3rd & 1

Certainly any team is beatable this Season in the CFL. It wouldn’t shock me if Toronto beat Calgary after losing to Montreal. However I disagree with the statement Collaros is terrible. Last nights game was only the 4th game he has started in SK after game 1.5 concussion. He looks to be getting better each week where as Nichols looks to be slipping some what. 
The back to back Labour Day Classic. Will more than likely be split. The crowds will play a huge part for the home teams. 
Im going to try and start an agreement between Manitoba and SK to stop calling the rematch the Banjo Bowl. I lived in Vancouver for 7 years and the fans out there think it’s incredible that 2 Prairie teams agree to use that derogatory name. They honestly think Winnipeg fans are basically admitting to being mongoloids along with their Rival Rider fans. To me Winnipeg and SK are the CFL and really don’t need that negative publicity. We need to collectively just call the head to head series the back to back labour day series. ( or something like that)
 

Certainly any team is beatable this Season in the CFL. It wouldn’t shock me if Toronto beat Calgary after losing to Montreal. However I disagree with the statement Collaros is terrible. Last nights game was only the 4th game he has started in SK after game 1.5 concussion. He looks to be getting better each week where as Nichols looks to be slipping some what. 
The back to back Labour Day Classic. Will more than likely be split. The crowds will play a huge part for the home teams. 
Im going to try and start an agreement between Manitoba and SK to stop calling the rematch the Banjo Bowl. I lived in Vancouver for 7 years and the fans out there think it’s incredible that 2 Prairie teams agree to use that derogatory name. They honestly think Winnipeg fans are basically admitting to being mongoloids along with their Rival Rider fans. To me Winnipeg and SK are the CFL and really don’t need that negative publicity. We need to collectively just call the head to head series the back to back labour day series. ( or something like that)
 

Not but a few days ago the sun was shining on the Bombers and Bomber fans alike.
The green team was dealing with the dismissal of a very good Receiver. 
Bomber fans felt it was a disaster, a tire fire, a train wreck was happening in SK. The world was a wonderful place in Capital of Manitoba. 
Then week 10 happened and the world came crashing down. 
The Bombers didn’t look anything like the team that won the previous games. Then the dreaded Riders looked like Giant Killers. Handing Calgary their 1st loss of the season and giving Bo a few bruises along the way. Plus Collaros looked like he was finding the form he had not so long ago. 
What a difference a week makes!

You can tell when you are disscussing a football topic with adults. As well as the juvenile. You know the kind. They don’t have anything of consiquence to add. So they would rather call names. The type of fan that brings a bad name to their fan group. 
When a person grows up they understand how much more they can learn by being respectful. 
I just finished complimenting the Winnipeg Bluebombers. Who by the way haven’t won anything at this point. I wrote in a respectful manner. Your reply to this discussion that started with respect and a compliment is to name call. 
I sure hope other Bomber don’t reply in this manner. In fact I hope they speak up for what is right.
 
 
 

You can tell when you are disscussing a football topic with adults. As well as the juvenile. You know the kind. They don’t have anything of consiquence to add. So they would rather call names. The type of fan that brings a bad name to their fan group. 
When a person grows up they understand how much more they can learn by being respectful. 
I just finished complimenting the Winnipeg Bluebombers. Who by the way haven’t won anything at this point. I wrote in a respectful manner. Your reply to this discussion that started with respect and a compliment is to name call. 
I sure hope other Bomber don’t reply in this manner. In fact I hope they speak up for what is right.
 
 
 

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just going to state a couple things and then let the Bomber fans discuss. 
Bombers GM Kyle Walters tried to get Kevin Glen for a penny and a song. Telling Glen the Bombers are not willing to spend the kind of money Kevin wanted for a second QB. Walters told Glenn the money is needed elsewhere. Then they lost Glenn to the EE who stepped up for Kevin's services. Even though the EE are paying Reilly over $500K.  More than the Bombers are paying Nichols.                              So now all of a sudden the sky is falling and Walters pays even more money for Durant than Glen wanted. When it's as plain as day the Glen has been the better QB these past few seasons. Glen would have been a better Bomber than Durant. For several reasons! Most importantly Glen would have known his place on the team.  Where as now if I’m Nichols I’m thinking just a minute here. Everyone in the orginization is telling me this is my team. Yet you just signed a guy who has stated over and over that unequivocally he still wants to be a starter!!!!  Not once have the word back up been used by Darian Durant. It is not in his Vocabulary at this point in his career. It's only been other people’s words.  Darian and LaPolice had a working relationship in the past. If I’m Nichols I’m thinking… What a croque! Im going to be thinking what's really going on. They passed on Glen but went with Durant who wants to be a starter. There is no doubt that psychologically it's going to effected some of Nichols decision making both on and off the field. Bombers. Walters made a mistake signing Durant; monatarily, psychologically and of field QB support  (lack there of)
On top of all of this. During Durants time in SK. Durant publically stated on several occasions his dislike of Bomber fans. Durant stated how much he disliked Bomber fans when Bomber fans covered the Saskatchewan #1 highway sign that welcomes you to Saskatchewan with “Welcome to Swaggerville”. You could see it and hear it in his voice. Durant hated everything to do with Winnipeg. He never ever spoke that way about any other teams fans!
I'm sorry but Glen has a better arm than Durant. Glen is a team guy where as Darian is a me guy. Winnipeg now has a QB that figures he's going to push for the starting job at camp. 
I honestly think this signing will not be a good one.
OK discuss  
 

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just going to state a couple things and then let the Bomber fans discuss. 
Bombers GM Kyle Walters tried to get Kevin Glen for a penny and a song. Telling Glen the Bombers are not willing to spend the kind of money Kevin wanted for a second QB. Walters told Glenn the money is needed elsewhere. Then they lost Glenn to the EE who stepped up for Kevin's services. Even though the EE are paying Reilly over $500K.  More than the Bombers are paying Nichols.                              So now all of a sudden the sky is falling and Walters pays even more money for Durant than Glen wanted. When it's as plain as day the Glen has been the better QB these past few seasons. Glen would have been a better Bomber than Durant. For several reasons! Most importantly Glen would have known his place on the team.  Where as now if I’m Nichols I’m thinking just a minute here. Everyone in the orginization is telling me this is my team. Yet you just signed a guy who has stated over and over that unequivocally he still wants to be a starter!!!!  Not once have the word back up been used by Darian Durant. It is not in his Vocabulary at this point in his career. It's only been other people’s words.  Darian and LaPolice had a working relationship in the past. If I’m Nichols I’m thinking… What a croque! Im going to be thinking what's really going on. They passed on Glen but went with Durant who wants to be a starter. There is no doubt that psychologically it's going to effected some of Nichols decision making both on and off the field. Bombers. Walters made a mistake signing Durant; monatarily, psychologically and of field QB support  (lack there of)
On top of all of this. During Durants time in SK. Durant publically stated on several occasions his dislike of Bomber fans. Durant stated how much he disliked Bomber fans when Bomber fans covered the Saskatchewan #1 highway sign that welcomes you to Saskatchewan with “Welcome to Swaggerville”. You could see it and hear it in his voice. Durant hated everything to do with Winnipeg. He never ever spoke that way about any other teams fans!
I'm sorry but Glen has a better arm than Durant. Glen is a team guy where as Darian is a me guy. Winnipeg now has a QB that figures he's going to push for the starting job at camp. 
I honestly think this signing will not be a good one.
OK discuss  
 

I'm not trying to start anything. I'm just going to state a couple things and then let the Bomber fans discuss. 
Bombers GM Kyle Walters tried to get Kevin Glen for a penny and a song. Telling Glen the Bombers are not willing to spend the kind of money Kevin wanted for a second QB. Walters told Glenn the money is needed elsewhere. Then they lost Glenn to the EE who stepped up for Kevin's services. Even though the EE are paying Reilly over $500K.  More than the Bombers are paying Nichols.                              So now all of a sudden the sky is falling and Walters pays even more money for Durant than Glen wanted. When it's as plain as day the Glen has been the better QB these past few seasons. Glen would have been a better Bomber than Durant. For several reasons! Most importantly Glen would have known his place on the team.  Where as now if I’m Nichols I’m thinking just a minute here. Everyone in the orginization is telling me this is my team. Yet you just signed a guy who has stated over and over that unequivocally he still wants to be a starter!!!!  Not once have the word back up been used by Darian Durant. It is not in his Vocabulary at this point in his career. It's only been other people’s words.  Darian and LaPolice had a working relationship in the past. If I’m Nichols I’m thinking… What a croque! Im going to be thinking what's really going on. They passed on Glen but went with Durant who wants to be a starter. There is no doubt that psychologically it's going to effected some of Nichols decision making both on and off the field. Bombers. Walters made a mistake signing Durant; monatarily, psychologically and of field QB support  (lack there of)
On top of all of this. During Durants time in SK. Durant publically stated on several occasions his dislike of Bomber fans. Durant stated how much he disliked Bomber fans when Bomber fans covered the Saskatchewan #1 highway sign that welcomes you to Saskatchewan with “Welcome to Swaggerville”. You could see it and hear it in his voice. Durant hated everything to do with Winnipeg. He never ever spoke that way about any other teams fans!
I'm sorry but Glen has a better arm than Durant. Glen is a team guy where as Darian is a me guy. Winnipeg now has a QB that figures he's going to push for the starting job at camp. 
I honestly think this signing will not be a good one.
OK discuss  
 

I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I’m not a troll. I don’t say deragarory things about people or teams. I’m an avid fan of CFL football. I am a Rider fan but I’m not a fricken troll  
I have an open mind. Remember that an open mind is the essence of Intellect  
I admire well coached and teams that play well
when someone asks a question. Don’t try and make them sound dumb. I have no idea who or what Migs is. I post on here now and then. As well as 3 Down Nation and Rod Pedersen. 
Come on Bomber fans. It’s good to have sound, logical opposing comments now and then. It’s not good for anyone to be disrespectful to anyone or any team or player. 

I'm not Migs. But if Migs is a good person than we may have something in common. I'm just a football fan who loves any kind of football. I enjoy good, clean, football discussions. I enjoy Witty cometary and those who are loyal to their favourite teams. Winning or losing. In the last few years Bomber fans and Rider fans have had their fare share of not so great seasons.  
I respect the Bomber Orginization and 99% of the Bomber fans. I believe that Manitoba and Saskatchewan are the heart of the CFL
i don't believe in any kind of harm should happen to anyone for simply cheering for a team.  be it on line or physical.  Some forget it's a game, not a turf war. I believe we should wear our team colours proudly. Not like they are gang colours.
 
as long as everyone respects each other it can be a whole lot of fun
 

I mentioned right after the game on a different thread that it was a hard fought game. I know the score dosent show that for the Riders but they were playing hard.  I also mentioned that last week the green coaches had the guys prepaired better than the blue coaches and this week the blue coaches had the guys way better prepaired than the green coaches did
What many fans don't understand is how difficult it is for any team to play in a loud and hostile stadium. Last week it was loud and hostile. This week it was loud and hostile way over the top. Both the voice of the Bombers and Doug Brown used misdirection to get Bomber fans more than just upset or angry. I'm sure I saw some frothing at the mouth? Take the anger of losing a football game and displace it somehow. This was the 1st time this new Riders team faced this type of adversity. Last year no one paid attention as they were not a threat. Different story this year.  It's been a long, long time since I saw Bomber fans jacked up like yesterday  I think it was 2007 when this kind of rivalry was as alive like it was yesterday. I almost wish the games were reversed and SK hosted the rematch. The intensity at the rematch after getting beat pretty darn good. Combined with Winnipeg media making something out of nothing and drawing the rath of the Bomber fan away from the team and sicking them on the Riders was masterful. That's how you displace the anger of losing. You use all the anger and hatred already built up and mix it with words like cheating, faking and despicable. Using Bomber fan gullibility and turn all of that pure evil back towards the green team that beat you. At the same time take it completely away from your team that was honestly beat in all facets of the game. BRILLIANT!!! It worked like a charm. Winnipeg media should be proud of themselves  
Winnipeg goes on a buy now and the Riders face Hamilton. Then there is still another 7 games to go after that. As long as all QBs stay healthy in the West, it should be a good finish. I respect Bomber football but as a Rider fan you still have to allow me to give you a good but non name calling jab now and then. I've had my fair share of jabs coming my way at IGF. In fact the last game I attended at IGF was last year. I had won an all expenses paid game for the Riders Labor Day rematch. My Hotel room was a great room downtown Winnipeg. Well let me tell you what an experience that was Downtown! WOW! I started to think someone was playing a practical joke on me. I'm going to skip the details of my down town experience as I wouldn't come out of that sounding like a very nice person and I am. So instead I will tell you about my experience at IGF 2016 in a well written somewhat dramatized on line short story.  After what seemed like an endless limo ride to the game (included in trip) I ended up sitting beside an older gentleman with some extremely silver hair. He was wearing a Bombers hat but his silver hair was sticking out all around. I also noticed he had on a big clunky ring. Upon further review, I could see it was an Actual Grey Cup ring. So I asked him if he ever coached or played in the NFL or CFL? He nodded yes and in a shaky voice he said; I did a bit of both, but I played much more. So I asked him about the Grey Cup ring he was wearing. He perked up a bit and in a somewhat deeper proud but still shaky voice he said;  I was a 4th year CFL starter the year we won the Grey Cup! So because of his advanced age I had no idea of who he was with or how many decades ago it was when he won that Grey Cup ring. So I asked him how many years ago it was and how many Grey Cups has his team won since he last played? His Voice stopped shaking momentarily and he said .. "BOY"  I GOT THIS RING AND AN ALL STAR NOMINATION ON THE LAST BLUE BOMBER TEAM TO WIN THE GREY CUP!!!! 
come on guys, good clean fun. No name calling.  Like Coach OShea said. Clean

I'm not Migs. But if Migs is a good person than we may have something in common. I'm just a football fan who loves any kind of football. I enjoy good, clean, football discussions. I enjoy Witty cometary and those who are loyal to their favourite teams. Winning or losing. In the last few years Bomber fans and Rider fans have had their fare share of not so great seasons.  
I respect the Bomber Orginization and 99% of the Bomber fans. I believe that Manitoba and Saskatchewan are the heart of the CFL
i don't believe in any kind of harm should happen to anyone for simply cheering for a team.  be it on line or physical.  Some forget it's a game, not a turf war. I believe we should wear our team colours proudly. Not like they are gang colours.
 
as long as everyone respects each other it can be a whole lot of fun
 

I'm not Migs. But if Migs is a good person than we may have something in common. I'm just a football fan who loves any kind of football. I enjoy good, clean, football discussions. I enjoy Witty cometary and those who are loyal to their favourite teams. Winning or losing. In the last few years Bomber fans and Rider fans have had their fare share of not so great seasons.  
I respect the Bomber Orginization and 99% of the Bomber fans. I believe that Manitoba and Saskatchewan are the heart of the CFL
i don't believe in any kind of harm should happen to anyone for simply cheering for a team.  be it on line or physical.  Some forget it's a game, not a turf war. I believe we should wear our team colours proudly. Not like they are gang colours.
 
as long as everyone respects each other it can be a whole lot of fun
 

I mentioned right after the game on a different thread that it was a hard fought game. I know the score dosent show that for the Riders but they were playing hard.  I also mentioned that last week the green coaches had the guys prepaired better than the blue coaches and this week the blue coaches had the guys way better prepaired than the green coaches did
What many fans don't understand is how difficult it is for any team to play in a loud and hostile stadium. Last week it was loud and hostile. This week it was loud and hostile way over the top. Both the voice of the Bombers and Doug Brown used misdirection to get Bomber fans more than just upset or angry. I'm sure I saw some frothing at the mouth? Take the anger of losing a football game and displace it somehow. This was the 1st time this new Riders team faced this type of adversity. Last year no one paid attention as they were not a threat. Different story this year.  It's been a long, long time since I saw Bomber fans jacked up like yesterday  I think it was 2007 when this kind of rivalry was as alive like it was yesterday. I almost wish the games were reversed and SK hosted the rematch. The intensity at the rematch after getting beat pretty darn good. Combined with Winnipeg media making something out of nothing and drawing the rath of the Bomber fan away from the team and sicking them on the Riders was masterful. That's how you displace the anger of losing. You use all the anger and hatred already built up and mix it with words like cheating, faking and despicable. Using Bomber fan gullibility and turn all of that pure evil back towards the green team that beat you. At the same time take it completely away from your team that was honestly beat in all facets of the game. BRILLIANT!!! It worked like a charm. Winnipeg media should be proud of themselves  
Winnipeg goes on a buy now and the Riders face Hamilton. Then there is still another 7 games to go after that. As long as all QBs stay healthy in the West, it should be a good finish. I respect Bomber football but as a Rider fan you still have to allow me to give you a good but non name calling jab now and then. I've had my fair share of jabs coming my way at IGF. In fact the last game I attended at IGF was last year. I had won an all expenses paid game for the Riders Labor Day rematch. My Hotel room was a great room downtown Winnipeg. Well let me tell you what an experience that was Downtown! WOW! I started to think someone was playing a practical joke on me. I'm going to skip the details of my down town experience as I wouldn't come out of that sounding like a very nice person and I am. So instead I will tell you about my experience at IGF 2016 in a well written somewhat dramatized on line short story.  After what seemed like an endless limo ride to the game (included in trip) I ended up sitting beside an older gentleman with some extremely silver hair. He was wearing a Bombers hat but his silver hair was sticking out all around. I also noticed he had on a big clunky ring. Upon further review, I could see it was an Actual Grey Cup ring. So I asked him if he ever coached or played in the NFL or CFL? He nodded yes and in a shaky voice he said; I did a bit of both, but I played much more. So I asked him about the Grey Cup ring he was wearing. He perked up a bit and in a somewhat deeper proud but still shaky voice he said;  I was a 4th year CFL starter the year we won the Grey Cup! So because of his advanced age I had no idea of who he was with or how many decades ago it was when he won that Grey Cup ring. So I asked him how many years ago it was and how many Grey Cups has his team won since he last played? His Voice stopped shaking momentarily and he said .. "BOY"  I GOT THIS RING AND AN ALL STAR NOMINATION ON THE LAST BLUE BOMBER TEAM TO WIN THE GREY CUP!!!! 
come on guys, good clean fun. No name calling.  Like Coach OShea said. Clean

Watching the game it's been a hard fought battle. 
This time O'Shea had the guys ready and the ball bounced in the Bombers direction. 
I was hoping it was going to be closer in the 4th but Winnipeg deserved this one. 
Good game Bombers 
signed
Rider fan

Watching the game it's been a hard fought battle. 
This time O'Shea had the guys ready and the ball bounced in the Bombers direction. 
I was hoping it was going to be closer in the 4th but Winnipeg deserved this one. 
Good game Bombers 
signed
Rider fan

It would seem Bomber fans have a very short memory. Do you remember a Bombers DC named Greg Marshall? 2000 - 2004. Greg was notorious for having a Defensive player take a knee for just about anything. I remember a game where the competing offence was finally putting together a drive at normal speed in the 3rd Qtr.  Greg had a lineman take a knee just to disrupt the timing of the offence. Do you not think O'Shea would use this if he needed too. Of course he would
Bomber fans are smart. Doug Brown started this to take all eyes off the real issues. Like 4 turnovers for one. Or a first Qtr that the Bombers were not prepared. With one small insignificant thing of the game Put into print using words like despicable. Doug Brown has taken away all eyes on the fact that O'Shea was out Coached in this game  in all facets of the game. The Green team beat O'Shea at his own game. That's what Bomber fans should be looking at and discussing. Not something that's been around for 30 years or more. 

It would seem Bomber fans have a very short memory. Do you remember a Bombers DC named Greg Marshall? 2000 - 2004. Greg was notorious for having a Defensive player take a knee for just about anything. I remember a game where the competing offence was finally putting together a drive at normal speed in the 3rd Qtr.  Greg had a lineman take a knee just to disrupt the timing of the offence. Do you not think O'Shea would use this if he needed too. Of course he would
Bomber fans are smart. Doug Brown started this to take all eyes off the real issues. Like 4 turnovers for one. Or a first Qtr that the Bombers were not prepared. With one small insignificant thing of the game Put into print using words like despicable. Doug Brown has taken away all eyes on the fact that O'Shea was out Coached in this game  in all facets of the game. The Green team beat O'Shea at his own game. That's what Bomber fans should be looking at and discussing. Not something that's been around for 30 years or more. 

There was nothing reckless about that tackle. It was a clean grab. With the QB trying to escape and the defender trying to tackle. That's why the play went the way it did. If that would have been a Bomber or even a Toronto defender tackling Harris. Nothing would have been said here.  Because it's a defender from SASK that is the only reason anything is being said. If there was anything wrong with that play as in illegal or dirty. TSN color would have discussed that in the time it took Harris to leave the field. 

As somewhat of a fan of the Green and White. I can assure you that you do not want Chamblin as your DC. That's what killed SK last year. Chamblin's ego was so big he dumped Richie and he ran the defence himself. The Riders Defense was like swiss cheese. There were holes everywhere and they couldnt stop a thing. Plus the tackling was piss poor! Richie won a Grey Cup in 2007 and 2013 as the DC in SK. So he does know his stuff

As somewhat of a fan of the Green and White. I can assure you that you do not want Chamblin as your DC. That's what killed SK last year. Chamblin's ego was so big he dumped Richie and he ran the defence himself. The Riders Defense was like swiss cheese. There were holes everywhere and they couldnt stop a thing. Plus the tackling was piss poor! Richie won a Grey Cup in 2007 and 2013 as the DC in SK. So he does know his stuff

Now that we have seen a couple weeks of play. I am even more concerned for the Bombers and fans alike. Im sorry people Willy is not an Elite QB and shouldnt be paid as one. Im sure Im going to be hated upon but I stick to what I wrote above and would like to add that Willy looks like a back up QB right now. Not a starter

Actually they did state that. 
I then countered with the 2015 Harris stats that shattered all of Willy's best stats. Harris is a great QB and is miles ahead of Willy. He proved it last night in Edmonton going up against the GC Champs. Plus I can garuntee you that he isn't getting anywhere near 400K in Ottawa. The brain trust in Ottawa is out thinking the Bombers front office. Ottawa has last year's MOP at QB and they still go out and get a better QB than Willy and the future of the club for probably less than 50% of what the Bombers are paying Willy. Sometimes you wonder how one team can be so smart while another team looks so lethargic in that department. 

Actually they did state that. 
I then countered with the 2015 Harris stats that shattered all of Willy's best stats. Harris is a great QB and is miles ahead of Willy. He proved it last night in Edmonton going up against the GC Champs. Plus I can garuntee you that he isn't getting anywhere near 400K in Ottawa. The brain trust in Ottawa is out thinking the Bombers front office. Ottawa has last year's MOP at QB and they still go out and get a better QB than Willy and the future of the club for probably less than 50% of what the Bombers are paying Willy. Sometimes you wonder how one team can be so smart while another team looks so lethargic in that department. 

Actually they did state that. 
I then countered with the 2015 Harris stats that shattered all of Willy's best stats. Harris is a great QB and is miles ahead of Willy. He proved it last night in Edmonton going up against the GC Champs. Plus I can garuntee you that he isn't getting anywhere near 400K in Ottawa. The brain trust in Ottawa is out thinking the Bombers front office. Ottawa has last year's MOP at QB and they still go out and get a better QB than Willy and the future of the club for probably less than 50% of what the Bombers are paying Willy. Sometimes you wonder how one team can be so smart while another team looks so lethargic in that department.