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Our OL sucked last game, as did our DL, secondary, QB and STs. Last week's game had nothing to do with roster decisions. Our whole roster sucked and so did our coaching and evidently locker room leadership.

But who the **** replaces that guy with a guy who has looked worse at center every chance he’s gotten. Honestly. 7 years of Eli is the next one. Eli this. He’s not some fresh faced rookie. He’s a ******* Vet in reality a vet backup. Didn’t realize it was kolo under throwing balls and interceptions tho. Cuz oline looked pretty great our week 1 with a different QB.

The roster we had on the field was capable of winning. Maybe if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle is not a coherent argument to make. I will agree that Collaros not being taken out MIGHT have been a mistake, but one that can not be definitively proven. Maybe we put in Dolegala or Wilson for the remainder and they throw 3 INTs and we lose by a larger margin. We will never know. I do agree that depth has been depleted somewhat, and that in part is what the crux of my argument is. We have people sitting here saying that our depth is depleted but we should play our depth anyway because they are better than who the coaches have identified as starters. Pick a lane, the argument can't work both ways.

He had the best commercials on 'OB: "Can you say blow out, I knew you could."

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Love this one - Ty was my favorite as a kid. https://www.bluebombers.com/2025/07/09/he-had-so-much-joy-on-the-football-field-tyrone-jones-added-to-ring-of-honour

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I’m not making a statement on whether these were all wise moves or not. I’m just following up with my statements that Walter’s has stated that he had a plan to let some older vets go each year rather than all at once. I don’t think there’s much of an argument to be made that this hasn’t been happening it just has happened slower than much of us would like. It’s true likely that if Bighill didn’t have constant injury problems he wouldn’t have been replaced. But that’s just how it often goes. So far you can’t really question the wolitarsky move as he hasn’t yet been healthy enough to suit up for Hamilton. Oh and Johnny Augustine is another aging player we replaced. Basically Hamilton paid for Johnny and we got a good young running back from them as a throw in on the trade for the global pick. Johnny sure did look good two weeks ago though. It’s nice to see these “Team Ted” players doing well in Hamilton.

Lawler, will likely ride his shoulders until I fully strike out.

roster decisions and dumb strategy cost us 3 cups...plain and simple no ifs ands or buts....some thos handful of plays flipped could have been acheived likely with healthy and proper players...also....You can also say the teams that beat us had plays they would have liked back too even tho they won...so the reasoning of if this...or that would have went the other way we would have won holds no weight....and a lot of times the idea of "if this would of went this way" or "that wouldn't have happened" is a direct result of what other team did...or didnt do.... We were out coached...out rostered...and out played for most part in 3 losses....in all 3 dumb decisions were made...alot of that due to roster and or lack of trust/experience in any player outside a starter....no way to sugar coat it....And looking seeming unprepared and having a poor scheme....again thats on coaching....and the non-ability to facilitate any adjustments, or player subbing and just continuing to try and pound square pegs in round holes ....well that didnt help matters either...and again....coaching...Coaching and coaching decisions leading up to the games were our demise Hardrick chased money and what it would have took to keep him was not worth it...so that hand was played for us Jeffcoat they lowballed and figured he would accept...he didnt...and they had no backup plan or player in waiting to cover...and we still haven't covered it Harris was in decline...and had become a bit of an issue...plus it was play BO and lose him.....so making the actual correct move there gets no applause from me...thats expected Only one that really was a bit shocking was Woli....and again...we havnt covered that position with any depth whatsoever...and a long term injury....god help us of 2 being utterly screwed

Hardrick, jeffcoat, wolitarsky, Darvin Adams, Harris come to mind as players we allowed to move on or didn’t offer on in previous seasons. I imagine not all of Bryant, Nuefeld and Thomas will be back next season.

I agree on the bolded....and that happens often, and when the coords are dropping a duece it's on Osh to get in their ear....blast them....over rule...whatever, and he fails not to....unless.....the poor results is a result of him actually over ruling already....possible??....who knows...but there is a major disconnect many times with out in game coaching/communication...and it kills us I do know coaches get input but the notion he gives them exactly what they want I have doubts and never have heard that....and the coaches are not gonna publically say they wished they got other players to use....wont happen...but they will say all the things are rosey stuff tho...same with players.....well most The part about the ratio tho...is accurate and some his decisions on how he uses it hinders the roster and whom the coords can use.... Osh is a good coach for sure...leader of men maybe moreso....but have some doubts/questions about his X nd O ability and making in game decisions...or lack there off.....he has major flaws that have been glossed over and we have overcome with a real good roster....we dont have that now..

And if we dressed some healthier receivers in 2023 maybe they make those handful of plays... maybe if an injured collaros is taken out of the game last year they makes some plays to win... Roster decisions have 100% impacted the teams ability to make the plays necessary to win the tight games. That's the whole point! When it's that close you can't afford to handicap yourself. Again they got away with a lot more in the past because they had a very strong and very deep roster, but the depth has been eroded and and starters are aging and becoming less consistent. Time is coming quickly when the roster management problems become more and more of an issue.

Can you say that our roster decisions took us out of any of those games? Nope you can't because that is a fictional narrative. The teams we fielded could have won all of those games if they flip a handful of plays they erred on. I am not suggesting roster decisions can't make things tougher to win, they can. However, whatever lineup we fielded in any of those games had the opportunity and ability to win those games. The fact they didn't is because at key moments of the game they did not make a play they should have/could have made. Pierce, Hall, and Younger have all stated that they tell O'Shea who they want in the lineup and that almost always he makes it happen except for moves made to appease ratio. They meet early in the week to discuss lineups based on new injuries, and then work in collaboration on lineups. Of course, MOS has final say but he is not forcing players on any of his coordinators unless ratio has to do with it. Hall even stated that more often than not we are forcing players on him, and he almost always gets it done for us. Before either of you say I am licking MOS boots, I'm not. Last game his coaching was terrible and is in dire need of improvement. I just don't think it was for the reasons being thrown around this forum. My problem with his coaching was that he did not have the team we fielded adequately motivated and prepared to compete. That is also equally on the coordinators who are very conveniently being overlooked as gross underperformers last game. Dickenson's crew took them behind the woodshed and taught Hogan and Younger lessons. Couple that with a group of players who went on bye week 3 hours too early and we got what we got. I don't care what roster moves we make for that game the result would have been similar because only a handful of guys showed up prepared to play, and the gameplans from our coordinators were bunk.

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And kolankowski has looked like **** in the regular season for a few years... all people want is to see if a change makes a difference because the starter is not good enough

He plays the same all the time, No sense of urgency. He does put up big yards in a losing cause, like Harris.

HC takes input...but he has last say and essentially sets lineup and roster...and essentially declares who he wants to see with player use and reps As @SpeedFlex27 said...basically signs off on the game day roster. He dictates who he wants out there based on gameplan they came up with. Good HC allows for most part his coordinators to come up with it and may offer input, but they give them essentially full creative control of it (and we do that here) but they control who is used to deploy it... All in game decisions...strategic...player performance (pulling a guy...injury replacement etc) is head coach...he is in total control of game day...and it's also up to him to get in ears of coordinators to make changes and adjustments when things are going off rails...in the end...he wears it This isn't assumption or opinion...its from being in the room...being in team mtgs as both a player and a coach...seeing it first hand...and it's basically like that everywhere

Even more iconic when a player wears turdy tree.

The HC signs off on everything. He has the last word. The DC may have certain personnel he wants to play but if Coach says no, it's no.

He’s been the next one for 6 7 years. He’s not that guy. Eli hill is a weird hill to die on. Dude looked like **** in pre season.

And he is going to retire as an occasional player so long as O'Shea is head coach and refusing to let him play some meaningful minutes.

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I dunno, but I also know no one has a worse centre than we do.

I have no problem bringing in a better player. Who’s out there? Can he snap? He had enough bad ones in preseason that I don’t blame the coaches for not trusting him.