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Sayles is good but fox and garbutt spent lots of time on the injury report when here and quite honestly were underwhelming. I mean ppl could go back and read the posts about them towards the end and the majority felt it was time for changes there also. A few good games and a couple sacks don’t change things really. Yes our DL sucks but fox and garbutt were already here and the DL sucked then also. Why ppl pretending the DL hasn’t been an issue for 2 3 seasons. The DT position hasn’t been great since Doug brown retired. Stove was good but he’s out the league now. Left and got hurt immediately. The DEs have been crap since Jeffcoat retired. Doug brown was replaced by Jake Thomas and the other end was habba and garbutt who weren’t good here. Ppl grew tired of them quickly. The problems on DL are talent related for sure. Was last year when 3 of those Hamilton DL were here also. The DEs and DT in camp were better than our starters. They kept the wrong players out of camp. Not signing Fox Habba or Garbutt aren’t the reason our DL sucks.

Check out Hamilton's DL, just for starters

Who said he doesn’t have flaws but blaming him for everything seems ridiculous. I mean I’m pretty convinced he’s not calling D plays on game days or O plays. Someone brought up a scenario from the last game where we stuffed them then put out Jake and the 3 4 D the next play on 2nd and long. I doubt that’s O’Shea making that play call. That’s Younger. Bend but don’t break but this year they broken.

Well we've seen the same kinds of problems with multiple coordinators and the common denominator is osh... not sure why it's so hard for some people to accept that Mike O’Shea has flaws.

hey look at that we've built a Johnzo sandwich!

Plus a fine and suspension.

Yup...he be an automatic addition for sure Who you talking about?

There's no way this guy is a true Bomber fan. If he was able to get this close to O'Shea all he'd be talking about is roster management lol....

Based on ??? I mean gonna be honest guys. Most the guys you push as the next great thing end up out the league in a year. What is any of this based on? Feelings I guess.

went to the Crankshaft comic website and Riderfans have totally taken over the comments section, what a bunch of bozos.

Yeah. If he comes up, I think you need to dress him immediately. That’s a sick 6th ol, at worst. Some one probably try to scoop him on the pr too.

That’s on the D coordinator tho not O’Shea. Do you just blame O’Shea for everything and ignore the coordinators who definitely have a huge say in things and likely have a larger say in who is and isn’t playing than you think. Crazy theory. What if the problem is the coordinators aren’t very good? I mean younger gets a free ride but the D didn’t adjust the last 2 games at all. At what point is it not O’Shea and it’s the coordinator who is playing the obviously confusing to most scheme.

Calgary basically changed their entire D and are the best in the league really. It’s not about communication it’s about talent. Ours has gotten old and at the same time. You're only as strong as your weakest link and we got a few links broken right now. O’Shea needs to be forced to make some moves and if not he should be fired because who plays is on him. We have had 2 byes and are 3 and 2 now and our D players look gassed. That’s on the talent and on the guy (guys) playing them. Talk about to much moving parts? Uhh really cuz our old guys lead the team in D reps. Someone has lost the plot whether that’s O’Shea or Younger, who I think might not be innocent here. It is his D scheme after all. Despite the narrative, it’s probably younger overplaying the old guys on game days. There’s this narrative O’Shea forces him to play these guys but I’m not sure that’s based on facts. The D sucking is on the coordinator also.

Turns out you get them here and they love it. Getting them here is the issue. There’s a perception about Winnipeg that lots of us think is reasons but turns out hunting fishing and the outdoors is very popular with rich people and the younger guys who just want to play hockey and that’s it, well this is the ideal place for them. I personally don’t want players who can’t deal with the equivalent of 2 weeks really of very cold temperatures. The rest of the time is your typical northern winter. No different than Chicago Minnesota or Wisconsin. Edmonton on average is colder in the winter than we are recently (last 5 years)

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Yeah he in tough...not sure he will get PR'd elsewhere...or wait it out a bit...or just come up to get some playtime here He'd be a huge addition none the less...and could anchor a tackle spot for yrs ..well if we pay him after rookie deal

We've had great success in signing players who have played here either through being drafted or traded for. Its free agency with guys who have never played here that we struggle.

Not a FIFO guy. could be. Lions have 4 lts, he’s pencilled in no3 with an injury to decker who likely will be back in mid to late September. Could be any where from Ar to gone. Skipper likely starts, if jamarco jones backs him up manu is on the out side looking in.

Nope...takes a while to play off each other and know each guys tendencies...when it's constant switching up..prob at times you react to who used to be there and they not...its nice to have depth and guys that can play multiple spots...but maybe when needed for injury...or the odd diff look...but you can still do that anyway with same personel

Yes!!! that's a key I didn't think of....guys are thinking and not reacting it seems. That instinctive movement is not there and that millisecond to think is all it takes to be outta position or a step behind.....

Yes......it's like I said, we seem to to be missing the communication aspect....the communication has seemed to be poor......I think this is also amplifying guys being slower. It's so frustrating because on defence we have been "mostly" healthy

RB AJ Ouellette

Can't play slot

I don't know if he has the right attitude. Plus would he know the playbook? How would he adjust to the waggle?

Maybe Manu ends up here later in yr