Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

Ladd and his agent made a big mistake by not taking that 6x6 contract if it was on the table, have a feeling the Jets have moved on 

2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

http://mytoba.ca/featured/winnipeg-ladd-return-jets/

Experienced 20+goal guy. What's not to love?

And maybe best part is that he's only worth 4.5 a season now.

The fact that he's 30 and probably wants 5 or 6 years at big money. Ladds a 3rd line winger on the jets in 2 years. Is that worth 6 million. Nope 

I think it would be hard for Ladd to come back.  It was HIS team and if he came back it wouldn't be his team anymore.  3 year deal max.

19 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

http://mytoba.ca/featured/winnipeg-ladd-return-jets/

Experienced 20+goal guy. What's not to love?

And maybe best part is that he's only worth 4.5 a season now.

I'd take Ladd back with open arms. We have the cap space for a reasonable contract. C or not, he would be an asset to our young core on and off the ice. Ladd doesn't come across to me as someone who wouldn't come back because he doesn't get the C. Who knows, maybe he'd like not having it.

I agree with TUP, 3 years max.

3 years at 5m per, I'm all in on Andrew Ladd as a 2nd or 3rd line center with no letter.....

4 hours ago, Noeller said:

3 years at 5m per, I'm all in on Andrew Ladd as a 2nd or 3rd line center with no letter.....

Why center?

Ladds time with the jets has come and gone. 

 

12 hours ago, Goalie said:

Ladds time with the jets has come and gone. 

 

Which is too bad.

Caught a cool of Bob Mackenzie on 1290 but not paying attention. Something about potential Trouba situation. Sounds like he said "I'm not saying Trouba will for sure be traded but..."

anyone know the story?

Basically it's just a guess. He's got lots of guys possibly being traded. Trade bait 2016. I wouldn't be surprised but I wouldn't guarantee that they trade him either. It all comes down to how much he wants. If it's ridiculous yup traded. If not..maybe he stays

Just show Trouba's agent the Maatta contract.

Trouba is better than maatta tho and healthier. Rielly contract is comparable. 

 

I am all for trading Trouba if we can get a top ten pick in this year's draft.  Colorado and Edmonton are intriguing because they have picks in the top 10.  If we can get Edmonton's 4th overall and can land a PLD or a Tkachuk and still keep the number 22, that could be worth doing.  Depends how high the Jets rate either of those guys.  And also depends on what Chevy thinks he can get for D men in FA.

Edited June 6, 20169 yr by kelownabomberfan

if the Jets end up with #2, #4 and #22, that's a heck of a collection of first round selections.  4 in the top 36...

This fan would be pretty upset to see Trouba moved - unless the return is massive.  For a draft and develop team, you don't move first round picks hastily. 

I think it would also signal a step back for the franchise, unless the add is a player better today than JT - why make the move?  Why get worse now...especially with Laine, Connor and Helle about to come on board? 

I think there are a couple of concerns with Trouba. 

He hasn't really progressed since his rookie season as much as some would like to see. 

There has been rumours he doesn't take his off season conditioning as seriously as the Jets would like.

His agent is also known as the to be a bit of a hard ass in negotiations (concerns on his contract negotiations)

IF the Jets are shopping him, it would be because they want to sell while his value is relatively high and maximize return. 

Mainly speculation of course, but at this point I would trust Chevy would have his reasons if he decided to move him. 

25 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

if the Jets end up with #2, #4 and #22, that's a heck of a collection of first round selections.  4 in the top 36...

If we're moving up in draft then we losing the 22 for sure.

Trouba straight up for #4?  Is that a good deal?  For either side?

6 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Trouba straight up for #4?  Is that a good deal?  For either side?

So Trouba for #4=Dubois.

That's an all-day discussion.

I think I would make it.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/prospect-interest-411-pierre-luc-dubois/

 

Edited June 6, 20169 yr by FrostyWinnipeg

also have to look at need.  PLD>Tkachuk?  I don't know.  Just asking the question.  Also just curious if a prospect (albeit a highly touted one) is enough for Trouba.  Should we ask for a third or fourth rounder too?

Edited June 6, 20169 yr by kelownabomberfan

It changes our strength from D to O.  Im not sure if thats a great thing.  No one wants to end up like the Oilers.  But if its done, it would be because the Jets are comfortable with Toby, Buff, Morrissey & Myers.  It might be a budget thing too.  A big deal for Trouba gives them 4 D with significant contracts, although Myers' is a cash-friendly deal.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

It changes our strength from D to O.  Im not sure if thats a great thing.  No one wants to end up like the Oilers.  But if its done, it would be because the Jets are comfortable with Toby, Buff, Morrissey & Myers.  It might be a budget thing too.  A big deal for Trouba gives them 4 D with significant contracts, although Myers' is a cash-friendly deal.

I think it hinges, for me anyway, on what Trouba's salary expectations are.  I just didn't see the improvement I was hoping for this season on the ice, to warrant a massive ask on the contract side.  But that's just me.  Let Edmonton over-pay him.  It's what they do.

9 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said:

Let Edmonton over-pay him.  It's what they do.

<Dustin Penner looks up from his bowl of Corn Pops, nods and laughs....>

Just now, mbrg said:

<Dustin Penner looks up from his bowl of Corn Pops, nods and laughs....>

one of many big mistakes.  With Lowe gone now I don't expect to see this happen again, but they are a desperate franchise.

2 things: 1) They had to overpay Penner to try and hit the cap floor and 2) I disagree they're desperate...the right people are in place now, and it's growing properly...