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Osh as GM is a scary thought. What a disaster that would be. We'll be back in the dark 2013-15 era fast... dark times. But now that you said it, it is a considration I never thought would happen. Now, I can be prepared (shiver) if that happens. https://giphy.com/gifs/want-tjwzClJM6fyEw

Robert Redford is gone at 89. Great actor. Just by watching his films he seemed like a geniunely nice guy & was the kind of actor who appealed to everyone. My favourite was All The President's Men. May Robert now Rest In Peace. https://media.tenor.com/X4H0T0VxgokAAAA1/robert-redford-robert.webp

So explain why guys who were in camp are doing better than the departed Bridges.... that right there blows your entire argument out of the water.... cause those guys outperformed Bridges in camp too. You just refuse to admit that the coaches are fallible. It's OK. You know 2018ish I too was of the opinion that walters was more of an issue that Oshea, but Kyle Walters showed himself to be a proactive gm who could build a damn good roster whereas Oshea maintained his at times bonkers roster building and usage mindset. Given that we've also heard lots of rumors about walters leaving and Oshea being gm, is it a stretch to think oshea has a large say in players brought in these days? I dunno, I just know our roster usage is subpar and because of that issue it's really hard to judge what this team actually does have.

Toronto, Hamilton, Montreal, Calgary, Ottawa, and Saskatchewan all signing players in the last couple of days trying to get better, BC brought in a few new bodies last week as well. Winnipeg is all status quo! 3-7 in our last 10 games and hosting the grey cup and zero sense of urgency to try something different when things aren’t working. At this point we’re a threat to not even make the playoffs in any capacity.

Thank God, Strev completed the pass. Could you imagine if he one hopped it?

Well, yes and no. All our starters are getting a free ride because they aren't getting their ass kicked by coaches, Hoiwever, the coaches are in a bad place because our depth sucks and the best motivator is playing time and we have garbage sitting behind almost every position on the field and all the players know it and are not fearing losing their jobs. Anyone who has coached this game knows that players without competition are hard to keep on track. If this wasn't a GC hosting year about the best thing that could happen is we just put the guys out there that will go the extra mile despite talent level, but that would likely result in worse losses than what we have. Backups are backups for a reason and there isn't enough talent behind some of our gross underperformers for heart and will to make up the difference. If we had the quality of depth that we should have guys could have/should have been sat down and made to earn their starting positions back by refocusing and winning it back. RIght now we have many starters that are in by default.

Doesn't look planned but it looks like both the coaches and players recognized what was happening. This video (11:20 mark) shows one Hamilton defender briefly stop near Wheatfall and then keeps going towards the sideline (maybe thinking the other Ticat right behind him will be covering the receiver?). Once both guys are going past him, Wheatfall starts waving to Strevy, who also saw that Wheatfall was wide open. At the 11:30 mark, there's a sideline view showing Osh also trying to get Strevy's attention.

In summary, all our depth sucks worse than all our starters so starters get a free ride for underperforming cuz of Walters.

Fair enough. I just think that bringing back your marquee receiver when medically cleared is kind of a really odd thing to criticize. Walters and our AGMs/scouts did a terrible job of evaluating FA talent for sure.

We tried to make up talent difference in receivers signing Mtchell (130k), Sterns and white 105k, and adding Logan. On defense we added Vaughtner to strength the dline and Jones for Lbs, none of which worked out because once again we went for the perceived bargains. Which was my point we didnt really strengthen anything

Walters did a terrible job this offseason and our depth is crap. You are out to lunch if you think anyone currently on our roster in a backup role or camp cut was a difference maker. It was a garbage year for recruitment and offseason signings and yea when that happens guys get pencilled in fast. Your shining examples above don't have anything notable behind them. Wilson is better than Woodby or Ayers, Tony Jones is better than J.Jones, Kolo sucks and so does Eli, Grousing about what we are starting without acknowledging there is crap behind them is a little misleading and it is absolute nonsense to think that any coach, MOS included, said we good don't sign any good players for camp competition. Just a historically bad take there. Every coach ever wants every position hotly contested in camp. Had we cut a bunch of talent you might have a point but we didn't.

I find when someone posts statements like this and similar ones on the worldwide web such an odd thing to postulate.

He was our 2nd best receiver in that game. Osh works off the advice of his medical team. If he wasn't good to go our athletic therapist would have shut him down. It sucks he got reinjured but it is complete nonsense to put that on anyone. The HC works off of what the medical team is telling him, and what the player is telling him. I'm done with this argument because you guys are just like puritans looking for a witch to burn on this. There is lots of stuff to complain about with MOS and the rest of the coaching staff, but this entire forum is getting far out there with the scope and reach of the complaints. It's a brutal season this year for sure, but we are starting to really reach now.

The only way things change after camp is if someone gets hurt. The stark difference in the preseason game between the #1s and #2s should have been eye opening.

?? encouraging MOS to act like a lunatic? I've seen some suggest a bit more emotion but I haven't seen anyone suggest he needs to act like a lunatic? But hey I don't read every post and see every back and forth here.

Reading this site is pretty tedious. Yes, we have coaching issues, weird personal decisions, bad drafting, and bad scouting. No, we can't turn it around this year with the players and coaches we have. Ch-ch-changes need to be made. The Canadian mafia will make those decisions in the off season as a group.

Actually it was a tire fire and the Ticats coach should have simply called a time-out.

with the off-season signings....and the lack there of too Nobody can admit that Thomas...Kolo...Wilson...T.Jones...were not cemented in as the day 1 starter....regardless what occurred in camp anyone saying otherwise and that if pushed by a newcomer...or rookie that Osh would have made the swap is just full of crap....we all knew...many of us said it....christ a couple were day 1 starters with barely any work in camp

sure... but the point is when the team looks this bad... and they claim to be a championship team, in a home GC year... it's logical to wonder why the players are getting so much time off...

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No, that's just straight puking... I never got thru all the episodes. What a disappointment. They should have followed up the careers of Harvey, Mike, Rachel & Louis in Seattle, That's what fans wanted. Instead we got something else that never even resembled the original show. It might have worked if it had a different title.

Osh writes his depth chart in pen before camp even opens. The lack of competition is at a point where it's hurting the team badly now that the superstars are aging fast.

The minds should be saying, "We need to be better" & go with that.

we good....thats why...well in the minds that are in control of this

actually....we recognized they were caught in player changing and ran a quick play before they were really set ...let alone realized where Wheatfall was.....was that a Miller call....or did Strev and Wheatfall adlib?....If I recall Wheatfall was out wide calling for pass as he saw the ticat guys racing to get set up @DTonOB maybe you can find that out for us