July 2, 20169 yr I don't have any animosity towards MOS but he's just not producing the results we need, Somebody posted this on the cfl.ca forum: Just in case it doesn't get better in Bomberland - 3 ex CFL QB's coaching in the NFL that would need some money and coaxing to coach up north . #1 Tom Clements - Green Bay Packers # 2 Danny Barrett- Miami Dolphins # 3 Jeff Garcia - St.Louis/LA Rams IMO, nobody's going to get Clements out of Green Bay, but what do you folks think about the other two? OR, do you have other ideas?
July 2, 20169 yr In a perfect world, I would like to see: Paul Jones - GM/ Dir Player Personnel Scott Milanovich - HC/OC/Vice President of Football Operations Kyle Walters - Vice President/Football Admin Pete Costanza - OC/Asst HC/REC Jason Shivers - DC (Assuming that Mark Nelson is not available) Mike Oshea - ST
July 2, 20169 yr 46 minutes ago, Fred C Dobbs said: I don't have any animosity towards MOS but he's just not producing the results we need, Somebody posted this on the cfl.ca forum: IMO, nobody's going to get Clements out of Green Bay, but what do you folks think about the other two? OR, do you have other ideas? None of those guys are gonna be coming up here. 0% chance. People have talked about clements and barret for a long time. 10 minutes ago, Floyd said: In a perfect world, I would like to see: Paul Jones - GM/ Dir Player Personnel Scott Milanovich - HC/OC/Vice President of Football Operations Kyle Walters - Vice President/Football Admin Pete Costanza - OC/Asst HC/REC Jason Shivers - DC (Assuming that Mark Nelson is not available) Mike Oshea - ST No way does mos go down to st imop. And tbh if we have to get rid of him as hc I wouldnt want him back as a CO. The rest is interesting though.
July 2, 20169 yr 5 minutes ago, Ducky said: The next coach will be Lapolice. Barf. Lapo is a charlatan who is contributing to the myriad of problems Bombers have right now. And the guys who hired him - Walters and MOS - are obviously too clued out to realize this.
July 2, 20169 yr Forget looking for a new HC, if we're looking for anyone find a GM who can get some talent on this team. Secondary needs help, d-line is a mess, linebackers didn't do much. RB can't find any room until the 4th quarter, receivers not making a huge impact. It's not coaching.
July 2, 20169 yr 2 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Forget looking for a new HC, if we're looking for anyone find a GM who can get some talent on this team. Secondary needs help, d-line is a mess, linebackers didn't do much. RB can't find any room until the 4th quarter, receivers not making a huge impact. It's not coaching. When the whole team takes a collective dump as they have over and over again in the past few years, it has to be the coaching. The whole team played last night as if they expected to lose, and they did.
July 2, 20169 yr 1 minute ago, 17to85 said: Forget looking for a new HC, if we're looking for anyone find a GM who can get some talent on this team. Secondary needs help, d-line is a mess, linebackers didn't do much. RB can't find any room until the 4th quarter, receivers not making a huge impact. It's not coaching. So Wild, Bass and Leggett are all mediocre players now? Same with the Dline? Talent is there - Richie Hall's system is crap, Lapo and Willy are not on the same page at all and Osh can't manage a game.
July 2, 20169 yr Westerman was all CFL last year. Shologan has been a very good player for many years. Cummings was great last year. Harris has been an all CFL rb. Dressler has been very good for many years. Chris Randle is a great db. Medlock is the most accurate kicker in CFL history. Bass stood out at lb last year and was among the tackle leaders. Bryant has been an all star tackle. Ryan Smith was very good last season. Ian Wild has been an above average lb. Is it really all on a lack of talent? Don't get me wrong, I think Walters is an issue but MOS is too. How do so many players all of the sudden go off the cliff?
July 2, 20169 yr 8 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Westerman was all CFL last year. Shologan has been a very good player for many years. Cummings was great last year. Harris has been an all CFL rb. Dressler has been very good for many years. Chris Randle is a great db. Medlock is the most accurate kicker in CFL history. Bass stood out at lb last year and was among the tackle leaders. Bryant has been an all star tackle. Ryan Smith was very good last season. Ian Wild has been an above average lb. Is it really all on a lack of talent? Don't get me wrong, I think Walters is an issue but MOS is too. How do so many players all of the sudden go off the cliff? It all has to come down to leadership. If the players have lost confidence in the coach(es), then they default assumption is that a loss is inevitable. Willy is not doing well, and he may or may not be fixable, but letting him go out onto the field again and again when he is obviously struggling instead of putting Nichols or whomever out is all on the coaching. Willy does not seem to have the command presence to instill confidence in the team this year, and maybe he has lost it forever. He wouldn't be the first.
July 2, 20169 yr 20 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: Westerman was all CFL last year. Shologan has been a very good player for many years. Cummings was great last year. Harris has been an all CFL rb. Dressler has been very good for many years. Chris Randle is a great db. Medlock is the most accurate kicker in CFL history. Bass stood out at lb last year and was among the tackle leaders. Bryant has been an all star tackle. Ryan Smith was very good last season. Ian Wild has been an above average lb. Is it really all on a lack of talent? Don't get me wrong, I think Walters is an issue but MOS is too. How do so many players all of the sudden go off the cliff? Dressler hasn't played more than 5 minutes all year, Smith isn't doing much without the support of a real #! guy, kind of like Denmark. Shologan has been over rated from day 1, he's the kind of guy you can hide when he's surrounded with better players. Cumming and Westerman I got no problems with but the other end spot is a hot mess and has been Walters entire time here. Posey and Fogg are getting worked over, Johnson isn't as good as people said. Bass may have been good last year but he ain't done **** this year, it happens.
July 2, 20169 yr 5 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Dressler hasn't played more than 5 minutes all year, Smith isn't doing much without the support of a real #! guy, kind of like Denmark. Shologan has been over rated from day 1, he's the kind of guy you can hide when he's surrounded with better players. Cumming and Westerman I got no problems with but the other end spot is a hot mess and has been Walters entire time here. Posey and Fogg are getting worked over, Johnson isn't as good as people said. Bass may have been good last year but he ain't done **** this year, it happens. Yea but who decides these players are good enough? All the great coaches know immediately whether a player has what it takes to play. MOS it takes him 4 or 5 games and in some cases a whole year to determine if the player is good enough. Look at BC 2 and 0 why? Cause Wally knows how to coach.
July 2, 20169 yr 8 minutes ago, bb1 said: Yea but who decides these players are good enough? All the great coaches know immediately whether a player has what it takes to play. MOS it takes him 4 or 5 games and in some cases a whole year to determine if the player is good enough. Look at BC 2 and 0 why? Cause Wally knows how to coach. Does he not have options at backup? Walters brings in OK vets but no rookies.
July 2, 20169 yr 17to85, what has MOS done to make you think he's a good coach? That he's not part of the issue?
July 2, 20169 yr 31 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: 17to85, what has MOS done to make you think he's a good coach? That he's not part of the issue? Still waiting for the answer to this question, which I have asked a few times. Always gets ignored.
July 2, 20169 yr He was a good player and people like him. He was a successful ST coach and he has done good work with our STs. That doesn't make him a good head coach. I would have liked to have seen him learn more about personnel selection and game management, especially on the offensive side of the ball, for 4 or 5 years, before becoming a HC.
July 2, 20169 yr 11 minutes ago, J5V said: He was a good player and people like him. He was a successful ST coach and he has done good work with our STs. That doesn't make him a good head coach. I would have liked to have seen him learn more about personnel selection and game management, especially on the offensive side of the ball, for 4 or 5 years, before becoming a HC. Both Walters and Oshea will be great CFL guys... probably with other teams unfortunately. Osh will light up the league as an ST Coach somewhere Walters should have spent three more years as asst GM to someone like John Murphy or Paul Jones, etc...
July 2, 20169 yr 3 hours ago, DR. CFL said: How does LaPo as HC improve the overall situation with this team? One could debate that his teams played with more heart and emotion then mos. Over all I wouldnt expect much of a change though. Ducky is probably right though, if its a mid season firing plop takes over. I cant see this team tearing down in the off season though and hiring plop as HC. Just a matter of time before he gets the hat trick. 2 hours ago, Floyd said: So Wild, Bass and Leggett are all mediocre players now? Same with the Dline? Talent is there - Richie Hall's system is crap, Lapo and Willy are not on the same page at all and Osh can't manage a game. +osh cant get any hard play out of his guys. Rest is true. This isnt an un talented team. Not by any means. We have good young and old players.
I don't have any animosity towards MOS but he's just not producing the results we need,
Somebody posted this on the cfl.ca forum:
IMO, nobody's going to get Clements out of Green Bay, but what do you folks think about the other two?
OR, do you have other ideas?