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Bombers-Argos ESF Week of Chat

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  • So long as Collaros is drawing breath, O'Shea will start him. Should the Bombers win, it will be in spite of the coaching, not because of it. So far as Dru Brown is concerned, his previous starts were

  • I'm still in a place where I just refuse to believe that it's Collaros' ribs that are the issue. Haven't seen anyone here question the veracity of that, so I'll do it. I saw ZC get clobbered and I've

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53 minutes ago, bluto said:

I'm still in a place where I just refuse to believe that it's Collaros' ribs that are the issue. Haven't seen anyone here question the veracity of that, so I'll do it. I saw ZC get clobbered and I've seen it before where Zach or another QB gets smashed and they'll say "neck" or "ribs" when we all know it could be the other thing.

At this point, because I like him, I want Collaros to never play a game of pro football again.

I agree....I call BS on the ribs...Maybe they are sore too....but he smoked his head hard on the turf...and just the post hit reaction from him...and from what I saw originally with what the trainers did...its head

1 hour ago, wbbfan said:

Id bet my bottom dollar that if demski can't go corcoran will start 🤮

Yeah....I have zero faith in the smart move being made...Tho with Peterson brought off the PR....Maybe they add him for Demski's spot and shift Clercius to the slot...That be the smartest move, Peterson would be a waste as other times he was elevated just stood around...I'd add Gatkouth...drop Jenkins and get Ayers back on personally as both them would serve a purpose and get reps

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My biggest concern is the slop that TC is gonna draw up....and the realization that Osh cant see when things are broken down, or not working....as well has no chops to do anything about it and step in with any input....plus the fact he has no balls anyway to make tough calls that may hurt someones feelings....I said it earlier, and will say it now...we lose tomorrow it will by a combination of poor coaching...poor decisions...less than ideal roster...again

I can't lay it on the players as it's not really our limiting factor...there are a couple sure that could/should be upgraded or on short leashes...but that wraps right back around to the poor coaching. Some say yeah but the player x...or player z just didnt get it done...thatcan be true to a point in terms of less talented guys getting favors...aka JT for yrs as one example...But if the scheme they are given...the independent roles they are tasked with (aka Kelly in coverage)...if those are just garbage it won't matter who is put in that spot...and therein is why we look like we do

1 hour ago, Booch said:

demski GTD...So if he cant go...whats the plan there I wonder....and even if he is good to go...who's to say he gonna be useless like other times we dressed him in playoffs wounded....Not seeing the Moxey move as being the smart one...almost shaping up like another typical playoff roster makeup....color me shocked

And still dont see the logic carrying big legs

I'm not a fan of Moxey....too small and has lost a step but bear with me on this one. Here's what I think their thinking is on the Moxey move. I've noticed that since Vaval has been handling the corner and return duties, he has played the DB position well but, IMO, his kick returns have fallen off a tad. So, I think that they're hoping that Moxey will step up after being a healthy scratch for quite a while and that Vaval can concentrate on returning kicks. (He'll be a lot fresher. There was a series last game where Vaval broke up a long ball on a second down play and immediately took the punt on the third down, not ideal, IMO.) Of course, if Moxey falters, they can sit him down and re-slot Vaval there. Just my opinion.

Demski is playing. There's no way they're going into a playoff game with zero back up rec. (that's what would happen if Demski doesn't play).

30 minutes ago, Slimy Sculpin said:

I'm not a fan of Moxey....too small and has lost a step but bear with me on this one. Here's what I think their thinking is on the Moxey move. I've noticed that since Vaval has been handling the corner and return duties, he has played the DB position well but, IMO, his kick returns have fallen off a tad. So, I think that they're hoping that Moxey will step up after being a healthy scratch for quite a while and that Vaval can concentrate on returning kicks. (He'll be a lot fresher. There was a series last game where Vaval broke up a long ball on a second down play and immediately took the punt on the third down, not ideal, IMO.) Of course, if Moxey falters, they can sit him down and re-slot Vaval there. Just my opinion.

HAHAHAHAHAHA good one.

Just now, Bigblue204 said:

Demski is playing. There's no way they're going into a playoff game with zero back up rec. (that's what would happen if Demski doesn't play).

we are talking about Osh tho...so there is a chance

We did play a grey cup game with 3 who couldnt run

2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Demski is playing. There's no way they're going into a playoff game with zero back up rec. (that's what would happen if Demski doesn't play).

Haaaavvvvvveeeeee you met osh?

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7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Demski is playing. There's no way they're going into a playoff game with zero back up rec. (that's what would happen if Demski doesn't play).

HAHAHAHAHAHA good one.

Vaval will absolutely be playing on D, we use everyone.

But I agree with the poster that said Moxey is starting to keep Vaval more fresh for returns.

And Kelly officially listed as starter for tomorrow, fwiw...

2 hours ago, wbbfan said:

I'm pretty surprised they didn't dress him hurt again as the back up and have him with the head set on on the sideline.

Really sucks Smith can't go.

Moxey staying on and starting makes me feel woozy

Moxey doesn't make me feel 'cozy'....Could be a spot Kelly goes and sics his fav friend Coxie on him....Maybe Moxie has a 'super' game .....well at least a competent game

5 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Haaaavvvvvveeeeee you met osh?

Amen Brother!!! Given that do not expect the Bombers to win it will be interesting to see what is next! Got to wonder what the turnover will be and at what level!

Just now, BRT said:

Amen Brother!!! Given that do not expect the Bombers to win it will be interesting to see what is next! Got to wonder what the turnover will be and at what level!

Don't expect anything higher than Coordinators

31 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Don't expect anything higher than Coordinators

I'd be surprised at coordinator changes to be honest.

3 hours ago, Jesse said:

I'd be surprised at coordinator changes to be honest.

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I think we will see a few retirements during the off season and not much else. I believe we will only see major moves at a management level once season ticket numbers start to fall. What will be interesting to me is whether Zack will retire or try and come back for yet another year playing 1/2 of the games. And whether the Bombers will buy into this.

51 minutes ago, BRT said:

Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I think we will see a few retirements during the off season and not much else. I believe we will only see major moves at a management level once season ticket numbers start to fall. What will be interesting to me is whether Zack will retire or try and come back for yet another year playing 1/2 of the games. And whether the Bombers will buy into this.

management level first is ass backwards and the wrong way to go about it. What human in their right mind would accept a GM position but be forced to inherit a failed staff for 5 or more consecutive yrs beneath him that almost undisputedly was reason for the team failing and the canning of the G/M? ....None of any value or sensibility in them...or one you would want leading an organization...as all of sudden the tail almost certainly starts wagging the dog.

A G.M new to a team will want to build it in his vision and with people he may know and trust and in the direction and ideals that he sells on the team President and Board.

If the G.M is gonna be used as part of the scape goat that will have to become a total purge ans starting at ground zero.

And if that occurs....the new G.M will be in place before a new HC is hired....You wont hire a H.C and then look for a G.M, just the same you wont can a G.M and maintain the H.C and his staff as a caveat and condition in the hiring process when looking to install a new G.M....Good luck with that

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@Noeller you may want to check this out to see how Bob handles Luke.

We also find out if the Commish is in fact still alive.

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