Catch all thread for discussing other NHL teams/news.

 

Up first:  Pittsburgh Penguins, my secondary team to cheer for.

 

I guess their worst start since Sid's rookie year could be because of their lousy defense.  Or bad coaching.  Or Kessel.

 

But in reality its because I took Fleury in my pool every year for 10 years until last year when I was fed up, he has his best year ever and then I took him this year and now he sucks. 

 

But really, whats the deal?  They might be the first to can their coach.

Pavs is at .500 after yesterday's game.

Helle is 10 x the goalie pav is. It's not even close. Pav is a fish out of water flopping around all the time. Helle is positionally strong. Tracks the puck well. Pav sometimes reacts well after the puck is in the net. Timeto move on from pav. 5 6 years of way below average nhl goaltending is enough. Fun fact.... Hutch started off strong yup and regressed to Pavelec like career numbers. Pav puts up a 906 save percentage he's our starter. Hutch does and he's regressed?  Seriously lol. 

 

Why do some people not get that pavelec is the worst goalie we have. Him and Hutch have similar numbers. Pav gets paid 4.75 million. Hutch might get 1 million. Hutch is good value. Pav you couldn't trade to a beer league team. 

5 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

i'll be negative nanny. Hutch had a great first year too and was a shell at the end.

I find Helle to be very slow and there are times he appears as if he has 1 eye.

Nah.  I think most people knew Hutch was overachieving.  I certainly did.  Helle appears to be the real deal.  Not sure there is any truth whatsoever to your criticisms, in fact they border on nonsense.

Id be fine with Helle/Hutch combo for the foreseeable future.   But I suspect thenJets will keep all three. 

Time to unload Pavs.  Time for Hellsky and Hutch to take over the nets.

Who would be willing to take Pav and that contract though

If they get a good price for Hutch, he is gone.........they would ship Pavs for less but harder to trade and only 1 year left anyway.

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

Who would be willing to take Pav and that contract though

I don't think Pav is tradeable.

Phaneuf was traded.........

27 minutes ago, Ducky said:

Phaneuf was traded.........

I'd want Phaneuf as long as he stayed out of social media.

http://www.tsn.ca/flyers-founder-snider-passes-away-at-83-1.468364

7 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I'd want Phaneuf as long as he stayed out of social media.

He has 6 more years at 7m per year. The Sens can keep him.

8 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I'd want Phaneuf as long as he stayed out of social media.

and stayed off the ice...

 

10 hours ago, Brandon said:

Who would be willing to take Pav and that contract though

We would have to retain 50%.  Calgary seemed like a soft landing spot but there will be other UFA goalies namely Reimer.  So we're probably stuck with Pavs

44 minutes ago, Rich said:

 

Supposedly they want to go in a more Analytic direction.  Seems odd to me.  This team had no money and multiple ownership issues and the GM managed to put together a pretty darn good list of prospects.  Now someone else will come in and look like a genius when this prospects all come together.

Other speculation (or is it just the Big Show guys) that this might be the ownership wanting to get Mathews no matter the cost.

15 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Id be fine with Helle/Hutch combo for the foreseeable future.   But I suspect thenJets will keep all three. 

I agree. If Pavs hasn't been dealt after all these years of sub-par play, why would they deal him now when you're out of the contract in a year anyways.

That said, it would be a truly appalling decision - and would really have my second-guessing the decision making of Chevy and Maurice.

If this team trots out Pavs & Hutch for opening night; you better be telling fans that Nolan Patrick is #1 priority next season. Period.

2 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Supposedly they want to go in a more Analytic direction.  Seems odd to me.  This team had no money and multiple ownership issues and the GM managed to put together a pretty darn good list of prospects.  Now someone else will come in and look like a genius when this prospects all come together.

Other speculation (or is it just the Big Show guys) that this might be the ownership wanting to get Mathews no matter the cost.

When I was down in New Orleans a few weeks ago I was wearing one of my many Jets shirts and a Coyotes fan stopped me on the street to yak hockey.  He seemed to be a bit in the know with the team and said that there was a lot of truth to the Coyotes going hard after Matthews as the cache of having a Scottsdale boy on the team would be huge for the local fan base.  I pointed out that Tkachuk was also a Scottsdale kid and the son of a former player but that didn't seem to register.  The Coyote fan base has tunnel-vision on Matthews right now.  I would expect they make a play for #1 over-all once the draft order is decided.

I'd trade Matthews for OEL. The offensive LHD we are sorely missing.

3 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I'd trade Matthews for OEL. The offensive LHD we are sorely missing.

straight up? 

Just now, kelownabomberfan said:

straight up? 

If AZ were to give up OEL I don't think anyone else would go with him. Now if it was a forward. They might throw someone in with lets say Domi jr.

Shane Doan for Matthews.  There's a Mike Smith trade.

I think if we get #1, we get more than OEL for it.  Because Mthews can be a game changer for us too plus how much Arizona wants him.  If they want him its going to take a ton because if we stand pat we still get Mathews.  No lose scenario for us.  I'd ask for OEL, their first and another top prospect.  We can throw someone in.

17 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I think if we get #1, we get more than OEL for it.  Because Mthews can be a game changer for us too plus how much Arizona wants him.  If they want him its going to take a ton because if we stand pat we still get Mathews.  No lose scenario for us.  I'd ask for OEL, their first and another top prospect.  We can throw someone in.

100 % right they really need that cornerstone superstar, we would get a king's ransom for Mathews if we were lucky enough to win the lottery, really hard call if the Jets would consider a trade or keep what could end up being an elite player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21 minutes ago, bustamente said:

100 % right they really need that cornerstone superstar, we would get a king's ransom for Mathews if we were lucky enough to win the lottery, really hard call if the Jets would consider a trade or keep what could end up being an elite player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All trades should be considered. Matthews is very good but not elite franchise good. If Arizona offered a significant package that still included a high draft pick, Id definitely consider it.  

Drafting fkrst makes you better for years and maybe a little better now. Getting OEL, another top prospect and a top draft pick makes you better now and for years. So go for it. 

But good point about Tkachuk too. Why don't they covet him?