would have lots of game film of his to study and then some time on the sideline to watch and learn.

    And I did go back and read what you wrote.... you said Nichols knee was hurt.  So... yeah, you want to talk about making claims you can't substantiate.  Where have you heard or read proof of this?

  12. 6 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    Streveler was picking up steam going into week 4...?

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    His week 3 stat line: 17/30 (56.7%), 146 yards, 4.9 YPC.

    Hilarious revisionist history. Only to be followed up with hopelessly rampant speculation (Streveler would've won those games, he'd have put up better numbers). LOL

    My point is that we were going into a back to back situation against BC, arguably the weakest team in the West to start the year.  Even with Nichols like production, Streveler could have come out with the W in those games.

    Bombers won 41-19.   Nichols stat line:  16/29 (55.2%) for 162 yds.   Wow!   That's a huge improvement!  The QB play regressed slightly, but we still came out with the W.  Sorry to trump your ridiculous theory that we couldn't have won that without almighty Matt behind centre!

  13. 13 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

    I don't think Nichols is mediocre.  He was dealing with a knee injury that probably bothered him all season.  Let's see how he does when he comes back healthy next training camp. 

    Ha.   If he was somewhat injured, it's because he rushed himself back in Week 4 with Streveler starting to pick up some steam, realizing that his spot could really come in to question.  BC was awful, and there was no reason for him to jump ahead of his recovery schedule if he wasn't truly ready.  This I believe was him telling the medical staff that he's ready to go, when he probably truly wasn't.   We had the softest portion of schedule in weeks 4-8, and I'm guessing Nichols wanted those easy W's next to his name and rushed back.   Streveler would have picked up wins in those games as well, and he knew it.  Probably would have put up better numbers too!

    I agree with Tracker... the injury is between the ears.

    Normally right after the season, wouldn't the team release details of a lingering injury that hampered one of their "star" players?  Seems to happen everywhere else.  Nothing has been said about a Nichols injury to this point, which must mean he was fine!??

  14. 9 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

    What's interesting to me if indeed Nichols injury was more severe than the club was willing to share, is that they are saying an 70%-80% healthy Nichols puts us in a better position to win than a 100% healthy Streveler. Making the playoffs, winning west semi-final supports that argument?

     

    For anyone to suggest that we couldn't have beat the Riders in that game with even Bennett behind centre is nonsense.  Nichols did not "win the game".  He threw for just over 150 yards and handed the ball off.  Gotta wonder how Harris feels about Nichols potentially making twice his salary next season when all Matt does is ride his coat tails!

  15. But threw for 3 TDs and added one on the ground and 98 yards rushing.

    Nichols averaged 225 yards per game with just over 1 TD.   People can point to us being "run heavy". But Ottawa ran the ball just as much with Powell, and Harris averaged 300 a game.

    Apparently the Argos are interviewing LaPo for the HC job, so maybe this whole conversation of scheme is thrown out the window in a week or two.

    maybe a fresh set of eyes to assess the QBs is what we need this offseason rather than just saying "Matt has won us a lot of games".

  16. 11 hours ago, 17to85 said:

    Had to do more cause the D gave up more. Remember, Lapo is the coach who coaches for close games.

    So did Streveler just go rogue in Week 2 when the Bombers put up 56 points??

    LaPo can build a more creative offence, he's not a moron.  He's playing with the hand he's been dealt.. #15 behind centre limits your play calling capabilities.

  17. 6 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

    I doubt he goes under the knife this off-season. What I hope happens is he and Walters can renegotiate a restructured contract, something that is more appropriate for his level of production and more team-friendly.

    the fact that he can't even take responsibility for his poor play, and shows no accountability at times, I can't see him comprehending why Walters would be asking him to take less money.   How many times did he have his post game show chat with Knuckles & Doug Brown, and say he thought he played well, after a mediocre at best, boarding awful game at times.   Even with awful production, because he didn't throw an INT, he thought he played a great game.   The team has to look at that and think, "if he thinks he's playing well, what's it going to take to think he had a poor game??".  

  18. 34 minutes ago, JCon said:

    Nichols may not be spectacular but he wins games now. I have no problems with him relying on Harris to carry and catch out of the backfield. When Harris is involved, we tend to do better. 

    I still believe our record would have been no different had Streveler played all season.   Nichols didn't win 10 games this season, the team did.   Some, they won in spite of Nichols efforts.

    Fact remains that he only played 2 relatively solid games all season.   When you're hoping he has a good game, but the percentages say he more likely won't, then you've got a problem.   Averaging 220 yards passing per game isn't going to get us to the next level when there's even more focus on the running game next season.

  19. 3 hours ago, JCon said:

    I got them from CFL.ca

    This is what I'm looking at:

    Date Game Opponent Completions Attempts  
    Jun-14
    1 EDM 15 28  
    Jun-22
    2 MTL 22 28  
    Jun-29
    3 HAM 17 30  
    Games 1 to 3   54 86 63%
    07-Jul
    4 BC 3 5  
    Jul-27
    7 TOR 1 1  
    Aug-17
    10 OTT 4 5  
    Aug-25
    11 CGY 1 1  
    09-Feb
    12 SSK 1 1  
    09-Aug
    13 SSK 10 20  
    10-May
    17 OTT 0 1  
    Oct-13
    18 SSK 3 5  
    11-Mar
    21 EDM 9 15  
    11-Nov
    22 SSK 0 2  
    Nov-18
    23 CGY 0 1  
    The rest including playoffs 32 57 56%
    Total     86 143 60%

    if we're looking at numbers... the one I'd like to point out is, when the cards were on the table, and it counted most:  46.9% & 156.  80+ of which we're in the last couple drives when they finally tried to go downfield.

    Nichols has been playing the dink & dunk since 2016, and his stats have largely been propped up on the shoulders of Andrew Harris.  No other QB in the league relies so heavily on their RB as a receiver, and once the league adjusted and started spying Harris, Nichols passing production tanked.  The fact that people want to point at the winning record of the team and say keep Nichols because of it, to me, aren't really seeing the big picture.  Nichols has operated a dumbed down offence that's built around Harris.   A more mobile QB with a stronger arm opens up what LaPo can scheme, and I think that's what needs to happen next year.  If Nichols can't operate a more wide open offence, then he's not the guy.

  20. 4 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

    Nichols missed a wide open Adams on a designed and practiced play in the same game, when it mattered most. He's got 6 years more experience, was warmed up, wasn't throwing his first pass of the day or his first pass in a playoff game. Gotta hold the vet to a higher standard than the rookie.

    can use the excuse of the wind when it's Nichols, but Streveler misses the pass and it's because he's not accurate.   Give me a freaking break.  Coming off the bench cold, throwing his first pass of the day in breezy conditions... how are you supposed to have perfect feel.  And he just missed that pass by a stride.

    As far as whoever said we should trade Nichols... once a TO or MTL catch wind that he's being shopped around, why would they pony up much at all?  If the Bombers are considering moving him, it's cap related and they'd be likely to cut him anyways.   Can't see anyone giving up anything substantial to get him.  What did we get him for, a 7th round pick?   We would get maybe a 4th rounder at best, and probably be asked to retain some of the salary.  

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