Ducky Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 LeBrun ... "It's a 100 percent no-move starting immediately and for the first two years of the new deal. then it shifts into a modified no-trade with a list of teams starting in Year 3." 2 million signing bonus and 6m for the first year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 8, 2016 Report Share Posted February 8, 2016 (edited) Gonna say it. Think Hamonic is a Jet next season. Not sure if it's trouba myers or enstrom going the other way tho. If trouba wants big money.... I'd move him for Hamonic. I also think Enstrom is traded too. I think that may happen sooner rather than later Edited February 8, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Ducky said: He's been on the team all year and doesn't seem to be hampering the tank too badly... Yeh but now hes happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 It would take a lot for me to give up Trouba in a trade for Hamonic. I would give Trouba a 2 year bridge for about 8.5....something like 4m and 4.5m. That should be enough to satisfy him for two years and know if he plays to his potential, he will get a huge contract the next one he signs. Chevy covers his arse in case he doesn't play up to potential and doesn't have to re-sign him to a mega-contract. Also, I think they really like what they see in the pairing of Trouba-Buff. I hope they don't trade Enstrom unless they are getting some help on LHD from elsewhere. I'm not sure in any way if Morrissey is any closer or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 8m, 8m, 8m, 8m, 6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 During Buffs media scrum he said that he liked and i'm paraphrasing what the Jets had coming up in terms of prospects, becoming a contender was a process, so Buff likes the direction the team is going, the money doesn't hurt either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 Just got in and heard about Buff ... been waiting to use this! Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 26 minutes ago, bustamente said: During Buffs media scrum he said that he liked and i'm paraphrasing what the Jets had coming up in terms of prospects, becoming a contender was a process, so Buff likes the direction the team is going, the money doesn't hurt either. Ya, he said you don't build a cup contender overnight and he likes what he has seen come into the organization and what is coming up. He thanked Chipman and Chevy. IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Pop Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I wouldn't move Trouba unless it's one hell of a package coming back. Really, a competent GM should be able to swing a bridge deal or a favourable long term deal. If we're giving up on the kid, it better be because of what they see in him (or don't see in him) as a player/person, not what his agent says he's worth. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 9, 2016 Report Share Posted February 9, 2016 I'd imagine that if trouba is dealt it's because they feel he isn't worth the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 I hope Chevy doesn't give Trouba more than a bridge deal. He hasn't done anything to deserve a long term deal. Sign him to two years and if he is really looking good at the start of the 2nd year, get him locked up long term before the end of the season. If it looks like he will not be anything better than a 2nd pairing D man, pay him accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Thing is, he's 21. That plays a role. Guy is 21. His ceiling is high. The only thing i'd be concerned about with Trouba is his off ice conditioning and issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 22 in a couple of weeks actually.....more reason for a bridge....show us what you got.......if he is the real deal, 8mx7.5 and he is 32 when the deal expires.....is a key cog in the team for years to come and probably wears an "A". If he isn't, then pay him whatever a 2nd line D man makes...not sure how much that is but I am guessing 4.5m per year. He's got 12 points for God's sake... giving him a big money long term deal would be foolish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Thing is... He's a d man who is good at playing D. This is the problem these days, with guys like Karlsson and Subban for that matter winning Norris Trophies. The Norris Trophy is supposed to be for the best Dman. not the best offensive D man but the guy who actually plays D the best. Trouba might not be putting up lots of points but that's really irrelevant because he's very good at playing D. You can't have 4 or 6 Offensive D men, that doesn't work, you need guys who can play D also. Trouba does that. He's very good. There is no way anyone could question his on ice abilities cuz the guy is good. It's his off ice stuff that makes you wonder tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Not many D men get top dollar it they aren't putting up points. It's not that I disagree with you because I do. It is the way the league is though. Hamonic is a true shutdown D man and his cap hit is around 3.86m per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Hamonic isn't the norm tho, he's a different kind of guy. I mean, he wants to be traded to the JETS and despite what some are saying, it's only the JETS he wants to be traded too. Pretty much he will only accept a trade to the JETS. hence why he hasn't been traded yet. He's the exception to that rule. He's also what? 26 years old, Trouba is 21. you don't think Trouba has room to grow in the next 4 years? You watch that game last night? You see Trouba dominating? That's his ceiling. That's his potential if it's fully reached and that is a top 2 d man anyway you slice it. Myers for Hamonic is a fair deal. No adds from either side. If need be tho, I'd add Burmi or whoever to get it done but... That's a fair deal. If its Trouba for Hamonic, the isles are adding, a bunch. Edited February 10, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 28 minutes ago, Goalie said: Hamonic isn't the norm tho, he's a different kind of guy. I mean, he wants to be traded to the JETS and despite what some are saying, it's only the JETS he wants to be traded too. Pretty much he will only accept a trade to the JETS. hence why he hasn't been traded yet. He's the exception to that rule. He's also what? 26 years old, Trouba is 21. you don't think Trouba has room to grow in the next 4 years? You watch that game last night? You see Trouba dominating? That's his ceiling. That's his potential if it's fully reached and that is a top 2 d man anyway you slice it. Myers for Hamonic is a fair deal. No adds from either side. If need be tho, I'd add Burmi or whoever to get it done but... That's a fair deal. If its Trouba for Hamonic, the isles are adding, a bunch. Trouble is, I've watched Trouba all year. They need to bridge him to make sure he is on his way to attaining that ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Ducky and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Haha, read this in a few places...........what about Stuart.....................? Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Gee I wonder what the Kings would have parted with of they valued him that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 no 1st this year so people were saying Kempe + ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzmore Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 3 hours ago, Goalie said: Thing is, he's 21. That plays a role. Guy is 21. His ceiling is high. The only thing i'd be concerned about with Trouba is his off ice conditioning and issues. That's more than once that you have commented that Trouba has off ice conditioning and "issues". If you have proof of that post it...otherwise how about keeping those guesses and/or rumors to yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 55 minutes ago, blitzmore said: That's more than once that you have commented that Trouba has off ice conditioning and "issues". If you have proof of that post it...otherwise how about keeping those guesses and/or rumors to yourself. Lol so is he suppose to follow the guy and take pictures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 It's been stated many times that Troubas attitude has been called into question. Mostly his conditioning. Apparently went to Gary Roberts conditioning camp in the summer, dogged it bad, and there have been reports of a bad attitude. For me, I call it stereotypically American. bustamente, kelownabomberfan and Goalie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 (edited) wheeler and Buff are both Americans. you're probably kidding though, right? Edited February 11, 2016 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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