Second season of Orange is the New Black launched today.

 

Anyone else into this?

 

I have to admit to being a bit of a TV/movie-phile.  I generally buy Blu-Rays when there's a movie I want to see rather than just watching it on PPV or In-demand (I like to collect).

 

Premium TV has really been leading a creative resurgence in recent years, probably dating back to The Sopranos.  Its nice that Netflix has become a legitimate competitor for HBO (which puts out some really great shows like Sopranos, Deadwood, Boardwalk Empire, True Blood etc).

 

House of Cards was tremendous.

 

While cable channels like AMC are getting in on the act, I annoys me a bit.  The Walking Dead would be so much better on Netflix or HBO where they could truly appeal to adults (HBO passed on The Walking Dead when Thomas Jane was attached).

 

As for Orange, it took me a few episodes to get into last season but Im looking forward to banging out a few episodes tonight.

 

As an aside, for you Trekies, it was recently the 20th anniversary of the finale of TNG, one of the best Series' Finales in TV history.

Edited February 5, 20188 yr by The Unknown Poster

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

I love the genre, soa's taper down after the first 2-3 or so seasons was greater then sopranos but with a better ending and a much stronger first stretch. Sopranos i dont find to have such a strong stretch at any point. Id say hands down the supporting acting and writting was a lot better on soa. James gandolfini is truly top tier in that genre. Up there with the best from the godfather. Despite writing that was less then his acting. Aside from him it was real house wives of new jersey. 

SOA had some good actors.  The lead, for me, was the weakest guy and unfortunately had to carry much of the load.  I dont dislike him and Im sure he's gotten better.  But I found him to have very limited range.  Which season did they go to Ireland, the 2nd?  That was an awful season.

Both shows suffered a bit after they paid off their main story which for Sopranos was really after Junior tries to take out Tony.  That first season is the most structured.  And for SOA, once the gf bit the dust it sort of got away from them a bit.

One thing that did always bug me about the Sopranos was the small size of Tony's crew.  It was used as a plot point from time to time (Chris always wanting to go to war with New York and Tony telling him they couldnt).  But by the time the 6th season roles around you really have such a limited crew it really almost makes no sense for New York to be willing to negotiate.  Plus all the rats.  But that was Chase feeling that all mobsters are irredeemable and either horrible people or rats or both.  He established early that you either go to jail or die.  And good for him, I guess, for being committed to his vision but had he taken a more popular approach to the series and delivered what fans wanted, maybe it would have been a bit more enjoyable at the end rather then the rushed and emotionally deflated last few episodes.

There was a scene in Season 6 where Meadow is accosted by a New York guy.  And she's telling her mom when Tony walks in and he asks whats wrong and initially Meadow says nothing.  And I remember thinking 'wow they're not going to let tony find out'...but then she told him.  And it was really a moment that fans wanted to see Tony act in an heroic manner.

As I said before if you watch Boardwalk Empire it has so many similar themes to Sopranos but "goes there".  The wife is more openly complicit.  The "cousin" more openly turns on his mentor.  The old school guy and the current boss have a more overt "war".  There is actually a super violent war with New York.  There is a "heroic" badass scene where the quiet misunderstood bad guy goes full scarface and saves a child.  Really good series.

2 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

SOA had some good actors.  The lead, for me, was the weakest guy and unfortunately had to carry much of the load.  I dont dislike him and Im sure he's gotten better.  But I found him to have very limited range.  Which season did they go to Ireland, the 2nd?  That was an awful season.

Both shows suffered a bit after they paid off their main story which for Sopranos was really after Junior tries to take out Tony.  That first season is the most structured.  And for SOA, once the gf bit the dust it sort of got away from them a bit.

One thing that did always bug me about the Sopranos was the small size of Tony's crew.  It was used as a plot point from time to time (Chris always wanting to go to war with New York and Tony telling him they couldnt).  But by the time the 6th season roles around you really have such a limited crew it really almost makes no sense for New York to be willing to negotiate.  Plus all the rats.  But that was Chase feeling that all mobsters are irredeemable and either horrible people or rats or both.  He established early that you either go to jail or die.  And good for him, I guess, for being committed to his vision but had he taken a more popular approach to the series and delivered what fans wanted, maybe it would have been a bit more enjoyable at the end rather then the rushed and emotionally deflated last few episodes.

There was a scene in Season 6 where Meadow is accosted by a New York guy.  And she's telling her mom when Tony walks in and he asks whats wrong and initially Meadow says nothing.  And I remember thinking 'wow they're not going to let tony find out'...but then she told him.  And it was really a moment that fans wanted to see Tony act in an heroic manner.

As I said before if you watch Boardwalk Empire it has so many similar themes to Sopranos but "goes there".  The wife is more openly complicit.  The "cousin" more openly turns on his mentor.  The old school guy and the current boss have a more overt "war".  There is actually a super violent war with New York.  There is a "heroic" badass scene where the quiet misunderstood bad guy goes full scarface and saves a child.  Really good series.

I tend to agree that the supporting cast was stronger then the hunam. Ireland was s3 iirc. And yeah it was the turn down point. If they had ended it with the FBI womans death at the end of s2 it would have been soo much better. 

certainly a case of vision and ideals getting in the way of good story telling. Drea de matteo who acted in both was probably the next best character. They had potential with supporting gangsters like paulie and silvio but seemed to try to piss it away as much as possible. But when you put ideology before quality thatll happen. 

I havent watched boardwalk empire yet. Its on the list to get around to though. It sounds good and i hear nothing but good things about it. 

Boardwalk is really really good.  Amazing sets and visuals.  They re-built the Jersey Boardwalk to film on and its really remarkable.  Im not even a huge fan of Steve Buscemi and it might be an example of a show where the supporting actors were better than the lead.  There was thought given to pitching the lead to James Galdolfini as the real person the lead was based on was more like James than Buscemi but they knew all anyone would see would be Tony Soprano.

Winters said he had an idea to bring Gandolfini into the show in later seasons but he sadly died.  Really good.  There is one character everyone says cant act but he plays his part well (similar to Charlie Hunam actually). 

So yes, highly recommended.

http://tvline.com/2017/05/03/the-handmaids-tale-renewed-season-2-hulu/

 

1 hour ago, Taynted_Fayth said:

 

Oooo that looks good.

2 hours ago, Logan007 said:

Oooo that looks good.

I think we've all been waiting far too long for Matt Murdoch to show up as someone's lawyer

On 5/3/2017 at 9:47 AM, The Unknown Poster said:

Boardwalk is really really good.  Amazing sets and visuals.  They re-built the Jersey Boardwalk to film on and its really remarkable.  Im not even a huge fan of Steve Buscemi and it might be an example of a show where the supporting actors were better than the lead.  There was thought given to pitching the lead to James Galdolfini as the real person the lead was based on was more like James than Buscemi but they knew all anyone would see would be Tony Soprano.

Winters said he had an idea to bring Gandolfini into the show in later seasons but he sadly died.  Really good.  There is one character everyone says cant act but he plays his part well (similar to Charlie Hunam actually). 

So yes, highly recommended.

Yeah im pretty luke warm on buscemi. Was soo tragic when gandolfini passed. He might have had to fight off type casting like soo many other greats in the genre but he showed fantastic depth and skills as tony. 

21 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I think we've all been waiting far too long for Matt Murdoch to show up as someone's lawyer

Soo much this. I was sure when they were taking luke cage away thats what was gonna happen. Or in iron fist as night nurse alluded to him. 

Each of the individual stories had some really good bits and strengths. (save JJ which i still havent gotten back to try and finish again) If they do the marvel thing and make the sum of the pieces  greater then their individual weight defenders is going to be amazing. Right now i am most excited for thor 3, then defenders. 

pretty busy evening for tv, first we have a cancellation

http://tvline.com/2017/05/04/emerald-city-cancelled-season-2-nbc/

 

and a Pick up

http://tvline.com/2017/05/04/jason-katims-rise-series-order-nbc/

 

oh and this is going to happen http://tvline.com/2017/05/04/little-women-miniseries-pbs-masterpiece-bbc/

Edited May 5, 20178 yr by iHeart

damn it I just binge watched emerald city too... ffs now i'll never know wtf the beast forever is lol

I'm not-so-patiently waiting to see what happens with Will Forte's mostly-fantastic Last Man On Earth. Last word was they were very close to getting the axe, and he was on Twitter basically begging people to watch...

dear god.....why won't it die? I know Seacrest said, for now at the end of the last episode, but come on.....oh yeah and they want to air it on sunday nights, Once could be screwed for sure, unless they find a different time slot, yeah look how well it's going for Quantico right now, it'll probably end up in a death slot

 

http://tvline.com/2017/05/05/american-idol-reboot-abc-revival-fox/

I'd heard months ago that Fox and NBC were in a heated scrap to bring it back, and that either way, Seacrest would be the host again... 

except that it's going to air on ABC, which means if this goes through, American Idol will be a disney property

Why did some one not tell me about shameless seven years ago. Best thing I have watched in awhile.

I don't know do we really need a second season?

 

http://tvline.com/2017/05/07/13-reasons-why-renewed-season-2-netflix/

54 minutes ago, iHeart said:

I don't know do we really need a second season?

 

http://tvline.com/2017/05/07/13-reasons-why-renewed-season-2-netflix/

I'm sure we will get copycat deaths of this so maybe it will be based on the real incidents. 13 Reasons Why - The Aftermath

makes sense

Anyone catch American Gods?  its a Starz show (so I dont know how to watch it) but it was highly touted.  Fuller left Star Trek to devote his time to developing it.

4 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

Anyone catch American Gods?  its a Starz show (so I dont know how to watch it) but it was highly touted.  Fuller left Star Trek to devote his time to developing it.

I've read the book it was based on, so looking forward to finding  a way to get my hands on the series.

2 hours ago, Rich said:

I've read the book it was based on, so looking forward to finding  a way to get my hands on the series.

Torrents.

oh man, well tvline may have just spoiled what will happen sunday night. My only regret with this show is that I didn't watch the first season.....because well around the time it was having it's first season I was still watching the Simpsons and oh yeah the Jets were having their first season as well

 

http://tvline.com/2017/05/08/jennifer-morrison-leaving-once-upon-a-time-season-6/

Edited May 8, 20178 yr by iHeart

No Jen no OUAT.

22 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

No Jen no OUAT.

well Nashville doesn't have one of it's main stars anymore and it got renewed for a 6th season. 

 

But considering that ratings are dipping and I'm not exactly in love with what they have planned for the 7th season.......sigh and I was just getting over Rayna's death on Nashville

 

oh and by the way, several cast members contracts are up this season

Edited May 8, 20178 yr by iHeart

Just now, iHeart said:

well Nashville doesn't have one of it's main stars anymore and it got renewed for a 6th season. 

 

But considering that ratings are dipping and I'm not exactly in love with what they have planned for the 7th season.......sigh and I was just getting over Rayna's death on Nashville

What? Rayna died?