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Ray Blm Collaros Or Tate?

So you have to think that at the right price (and not even a huge overpayment) one of these guys is available. Calgary can`t keep both Tate and BLM, and Toronto can`t keep both Ray and Collaros. So I guess I`m left with 3 questions for everyone:

 

1- Is there a general agreement amongst us Bomber fans that we need to grab one of these guys.

2- If so who do you take? Who do you think is likely available?

3- If so when?

 

 

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I don't want Tate, and I doubt Toronto would consider protecting Collaros over Ray.  Therefore Toronto might want to get something for Collaros rather than losing him in the expansion draft.

 

As for when, it's hard to say.  One thing I would consider is that it is difficult for a QB to come in mid-season and have success, especially a young guy.  But that doesn't mean we can't bring him in.  So anytime between now and the roster freeze, I would go for Collaros.

Calgary will protect BLM - leaving Tate unprotected. But there's certainly no guarantee that Ottawa would take Tate, especially if Glenn is a FA and they sign him.  

Ray will be protected of course, but again Collaros is a FA, so he is likely lost to the Argos regardless.

Collaros and Glenn are both free agents at the end of the year, if I remember correctly.

I'm not so sure that any team is willing to give up their #2 if they are in the playoff hunt.   If they feel that they have a legit shot at the Grey Cup this year, they may just take the run at it, knowing they could lose their #2 to Ottawa.

 

Imagine if the Bombers were in the hunt (ok, not easily done right now), like we were back in 2007......with one exception, we had a proven back-up qb, who we traded at the deadline for a couple of draft picks.   Then we lose our starter in the East Final, and have no experienced backup.   The organization would regret that trade for years to come.

 

I suspect that Calgary, Saskatchewan, and Toronto will all want to keep their #2 guys past the trade deadline, as all have Grey Cup aspirations. 

Great point Jaxon.  Agree 100%.  That said, Calgary's got 3 guys that have shown ability to QB in this league.  And Ray is relatively durable. 

 

Given that Glenn and Collaros are FA's at year's end, I could see both being made available.  With the new regime in charge, and being judged in the short-term; there could be more impetus than ever to make a deal to bring one of these guys in.  Short-term judgement is rarely a good thing... but honestly, if we find our QB of the future, or heck, even a 2-3 year effective stop gap in Glenn for Poblah and a mid-round pick... it'd be a positive.

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I probably could have included Drew Willy in this too.

Wait until the off-season when Glen and Colarros are free agents. Then sign one.

I probably could have included Drew Willy in this too.

Out of all the potential QB's who may be available though trade or free agency, this is the guy I'd personally want.

Out of all the potential QB's who may be available though trade or free agency, this is the guy I'd personally want.

 

Tough call, but I think I agree.

I would want Collaros...but this whole question may be mute depending on how Max Hall does.

I like Bovine Mitchell, and Collaros, Willy etc.  The thing is, those guys come from teams with stellar offensive systems and coaches.  Put any one of 'em (obvs Ray excluded) in our current system/scheme and I doubt you'd see much better than what we've witnessed in '13.

 

That whole Cgy game I couldn't help but wonder what Goltz would look like behind that line, tossing to Lewis and co. with plays Dickenson drew up...

I like Bovine Mitchell, and Collaros, Willy etc.  The thing is, those guys come from teams with stellar offensive systems and coaches.  Put any one of 'em (obvs Ray excluded) in our current system/scheme and I doubt you'd see much better than what we've witnessed in '13.

 

That whole Cgy game I couldn't help but wonder what Goltz would look like behind that line, tossing to Lewis and co. with plays Dickenson drew up...

Put Ray in our line up and we would probably be the 2008 Eskimos

Theres a halt on any trades between the Grey Cup and the expansion draft too, FWIW.

I wonder what happens if Hall looks decent Friday.  Because Crowton is clearly going to be canned but if Hall looks okay then you're kind of in a tough spot.

 

BLM and Ray aren't leaving their respective teams, and Collaros will be a free agent.  We should have a good opportunity to grab him in free agency assuming anyone would want to come to the sinking ship that is this organization.

I think we would have a tough time luring any of them away, unless there's big time cash involved, even in Free Agency. Our best bet is to trade for Collaros early and hope he wants to stay at the end of the season.

Put Ray in our line up and we would probably be the 2008 Eskimos

Put Ray in our lineup we'd be the best team in the east AINEC. 

If you're Collaros why would you not want to come here if they offer you a decent contract? Best chance to start unless he wants to be Adrian McPherson 2.0.

If you're Collaros why would you not want to come here if they offer you a decent contract? Best chance to start unless he wants to be Adrian McPherson 2.0.

 

Maybe worried about being Stephan Lefors, Joey Elliot, Alex Brink, Justin Goltz or Tee Martin 2.0?

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He likes you too.

 

You sure milked that one.

You sure milked that one.

 

and that's no bull.

You sure milked that one.

 

 

and that's no bull.

 

no, it's udderly ridiculous.

Put Ray in our lineup we'd be the best team in the east AINEC. 

 

your roster and coaches plus Ray versus our roster and coaches with Collaros/Harris/Porter at QB? we still are ahead... and Ray might be the next Bomber QB in ICU.

your roster and coaches plus Ray versus our roster and coaches with Collaros/Harris/Porter at QB? we still are ahead... and Ray might be the next Bomber QB in ICU.

There you go again pretending that the Argos roster is a lot better than it is. Ray is such a huge difference maker it's not even funny.

Collaros and Harris are both FA come Feb 15, 2014. so Ottawa may not want to chance drafting one just to possibly see him sign elsewhere 2 months later.

 

we have 5 QB on our roster now. Ray, Porter and Gale are under contract next season. likely Barker will try to sign either or both of Collaros and Harris just to try and get some return on the 2 years of investment Milanovich et al has put into their tutelage... but having shown the league his promise it is likely that Collaros will have a few teams in for him and the competition for his signature may see him in another city next year. likewise, i doubt we could have a contract like Ray's as well as two backups on their second contracts. i still have a feeling that Harris may be a better prospect for us since as a pocket-passer type his style is less of a departure from the Ray offence... but boy is ZC fun to watch with his moves.

 

if i'm Winnipeg, i would already be tapping up ZC's agent... Walters on ZC's agent's voicemail: "hey buddy, Kyle Walters here... listen, i'm out of the office and i don't have my notes with me to check on this so i thought i'd just give you a quick call to ask if ZC is a free agent this coming February? i'm just walking my dog here and having some idle thoughts about our QB situation going forward now that i'm acting GM but i didn't want to waste time thinking about it if he wasn't going to be a free agent... anyway i'm almost home now. thank goodness, there must be at least a couple hundred thousand bugs out tonight. i'll talk to you later, stay in touch."

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