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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
wbbfan replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Every single off-season, at least 7-8 teams retool in free agency. Full-scale rebuilds are rarer; it's more often that teams hire a new HC and we see where the mostly new roster falls. Like we will see in Ottawa this offseason. I think the closest thing to a rebuild we see these days is what happened in Calgary. Even BC's D was rebuilt mid-season. We've rebuilt secondaries mid-season multiple times in the last 6 seasons. NI talent is hard to rebuild fast, though 1 great draft can change a lot as we've seen a few times. Ols are generally slower to build, but teams are starting to realize we don't need to be married to forcing 3-5 canadians into those spots like teams used to. 3 imp ols are becoming more common and we've seen some 4 imp lines last year. Going Imp, and heavy, allows you to build the ol much faster. WR cores build fast, it's really just QB which you get or you don't have. -
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Booch replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
yeah..."he's earned" his 600k....and we saw "glimpses" of what he can do....good god...Thats not glimpses of potential...its glimpses of what was....and wont be the norm.....And awesome break down...thats some fuggly assed **** for 650k.... I guess we should be ready for the JT re-up as I am sure his 18 games and 9 defensive tackles for 2025 has earned his 130k or more salary....and yes...those were his stats as a top 3 reps dlineman on the squad...let that marinate Osh looks back at what was as does Walter's apparently....I have zero faith at moment....none.... -
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Booch replied to sportmentary2012's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
yeah he said he allots certain amounts to certain position groups, and seems as rigid with that as osh is with his ratio...both should be fluid and adjusted on the fly if need arises or you have an opportunity to upgrade somewhere....missing put on FA guys or letting others go because it doesn't meet what you already predetermined as your ratio...is just dumb...and makes your roster decay...kinda like ours has... -
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wbbfan replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
In Walter's press conference, he was asked about Zach's deal, and he still thinks Zach is worth 600k. (He unofficially confirmed the 600k, and I assume the 350k ish gaurenteed again) I broke down his playoff stats a couple of years ago, which were even more dismal than I expected. Here is some more fun with Zach's numbers. He has played 31 games in his last two seasons, and during that time, he has averaged 238 yards passing, 1 interception, and 1 touchdown per game. 14 of his 31 games have been under that average of 238 yards passing, 7/31 games have been 300 or more. With 10 games very close to his average. In 24 games out of 31, we see average, or bad Zach. And average Zach is pretty bad. 12/31 gave had more ints than tds. 8/31 games have had more TDs than INTs. His 2 best games of the last year skew his stats by 762 yards, 9tds and 0 INTs. If you remove his 2 best games of last year, his average per game drops to 228 yards per game, and .8 tds per game. If you create a split of good Zach vs Zach the rest of the time over the past 2 seasons, you get this; Good Zach, 2134 yards, 16 tds, 4 ints in 7 games. for 304 yards per game. A full season would be 5,472 yards, 41 tds, and 10 Ints. Common Zach, 5,250 18 tds 27 ints in the other 24 games for 218.75 yards per game. A full season of this Zach would put up 3937 yards, 13 tds, 20 ints. In 7 of Zach's last 31 games, he has been worth 600k. That is very comparable to what BLM and Rourke did this year. In the other 24 games Zach has played, well, you'd be better off taking Fajardo's worst 1.5-2 years. Or any other maligned QB that started in this league currently. Like MBT. 77.4% Zachs games played the past 2 seasons, he's been one of, if not the worst, starting QB in the league. If we fix "X", "Y", and "Z", does that mean we flip those games and see good Zach 77% of the time? Well, we didn't have the worst pass blocking OL over he past 2 years, far from the worst run game, and didn't have the worst WR core. (As dismal as the WR core has been, it has featured guys like Wilson, Demski, and Lawler over 2 seasons.) I don't see us having the ability to get a premium QB this year, even if we weren't locked into Zach. I think the best hope is that if we significantly improve at OC, OL, and WR, Zach will be a coin flip between league average (instead of arguably worst) and MOP. Yep, and when you see the fast turnaround without a year of bad ball, it's because of a QB change. Going from a mccheese to VAJ will flip your fortunes fast. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Booch replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
ZC had good supports in and around him in 2024...and basically kinda sucked too....the concern tho is the arguing with him and Osh...basically confirms that Osh pouts and has a huge say in a lot of the crap we rostered...that has to stop now and Wlter's needs to slap on the big boy pants and say here is what u are getting for players...make it work....You dont like it...dont let the door hit u on the ass on way out...That dynamic is bad bad bad...and makes a lot of sense now....Osh needs to be the HC and thats that.... -
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
BomberBall. replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah, this is a big question I have too. With the staff pumping his tires all the time, I doubt it will happen. But maybe, if we had an OC he respects, that tailored a game plan to his current skill set, it could work. I think we can all agree that there is no respect for the current OC. -
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rebusrankin replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Zach needs help but can't blame it all on Hogan. Zach is 16-14 with 34 tds passes and 31 ints over the past two years. The decline is real. -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
Booch replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yeah...Dolegala had moe experience as a pro..Wilson more experience here....but also the way we run practice and get guys in for reps during season his "experiemce" was basically moot....Either way...a healthy QB would have gave us a better chance than a guy who could barely grip the ball...let alone throw it...Plus the fact he basically has been a non factor in majority of our playoff games for most part anyway...sometimes a switch makes a huge shift in game...we have been on other end of that several times What did ZC give us after he came in with his dangly finger?? I know first pass was picked...but wasnt there a pick 6 as well...fumble...couple of turtling sacks?....I actually shut the game off shortly after the first pick and havnt even watched the finish -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
TBURGESS replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Tweaking isn't going to be enough to get back into the top teams conversation. Continuity, at this juncture, is just continuing the downward trend we've been on for the last 3 years. -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
Booch replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
basically this...and Dolegala was here more than long enough to run the offence...He also wssnt a raw rookie...had several yrs under his belt...was a starter...he would have been fine.....and better than what ZC could offer Osh just Osh'ed....and it was apparent with other injured guys he kept trotting out...and the fact he wont pull a guy for not getting it done...Other coaches do....The Argo's did with their QB...In Grey Cup...and moments later were hoisting er' up while we wondered what happened O have said it many times here...and stand by it...coaching killed us/kills us.....and if it's just more the same, and so far...looking like it...gonna keep killing us -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
HardCoreBlue replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I'm with you on this one. They should have went all in with TW. I felt real bad for him but ZC had absolutely no business going back into that game and some people saying MOS had no option but to stick with an injured ZC is completely false. -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
sweep the leg replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I would have been ok giving either of our qbs with all of their fingers a chance to finish that game. -
Here's a perfect example of an athlete that brings productivity to the ice as well as brings strong interpersonal skills to help with team cohesion and leadership.. And he's not the best player on the team but he's probably one of the best on the team that brings the full package. The expectation (not always met) for all players is have the full package to some degree not just one or the other.
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Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
Bigblue204 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I legitimately don't understand what people think they saw in Dolegala. He should not have been put in the GC game. They 100% should have stuck with Wilson. He looked far more poised in the pocket than even Collaros, was a threat to run and could make every throw. Like someone mentioned...MOS should have given HIM the chance to be great. - Today
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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Bigblue204 replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Generally speaking....major changes lead to at least 1 yr of bad football. I think this years CGY team is the only one I've seen where it worked out extremely well...and even then they were 1 and done. People that are wanting major changes/rebuilds are asking for losing seasons. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
bigg jay replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
His exact words from his Nov 3rd media availability: Around the 2:45 mark of the video, he's asked about the fans wanting major changes. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
Captain Blue replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Is there such thing as a rebuild in the CFL when 6 of 9 teams make the playoffs and most contracts are extremely short? Roster turnover is huge across the league. -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
SpeedFlex27 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Are you serious? What you say makes no sense. With anyone there is always a chance. Who knows what might have happened had Dolegala played. Putting Zach back in was ridicu;ously stupid. He was unable to throw. Dolegala gave us a better chance to win over Collaros who couldn't grip the ball. How many pick sixes did Zach throw after he went back in? -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
17to85 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Zach collaros couldn't grip the ball! Oshea talked about giving players a chance to be great putting an injured guy back out, we'll how about giving a backup the chance to be great? Collaros wasn't hurt, he was injured and couldn't do his basic job. It's negligence to trot him out there. Yeah the backup might have sucked... but at least they could grip a ball. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
17to85 replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I mean do we really need a top down rebuild? There's still some good pieces here, just need to add some stars which could be done in free agency... and then jetison some dead weight. Things aren't as dire as all that yet. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
SpeedFlex27 replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yup, Osh said that in his presser after the playoff loss to Montreal as per Paul Friesen's story here. Someone quoted the same story it was discussed here. Osh said he didn't believe a rebuild is needed. He hoped that wouldn't happen. He just thought a tweaking was needed. Read the article. https://winnipegsun.com/sports/fix-the-offence-bombers-collaros-oliveira-got-osheas-attention -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
SpeedFlex27 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Yet fans here think Osh is the one who can right the ship.... He's the reason the good ship Bombers are listing. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
GCn20 replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
All teams say that publically. Elgersma will get a shot if he comes up for sure. Does anyone think ZC stays healthy for all 18 games? If he does we won't have to worry about whether Elgersma got his shot in year one or not. Proof? Not what I heard in his presser whatsoever. That could be mainly why he hasn't signed for sure. -
Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread
SpeedFlex27 replied to johnzo's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
Well, the best teams have the best players usually. That's not unusual. Collaros needs help. His comments after thge season just confiormed it. He had Brady but numbnuts Hogan never used him properly. Now, Osh will waste two months deciding if a change is needed at OC & in the end will probably just bring him back anyway. -
Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread
GCn20 replied to Atomic's topic in Blue Bomber Discussion
I disagree wholeheartedly on what Dolegala might have done. He is a stand up, pocket passer with almost no mobility. He had extremely limited knowledge of our playbook, took almost no first team reps to build timing, and would have been facing a TO front 4 that was dominating our OL. I give him a near zero chance of winning that game if he comes in. We may all hate that Zac Collaros went back into that game, but he was the only QB on our roster that realistically gave us any shot of winning. Yes, in order to do so he would have had to be able to play through his injury but if I am the coach I would make the same call based on who was available. It's not like we didn't try Wilson, we did, and he promptly went out and laid a big fat egg. Dolegala? Not even a realistic option really IF we are truly trying to win. I get the gamble that ZC could play through didn't work, but at the time the decision was made it was the right decision imo. Anything else is laying down and gifting the win. The reality of the situation is that the second ZC got injured our chances of winning that game, no matter who we put out behind centre, pretty much dried up unless D and STs could pull out a miracle. Our offence was done. I don't think that's an unfair statement at all. ZC could have gone back into that game and we feed them a steady diet of BO and we had a chip and a chair. The problem wasn't leaving ZC in the game. The problem was the play calling once we had decided that. Buck never adjusted to the reality of that moment. We had all kinds of run packages, screens, dumps, go to the flats that ZC could have executed even with a bad finger. Instead we have him going long on his first play back in the game. It made no sense.
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