USABomberfan Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Noeller, on 18 Oct 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:Brohm looked better than Marve, but Willy is the guy. When healthy, they're not even close to Willy. Make no mistake, Brohm did a great job going through his progressions and finding the right reads, but he lacks both the mobility and the arm strength that Marve brings to the table. And that was playing him on the fly with basically no prep. I'd like to think if he was given a full week to prepare for a start, he would be even better. But I fully expect Willy will be back next week and playing with a chip on his shoulder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I thought Marve looked better than Brohm. I like his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Noeller, on 18 Oct 2014 - 11:23 PM, said:Brohm looked better than Marve, but Willy is the guy. When healthy, they're not even close to Willy. Make no mistake, Brohm did a great job going through his progressions and finding the right reads, but he lacks both the mobility and the arm strength that Marve brings to the table. And that was playing him on the fly with basically no prep. I'd like to think if he was given a full week to prepare for a start, he would be even better. But I fully expect Willy will be back next week and playing with a chip on his shoulder. I think Brohm showed very well and I saw very good arm strength from him. He lacks mobility and his 'awareness' really needs work. His release and recognition are fine but he's got to 'feel' that defensive pressure better. As for Marve, he was very entertaining and was impressive but when you say he hasn't prepared, remember, the opposing team hasn't prepared for him either. Willy, once he recovers, is still ahead of both those guys…but it is nice to know that the backup position is secure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Marve has looked really good.... In extremely limited action. Let's remember how well QBs without game film have done against us.. If he gets a start next season or 2 and keeps looking as good as he has (IE when DC's get to game plan against him) then we can start to get excited... Also, lack of knee ligaments and that much running makes me worry.. You absolutely must know with the current coaching staff he will not be given the opportunity to start unless he is the last man standing. I look forward to the day when the Bombers have an OC that will play the appropriate QB for the appropriate situation instead of the one QB fits all scenario. My realistic hope is that they design a red-zone offence around Marve's talents and practice it enough to make use of it in games next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Marve has looked really good.... In extremely limited action. Let's remember how well QBs without game film have done against us.. If he gets a start next season or 2 and keeps looking as good as he has (IE when DC's get to game plan against him) then we can start to get excited... Also, lack of knee ligaments and that much running makes me worry.. You absolutely must know with the current coaching staff he will not be given the opportunity to start unless he is the last man standing. I look forward to the day when the Bombers have an OC that will play the appropriate QB for the appropriate situation instead of the one QB fits all scenario. My realistic hope is that they design a red-zone offence around Marve's talents and practice it enough to make use of it in games next season. They already have a Red zone offense setup for Marve, we have seen it numerous times (even in this game prior to brohms injury) Willy is #1 and he is so for a reason.. Id like to see a legit battle between brohm and Marve next season in TC and PS.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Willy is the man no questions about it... but it is refreshing to have qbs who can actually throw the ball hard for a change! I do like Marve as a change of pace qb like what a few other teams are doing.... his elusiveness was quite impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Marve arm bails him out when he does not make the smart throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Marve & Brohm played well. It was nice to see. Noeller and sweep the leg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 It's nice to have back up that won't go out there and have a 7-22 92 yard like proformances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yourface Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I think Willy is a little overrated on these boards... I don't see him as a clear-cut better option than Marve right now. There's just no way to know how good Marve can be until he gets a fair amount of reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Willy's first quarter of playing time as a Bomber was better than Marve's. Given the value we're putting on that amount of playing time, Willy is the better qb. max power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 If the Bombers are going to spend the off-season trying to build a max-protect offence around Willy's immobility they are chasing the wrong chicken. They'll continue to fail at this approach until they acquire enough talent to form one of the best O-lines in the league and that could take years. Better they work towards moving the pocket around and developing Willy's mobility to better avoid the crushing pass rush he plays under now. I think Burris would be a good model to emulate as he uses his mobility mostly to relocate himself but usually throws from a fixed stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm and Marve have proven that the Bombers can give Willy another game or two off in order to heal, which isn't a bad thing. To give either of them the starters job over Willy with the limited action we've seen is extremely unfair to Willy and what's he's accomplished. However, Willy being named the starter without truly earning it, is a different conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 I'm just shaking my head laughing. You have to understand how hurt Willy is and has been for weeks (months?) When healthy, there's just no comparison. Having said that, it's really nice to have backups who can move the chains. Been a LONG time.... iso_55 and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... sweep the leg and Brandon Blue&Gold 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... To be honest I don't know if he was good or lucky on that completion he made on that "Houdini" play. If I had my druthers I would have been very happy with him throwing the ball out of bounds on that kind of play because typically that throw would end up as a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... To be honest I don't know if he was good or lucky on that completion he made on that "Houdini" play. If I had my druthers I would have been very happy with him throwing the ball out of bounds on that kind of play because typically that throw would end up as a pick. That one and about 3 more. I hope the people who are happy with his reckless play when it works aren't the ones jumping on his back when it doesn't, but we know how that goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 It's early, actually very early, but it appears that Brohm and Marve are a step up from Hall and Goltz. Brohm threw a nice deep ball, albeit on a trick play to Denmark. Right on the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueandgoldguy Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... To be honest I don't know if he was good or lucky on that completion he made on that "Houdini" play. If I had my druthers I would have been very happy with him throwing the ball out of bounds on that kind of play because typically that throw would end up as a pick. Many of the best Qbs in CFl history made a living of "Houdini" plays instead of throwing the ball out of bounds. Flutie and Allen come to mind. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Lol I love how Marve has a reckless play.... so it's all his fault that Simpson ran right at him unblocked and he managed to run to the sideline and avoid the sack and then throw a dart to the receiver.... yes really reckless ..... Blue-urns and Yourface 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... To be honest I don't know if he was good or lucky on that completion he made on that "Houdini" play. If I had my druthers I would have been very happy with him throwing the ball out of bounds on that kind of play because typically that throw would end up as a pick. Many of the best Qbs in CFl history made a living of "Houdini" plays instead of throwing the ball out of bounds. Flutie and Allen come to mind. They wasn't rookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue-urns Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Marve looked like a guy who is a home run hitter, the type who will strikeout a ton too. Tonight he hit a couple home runs, but some of those throws... To be honest I don't know if he was good or lucky on that completion he made on that "Houdini" play. If I had my druthers I would have been very happy with him throwing the ball out of bounds on that kind of play because typically that throw would end up as a pick. Many of the best Qbs in CFl history made a living of "Houdini" plays instead of throwing the ball out of bounds. Flutie and Allen come to mind. They wasn't rookies. They were at one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Who said he's done for the season? Have they given an update on his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Brohm looked real good to me, and he looks better each time he plays. It's too bad he's done for the season. Who said he's done for the season? Have they given an update on his injury? Looks like a broken thumb so yes, he's finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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