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I would not say "no chance" , he's still highly regarded in the league. The lack of sacks also falls within how our D plays and him also having zero assistance from anyone else. The disruption and containment that he still causes will get him easily over $170 000 from some team. May not be our team but someone will pay him big for a season.

So what you're saying here is JT has been told he won't be offered a new contract? Love you, let's enjoy the offseason together.

Off season thread...

Reported that Elgersma is working out today for SF 49ers

Which is totally fine, if he's on a reasonable contract and in a more limited role. When he turns it on, he is still an absolute monster. He just doesn't have the ability to turn it on for a huge amount of snaps in a row. Especially if he sees any kind of double team. Pay him 100k base, with bonuses to go up 50k+ if he has a monster year. Make him a naturalized Canadian and rotate him as the 3rd end. He shouldn't play man run downs anyway. But in passing situations, let him go for 15-20 snaps a game at 100%. Hell, make use of him in in niche roles like when we tried to throw him the ball, or let him run off the edge and try to block kicks. Give him a guy to pair with who will take the brunt of the physical impact off on kick rushing etc.

There could be any number of things going on right now that are behind closed doors (as they should be). Maybe we were the very first team to start approaching players and coaches alike... Planting seeds for next year. We have absolutely no way of knowing.

My guess is the Bombers like WJ for his off field role with the club, sort of a win/win for both of them but not sure that offsets his salary and on field production.

IF we come up with the same results as last season...I think it's safe to say it's happening....We don't want to be late to the table and end up with the type of fa signings we had in 25'...There had to be some heavy early gm work by other clubs ....most of the prime signings seemed to be lined up before fa and most of the good players were committed or gone immediately when fa opened....leaving us with the scraps....Logan and Mitchell come to mind

Elgersma worked out for the Niners today, according to 3DN...

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No chance he will get paid 200k by any one else. even his 2023 campaign was heavily padded by the first month of the season where he had 6 of his 11 sacks. Then he had 8 games with 0 sacks and 4 tackles mid season. And that is his best season in the last 5.

Let someone else do it then.

There's absolutely no way Willie plays for 100k. Almost nobody makes less than that now. Someone will offer him closer to 200 if we don't

100k tops. Maybe incentives if he returns to form in production

We're going to find out.

How do you know this is what's happening?

I begrudgingly and angrily agree. 🙂

As crappy as this was, Younger had a pathetic D-line and linebackers, so I think he ought to be given a mulligan for 2025. What self-respecting OC would want to come to the Bombers with O'Shea's favouritism and mule-headedness undercutting the decisions?

How much do you pay Willie for a reduced role? Does he accept a salary cut?

I think the 2026 scheme should be predominant 4 man...Modified 3 man with a Jack....And also believe WJ has a lot of gas in tank and should be used as the rotational 55% rep end and allowed to just cut loose, with the other 3 "best" options at DE....Preferably 2 imports and Bailey the Global or a Canuck we can land via FA's or draft...Allows us to designate another import to DT and have 2 legit ball busters inside alomg with Lawson....Do that with 7 bodies who can play, and the secondary, almost regardless of who we employ get better...significantly...same with LB's As I mentioned in another post while discussing dline with Gavin Walls he even said what he saw...and would have hated to do, was that we used our ends a lot...primarily WJ in a contain role and not as an attack end...and you could see a lot of times it was a take 2..3 steps...jab down and hold back and become a volleyball player at the net...and more often than not it looked like plays were being taking off...as basically we schemed him out of plays ourselves....or was flat footed alot and having to attack/pursue from a dead stop...pointless and stupid...and a waste quarter of a quarter...the 1st quarter

We used lots of 4 man fronts at other times too. When you handicap yourself with the geriatric brigade you can't expect pressure. Willie lacks give a damn, Jake still has give.a man but he's toast after about a quarter.

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Funny how we ran a primarily 4 man front that game too. Coincidence I think not.

....Yeah....time to get aggressive in our search for talent ....We seem to dawdle along until most of the talent is spoken for....Let the player(s) 'KNOW' that we are interested in their services now....All the other clubs are in that game

All of this you mention would be seen as being very 'proactive' ......something foreign to this club it seems