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Roughriders Over Cap in 2013

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  • nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and

  • I will sacrifice as many 17to85s (see: virgins) to the gods as necessary in order to appease them and break this terrible curse we're under...

  • I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

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under 100k = $ for $ fine + down 1 spot for first pick

100k and over = $ for $ fine + lose first pick.

 

that make sense to me

I wouldn't care too much if we won a cup by spending slightly over the cap.... if the league wants to be serious about penalizing teams for going over then start taking away draft picks.... dollar for dollar on $18k is no big deal

I would prefer some meaningful slap.

The idea of moving down the draft makes sense. The drop for each 10K sounds right. But it would have to be in the 1st round.

There seemed to be a conscious effort, with deferred payments, to keep the overage as low as possible.

 

There should be more of a fitting punishment.

Something like how we're punished when we have to listen to their blathering.

Or it that too harsh?

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

Take away their draft picks for a year. Fine them $1,000,000 and stop kissing their ass by calling them Canada's team.

its $17k... no big deal... as if you're going to take away a draft pick for $17k....  basically, they are over the cap because they had to payout grey cup bonuses - all teams should operate like this

its $17k... no big deal... as if you're going to take away a draft pick for $17k....  basically, they are over the cap because they had to payout grey cup bonuses - all teams should operate like this

league pays for playoff bonuses not teams. They are over the cap because they spent too much on player salaries plain and simple. 

As others have said, Riders and their fans whined for years about an unlevel playing field. Now they have repeatedly exceded the SMS. Sickening.

 

So Floyd, why have rules? Why have laws? Basically what you're saying.

The Riders becoming the very thing they've despised for the last thirty years - the Evil Empire. 

 

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

 

Well, Noeller. At least I've seen the Bombers win a Grey Cup unlike you. ;) I never went to Osborne Stadium as that was before my time. By the pictures I've seen, it looked like an interesting place, though. 

 

its $17k... no big deal... as if you're going to take away a draft pick for $17k....  basically, they are over the cap because they had to payout grey cup bonuses - all teams should operate like this

league pays for playoff bonuses not teams. They are over the cap because they spent too much on player salaries plain and simple. 

 

Player contracts can also have bonus clauses for the playoffs.

The cfl pays for 54 playoff shares to be distributed to active, injured and 9 game injured. Any other shares paid to coaches, staff and pr players are at the expense of the team. Bonus clauses to the players for playoff performances are not permitted in a standard player contract.

 

 

its $17k... no big deal... as if you're going to take away a draft pick for $17k....  basically, they are over the cap because they had to payout grey cup bonuses - all teams should operate like this

league pays for playoff bonuses not teams. They are over the cap because they spent too much on player salaries plain and simple. 

 

Player contracts can also have bonus clauses for the playoffs.

 

 

 

They could, but if the league pays them, why insert them in a contract?  Most contracts have bonuses in regards to games played or something with regards to stats.

 

 

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

 

Well, Noeller. At least I've seen the Bombers win a Grey Cup unlike you. ;) I never went to Osborne Stadium as that was before my time. By the pictures I've seen, it looked like an interesting place, though. 

 

I was born in 1980...I've seen 3, ftr...still have the 1990 penant on my wall. I want a new one...

 

 

 

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

 

Well, Noeller. At least I've seen the Bombers win a Grey Cup unlike you. ;) I never went to Osborne Stadium as that was before my time. By the pictures I've seen, it looked like an interesting place, though. 

 

I was born in 1980...I've seen 3, ftr...still have the 1990 penant on my wall. I want a new one...

 

We've been good fans, don't we deserve a new one?

I will sacrifice as many 17to85s (see: virgins) to the gods as necessary in order to appease them and break this terrible curse we're under...

 

Are you sure they accept heads that big??

ha!! Poor Ol' Shrek Bezemer...

sacrifices have to be pretty or they don't work

 

 

 

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

 

Well, Noeller. At least I've seen the Bombers win a Grey Cup unlike you. ;) I never went to Osborne Stadium as that was before my time. By the pictures I've seen, it looked like an interesting place, though. 

 

I was born in 1980...I've seen 3, ftr...still have the 1990 penant on my wall. I want a new one...

 

Yeah, but no way  that at 10 you were the fan you are now at 33 or 34. Great you have a 1990 pennant. You can't tell me that a GC victory by the Bombers wouldn't be a hugely emotional thing for you if they won now. Bigger than 1990 for you. I've been there, done that. But if I talk more about it, I'll have to bring in Nate to describe what the feeling is like when your team wins when  you actually care. Noeller, just giving you the gears, man.... ;)

If or when the Blue win another Grey Cup I think the feeling will be more of a huge monkey off the back rather then jubilation.

If or when the Blue win another Grey Cup I think the feeling will be more of a huge monkey off the back rather then jubilation.

Can't it be both like the late Earl Warren?

sacrifices have to be pretty or they don't work

 

 

 

 

 

I think the punishment for going over the cap should be that the teams play by play man for the season is Rod Black.

nah, make it something truly painful: They have to sit and listen to Iso and Nate talk about how everything WBB was great in 1965, Osborne Stadium was better than anything currently in the league, and that they wore onions on their belt...

 

Well, Noeller. At least I've seen the Bombers win a Grey Cup unlike you. ;) I never went to Osborne Stadium as that was before my time. By the pictures I've seen, it looked like an interesting place, though. 

 

I was born in 1980...I've seen 3, ftr...still have the 1990 penant on my wall. I want a new one...

 

Yeah, but no way  that at 10 you were the fan you are now at 33 or 34. Great you have a 1990 pennant. You can't tell me that a GC victory by the Bombers wouldn't be a hugely emotional thing for you if they won now. Bigger than 1990 for you. I've been there, done that. But if I talk more about it, I'll have to bring in Nate to describe what the feeling is like when your team wins when  you actually care. Noeller, just giving you the gears, man.... ;)

 

Keep in mind, the Bombers in 1990 not only did they win the cup, it was their 3rd in 6 years, so there was almost an expectation of not only appearing in the big game, but one of winning it as well. 

I would like to see stiffer penalties for cap violations, but I recognize that this current Saskatchewan amount is really quite minor.   I would propose that an escalation should occur for repeat offenders, with a re-instatement after 10 clean years. 

 

That being said, taking draft picks, or moving down in the draft, is NOT an easy solution.  Many teams trade (or swap) their draft picks, often a couple of years in advance.   Is the receipient of a draft pick to pay the price?   Can you imagine if the Bombers traded to get Sask's first round pick in 2015, but they were a small amount over the cap and that draft pick was now voided?  We'd be screeming.  

 

I think that draft picks would be a last resort.   I'd rather subject a serious multiple offender (which they are not) to other sanctions, such a "dispersal draft" where they protect 20 players, and the other teams in draft order get to take one other player off of their roster.  That would be much more effective than taking draft picks, and solves the 'previously traded' draft pick issue.

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