@JDunk12: Official: #CFL Supplemental Draft set for Wednesday, May 20 at 1pm ET.

It's nice to be fighting about who fits where instead of what player we should pick off the scrap heap to fill a role.

 

Ed Tait ‏@WFPEdTait 3m3 minutes ago

#Bombers GM Kyle Walters on new DB Garrett Waggoner (1): "His testing numbers are off the charts. They’re phenomenal.” #bn

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Ed Tait ‏@WFPEdTait 42s43 seconds ago

#Bombers Walters on Waggoner (2): "U put on film and he’s running around killing people. He's a unique talent/complete package for us.” #bn

 

Ed Tait ‏@WFPEdTait 31s32 seconds ago

#Bombers @GarrettWaggoner was worked out by Danny McManus, trains with Nick Moore. "Super-excited to be a Bomber." #bn

 

 

 

I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety.  Let's just slow down.  We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American.

 

Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line.

 

 

He won't play safety in the CFL.

 

 

Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement.

 

 

My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL

He trains with Nick Moore in the offseason.

I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year.

 

 

 

 

I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety.  Let's just slow down.  We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American.

 

Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line.

 

 

He won't play safety in the CFL.

 

 

Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement.

 

 

My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL

 

 

 

Fair enough. Why?

I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year.

 

I'd say that's pretty much a lock at this point.

 

We have more than enough long haired dudes to fill our Canadian ratio on defense.

 

 

 

 

I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety.  Let's just slow down.  We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American.

 

Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line.

 

 

He won't play safety in the CFL.

 

 

Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement.

 

 

My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL

 

Its hard to say how things will work out through Training Camp, it is possible to play a NAT as safety this year we have enough depth ( more than enough )

It boils down to what is best for the Team, Leggett is a very good safety so he would have to beat someone out at DB...

Waggoner played Safety at Darthmouth so he could play it in the CFL...

 

Here is an interesting article about Waggoner http://3downnation.com/2015/05/19/waggoner-set-to-become-3rd-generation-cfler-thanks-to-moms-twitter/

He trains with Nick Moore in the offseason.

So he should be good to start at least 4 games this year...

 

He trains with Nick Moore in the offseason.

So he should be good to start at least 4 games this year...

 

 

Garrett Waggoner's mini hamburgers.

 

My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL

 

 

Fair enough. Why?

 

His size and testing numbers indicate that he will potentially make a hell of a weak-side linebacker in the CFL.  I believe that he could also play safety but that teams value a Canadian linebacker more than they value a Canadian safety (supply-and-demand), so the Bombers will do everything they can to make him work at that spot.  Furthermore Richie Hall has a history of always using an import at safety and we have a really good one.  The Bombers are clearly committed to starting a Canadian corner as well and it seems unlikely to me that they would start two Canadians in the secondary.

Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB.

Rotor over on Riderfans (who regularly talks with Eric Tillman) says Tillman thinks Waggoner has a chance to be a rookie starter at LB.

Sounds Butler-esque to me...

 

 

 

 

I don't see us starting a Canadian at safety.  Let's just slow down.  We didn't just draft a starter, and if we did, he is taking the spot of Hurl, not an American.

 

Not necessarily. He may be taking Bucknor or JFGs spot as a starter. Further to that, he is not taking the spot of an American, he would be allowing us to put a veteran import elsewhere in the lineup. Hurl's job is not the one on the line.

 

 

He won't play safety in the CFL.

 

 

Unless your name is Mike O'Shea or Richie Hall you are completely unqualified to make that statement.

 

 

My opinion is that he won't play safety in the CFL

 

Just watched his tape, quick breakdown

 

Negs

Is very tall in his pedal and a touch slower in it.

First step out of break is slow

Limited tape vs top comp

 

Pos

Second step is amazing out of the break

Once he gets going, he can fly

Will hit u and hard.

 

Like him more at the mac and will, footwork would have to get way better to play saftey

Chapman went unselected.

Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS?

Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS?

Leggett is a ball hawk too, great anticipation skills, hate to lose him in the secondary.

Waggoner is a WIL LB for sure, size speed skill to play there. Leggett is one of the best safetys in the league, he will stay there for sure as he should. 

Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner

 

I think we only start one canadian receiver at the start of the year.

 

I'd say that's pretty much a lock at this point.

 

We have more than enough long haired dudes to fill our Canadian ratio on defense.

 

 

I actually prefer 4-import receivers anyways.   

Re: Leggett at SAM .. I've seen Leggett have trouble tackling receivers, is he a good enough tackler to play up closer to the LOS?

Leggett is a ball hawk too, great anticipation skills, hate to lose him in the secondary.

No reason got can't have Leggett on the field at the same time as a Canadian safety in certain packages... but all signs definitely point to our ratio being 3 o-line, 1 rec, and 3 on defense

Walters said after the draft that they are going into training camp tentatively with eight Canadian starters on the depth chart.  I don't see that changing.  3 OL, 2 WR, 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB.

Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner

 

That's what i was thinking, eventually it looks like they will not require a National to play the corner.  Being a professional football player must be an insanely stressful job.

Walters said after the draft that they are going into training camp tentatively with eight Canadian starters on the depth chart.  I don't see that changing.  3 OL, 2 WR, 1 DL, 1 LB, 1 DB.

 

That could be. 8 NI starters would allow us a great deal of ratio flex. I certainly wouldn't mind that prospect. I do not think that a 2nd NI receiver will be utilized on a full time basis though. I suspect we will see a lot of offensive packages featuring 4 import receivers.

 

Competition will be fierce for which Canadians play on defence. No guarantee Buckner starts at corner

 

That's what i was thinking, eventually it looks like they will not require a National to play the corner.

 

 

I think that is a position you want to transition away from a NI if you have the luxury of doing so. It's a tough position to find good NIs at.