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I would suggest Collaros is 1 hit away from being finished. He’s not a spring chicken so if they think Barry can be the future, perhaps it’s best to let him develop on the PR. 5 years on the neg list to me means they gonna give him a chance to develop unless he truly is just a systems QB. Next game id give Zach and the starters 2 series. Strev can have the rest of the first half then Wilson and Barry can finish it off. maybe even give Barry and Wilson a series with the starters also.

Are lots of you guys going down to camp to watch cuz last week the big topic was how coverage is so poor that we don’t know what’s going on. I’m not trying to start anything here. Perhaps a bit of a devils advocate post tho but how could you be upset with cuts if we don’t get any coverage? Are we basing this on 1 pre season game that was streamed online with basically zero replays or even a decent camera position? Just wondering. Cuz reality is guys who stood out maybe weren’t doing what their actual assignment was. We don’t know because we aren’t told anything. This is all based on tweets by Derek Taylor I guess? Cuz I don’t see much in the papers or online about any of the new guys really.

how does playing 2 import DT's negate continuity?...with whom?....You play WJ/HABA/lets say Garbutt..Fox/Lets say Woods....and toss in Schmeckle as he the only viable Canadian available to us now who has possible upside and isnt a dead weight with none (Jake) how is that not continuity if you roll with that? There is no reason for us to possibly start 3 Nats on defence now, with 6 on offence when we dont...or wont roster anyone to take advantage of the flexibility?...We should not start any more than 8 Canadians at most right now....even that isn't really doing anything to make us better in all truthfuness I can't think of one player in this regime in last 4..5 yrs who came in and pushed a vet out of his starting spot, and off the roster...even our pluggers who only saw work on teams were never really ousted either....corret me if I am wrong, but save for when there was absolutely nobody returning at a position nobody new has ever been rewarded with a spot... well...that right there is reason enough to use his and Biggies cashola on Kongbo....fits a need...can play inside in certain sets....we all know he can play....and I bet a return here would totally be the thing that gets him back to where he was....Throw Jakes salary at him too and park his fat buttocks on the PR just in case....and let Schemck see if he can amount to anything against other teams starters while in rotation...Jake will offer us nothing next yr...so why even go down that road...Kingbo and possibly Schmeck could tho....so the time is now to find out...forward thinking and planning is what keeps you on top of the mountain....not relying on past glory and players in their golden yrs

Damn...

Darrin Bauming @DarrinBauming · 1h Mike O’Shea says Cam Lawson may return later this season. He’s likely to miss more than six games.

Wilson seems to be more CFL ready to me, not sure they have room for more than one back up. Though with the way Strevy plays it won't surprise me if he gets banged up at which point we'll need another QB body at some point.

Not soo much but it is a factor. Heavier sloppy guys will lose more during the game, endurance is more its own thing. I’ve seen big belly guys with surprising motor. It does cause injury issues though. All that weight is hard on the joints. The difference in wear with just 20 lbs on the hips knees high ankle low back is extreme. he’s got sloppy weight especially on the torso, but he does have a big frame. He doesn’t need to lose massive amounts. Less than 10% total. I think for next years camp he will be pretty close to optimal.

I thought Barriere stunk and I won’t be surprised if they cut him, but I also won’t be surprised or upset if they PR him. The most valuable position, the toughest to learn and we as fans have the quickest trigger finger? They believed in him enough to wait 5+ years, if their evaluation is that there’s more to work with than what one half of preseason football suggests, I’m okay with that.

Anyone know the nature of all of these injuries? I would assume the new turf isn't to blame since a bunch seemed to happen before camp, and Lawson's happened on the road.

After his one breakout pre-season game, Pigrome looked like a less talented Pigrome.

Barriere looks like a much less talented Pigrome.

I don’t get the argument at all, to be honest. People use an open competition with no veteran incumbents to suggest young guys can beat out veterans. It’s a weird take.

Backup QBs are exempt from the National/American count. So having a third string Canadian or Global QB does nothing to help the American depth at another position. The only place a team would benefit from a National QB would be as a starter ala Nathan Rourke

People like to point to the Jeffcoats or Schoens as evidence that this regime isn't afraid to insert rookies when they show well enough. I often wonder though, if either of those guys had been blocked by an aging veteran (or inferior Canadian) instead of competing for a spot that happened to be open, would we have ever uncovered them? Like if Walters had re-signed Adams, does Dalton end up lighting it up for another team after being cut in training camp?

My two cents are this for week one. I believe barring further injuries that will be our starting D-line as Fatty listed or very close, and as GCn20 listed Cole/Kramdi being 1a/1b. Kramdi IMO will probably "listed" as the starter.

Yeah given that some linebackers showed well in preseason one I'd bet Cole is Sam and we get wilson/whoever at the other spot.

I think Kramdi likely rotates in and out with Cole starting as well.

Don’t think Kramdi will start. I think it’ll be Cole at Sam. But with ford, 3 ol, rb, 2 wrs we will be ok. As long as Brady is ok

The conspiracy theorist in me would like to believe that we 6 gamed Miller to be an assistant coach last year, and that we are doing the same with Biggie this year, but there is that little pesky rule that 6 gamed players can only attend the building for the purposes of medical and are not allowed to be on the practice field or in team meetings during that time. Naturally there are some pretty easy ways to circumvent some of that, but unfortunately not a whole lot.

Unlikely scenario, you know nothing like that will happen as it negates continuity and chemistry, 3 DT's in rotation is adequate, probably Fox, Schmeckle and Jake to start the season with another import on the PR. Haba and Garbutt taking over from Jeffcoat with an import DE hopefully developing on the PR.

I'd also like on file, 'Just make the damn playoffs, make the damn show then damn well win it!'

and we dont even have to start both....personally I would let Clericus be the 5th WR and start 7 on offence, and go all import on defense.....start Ford as I believe he a baller but not declre an Nat on the defensive side

Ford at CB and Kramdi at LB = 2 Canadian starters = we don't have to start a Canadian DT.

I 100 percent expect a guy or two who stood out and could really develop into something will get his pink slip...and we will keep an incumbant...or a player that doesnt serve us well on the PR...because thats what we consistently do for yrs....and 2024 likely ends in a similar....yet different fashion of dissapointment which would be totally avoidable...I hope otherwise...but based on the past....and now some these injuries....I will expect more the ame until I see a reason not to

seeing as we coud conceivably not even have to field a started at DT being a Canadian would make way more sense, and we would be better served and stronger to have 2 import DT's who are impactful and a Canadian back up to both for rest/ and injury replacement and fill out the canadian component of the roster....now....big question is...what route does the Coach take, and has he learned from past how skimping on the dline via it be with the talent available, or the mumber in rotation has hurt us badly oh yes....I thought someone else went down as well I've already have accepted it...that will be more the same....with no real reasoning behind it other than just Osh neing Osh....sadly