With Rookie Camp getting underway Wednesday morning, it's officially time to talk about the 2026 Winnipeg Blue Bombers!

4 hours ago, 17to85 said:

So I think if you put em in a room with no prior relationships or biases they'd mostly make the right decisions. It's the biases and relationships that cause the bad decisions

Seems like it eh

2 hours ago, 17to85 said:

I am convinced Eli is still being punished for the antivax stuff

Me too..its obviius he is better

I havnt watched the game yet as I was flying to California but back now..was his play good vs edm?

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Why keep him around 5 years later then?

Cause he kicked arse as that 6th man

11 hours ago, Booch said:

The few things..were a hc who didnt have his head up his Osh...I mean ass

Gm/scouting has brought in young guys..its the coach who refuses to play them or just cuts them...and ones who luck out..or of late have the misfortune of being kept dont play ever or get reps to develop and have a true gauge of what they have..or dont have..good football players dont have to sit on a pr for a yr to "develop" and then get a chance a yr..2 later while older and or lesser players play and fail...thats just the noneense narrative or HC peddles

Griffin and Smith are as solid as can be in the league...its the Jones and Wilson part that need to be addressed..

With smart people..we have a key position in leadership where the smarts i dont think ever were there...had a king size horseshoe up his Osh tho..

8 hours ago, 17to85 said:

So I think they can recognize talent.... They did afterall have singer as the guy they kept around and eventually put in... The problem is they won't make changes if it means someone losing their job. That's a different problem.

Playing favourites. Being stupid. You name it.

14 hours ago, ShyGuy said:

Looking at the CFL stats package and...

Looks like Collaros will end up middle of the pack in qualifying QBs BUT #2 overall in passes 20+ yards downfield by percentage completion... which is something that I didn't expect going into this year.

Even more surprising, even with that 1 game against Montreal where he had 1 reception for 2 yards, Singer has entered the top 40 Receiving yards leaders. There are 6 players averaging more than his 77.5 YPG ( T. Philpot 113.1, Snead 92.1, ,KSB 91.5, K Johnson 83, and Coxie 77.8). He leaders the Bombers in Receptions 20+ downfield with 9, and there are only 13 players above him with double digits in that category.

Making sure he sticks around and is happy should be the #1 priority.

Singer is more than likely NFL bound.

7 hours ago, Booch said:

Seems like it eh

Me too..its obviius he is better

I havnt watched the game yet as I was flying to California but back now..was his play good vs edm?

Cause he kicked arse as that 6th man

I by good you mean better than Elsbury..yes...if by good you mean as a starting C in the CFL...no. I like Eli as our 6th OL but starting C is in definite need of a big upgrade this offseason. Our OL is hot garbage.

49 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Singer is more than likely NFL bound.

I by good you mean better than Elsbury..yes...if by good you mean as a starting C in the CFL...no. I like Eli as our 6th OL but starting C is in definite need of a big upgrade this offseason. Our OL is hot garbage.

well...Reps and opportunity...can develop a guy...and create cohesion with guards...so if given a true shot...Maybe he proves doubters wrong...But I agree he is as good as it gets as a sixth and the role we pigeon holed him in...

But our oline needs to be the focus for sure....If next yr we start the yr with Broxton at LT...Manu at LG (if both those guys come up which i think is highly likely, by that i mean Cline for RT)....Eli at center...I'm fine with Neuf at RG and Cline at RT...Or Vaterpool if he secures the job we be worlds better and have a brawling ass kicker group

That's without any FA signing, if any stud is available. Also if that could come to fruition that's 4 Canadians on the Oline..With BO and just 1 Canadian starting reciever, we could really have some flexibility ratio wise....Allow Demski to augment the group as opposed to over work him and get him beat up with too much responsibility, and or load up some defensive studs...would keep Kelly off the field...and allow us to use Kramdi in a situational role...With Smith and Lawson back only 1 has to be on field at any given time...and be huge

Fly in ointment tho is having Osh back and his pointless tendency to play excessive Canadians for no reason whatsoever...I'd be fine with it if they were the best players with most potential...but they aren't. Other than BO and Smith, in all honesty any of our other starting Canadians, as well as the crap we throw out there when we sub needlessly are all inferior talent now and could be easily replaced if ratio allowed by an American, or pushed to a backup depth role

Thtat's why I hate having a Canadian headcoch with a real strong Canadian bias such as Osh...he has neutered and handcuffed us for yrs....and was lucky he had the horses given to him to overcome it, so wasn't an issue...But he hasnt had that now for yrs, and as we have seen its 5 yrs now of steady regression...each yr getting worse than the last

Punt his butt in the off-season....Allow walters to turn it around, and if we still falling....and appear to have lack of talent coming in, a poor draft strategy, no real rhyme or reason to FA and bypass guys cause we still wanna stick with the same ratio constraints that we have had...forever...then by game 6 if we sub 500 punt his butt

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6 minutes ago, Booch said:

well...Reps and opportunity...can develop a guy...and create cohesion with guards...so if given a true shot...Maybe he proves doubters wrong...But I agree he is as good as it gets as a sixth and the role we pigeon holed him in...

But our oline needs to be the focus for sure....If next yr we start the yr with Broxton at LT...Manu at LG (if both those guys come up which i think is highly likely, by that i mean Cline for RT)....Eli at center...I'm fine with Neuf at RG and Cline at RT...Or Vaterpool if he secures the job we be worlds better and have a brawling ass kicker group

That's without any FA signing, if any stud is available. Also if that could come to fruition that's 4 Canadians on the Oline..With BO and just 1 Canadian starting reciever, we could really have some flexibility ratio wise....Allow Demski to augment the group as opposed to over work him and get him beat up with too much responsibility, and or load up some defensive studs...would keep Kelly off the field...and allow us to use Kramdi in a situational role...With Smith and Lawson back only 1 has to be on field at any given time...and be huge

Fly in ointment tho is having Osh back and his pointless tendency to play excessive Canadians for no reason whatsoever...I'd be fine with it if they were the best players with most potential...but they aren't. Other than BO and Smith, in all honesty any of our other starting Canadians, as well as the crap we throw out there when we sub needlessly are all inferior talent now and could be easily replaced if ratio allowed by an American, or pushed to a backup depth role

Thtat's why I hate having a Canadian headcoch with a real strong Canadian bias such as Osh...he has neutered and handcuffed us for yrs....and was lucky he had the horses given to him to overcome it, so wasn't an issue...But he hasnt had that now for yrs, and as we have seen its 5 yrs now of steady regression...each yr getting worse than the last

Punt his butt in the off-season....Allow walters to turn it around, and if we still falling....and appear to have lack of talent coming in, a poor draft strategy, no real rhyme or reason to FA and bypass guys cause we still wanna stick with the same ratio constraints that we have had...forever...then by game 6 if we sub 500 punt his butt

If you punt Osh you have to punt Walters. I know you think he is good but he ain't. His recruitment is sub par, his drafting has been criminally bad over the past several years, and our FA signings very iffy over that span as well. Time to just blow it up. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. We have been in a tailspin talent wise for several year, our OL is just a joke, and we went away from drafting them for some reason that only Walters can explain but not likely well. He has been unable to retain talent even when having ample opportunity to do so. Some guys left and were going to leave no matter what, but the vast amount of our FA's lost were sitting by the phone waiting for a reasonable offer that never came. That is 100% on KW.

11 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

If you punt Osh you have to punt Walters. I know you think he is good but he ain't. His recruitment is sub par, his drafting has been criminally bad over the past several years, and our FA signings very iffy over that span as well. Time to just blow it up. He doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. We have been in a tailspin talent wise for several year, our OL is just a joke, and we went away from drafting them for some reason that only Walters can explain but not likely well. He has been unable to retain talent even when having ample opportunity to do so. Some guys left and were going to leave no matter what, but the vast amount of our FA's lost were sitting by the phone waiting for a reasonable offer that never came. That is 100% on KW.

no u dont...Thats a total obverhaul...We dont need a total overhaul...as that would basically have most if not all admin replaced...most team support staff....and thats the last resort u wanna go to

Walters could do no wrong people claimed...Until Osh and his tendancies got exposed...If we dump it all..we will be in wilderness for yrs, with no guarantee of getting out....I agree on Walters stupidity on Daniels, as it seemed some of the scouts had no clue who he even was. That is all on him...But Osh has a or had a ton of say in things too..who he wanted to have retained...who he was okay to let walk...etc...

If we had dumped some dead weight earlier we could have kept some the guys who did leave for more money...There was dysfunction the last 5 yrs no doubt...Walters should have been more firm from that 2nd Cup flop that was all on Osh as we still had the team to win the 2 first steamy piles we laid

That's what happens when you have 2 buddies working in the roles we have em in

That being said Osh can't see, or ignores his co-ords failures, and doesn't step in and take control, cause he can't...doesn't have the acumen to do so in regards to schemes and x' and o's...he's even on record saying that...He's a one trick pony which is that of a culture curator, and even then that was self policed for the most part.

We have seen yr after yr...He makes really dumb decisions, poor roster usage of what he does have, refusal to use rules allowed to him, very rarely able to have an answer adjustment wise in a game, and more often than not has a team go into a game unprepared....This stuff cant be denied, and has nothing to do with the GM or scouts....That doesnt mention his multiple yr blunders of playing clearly hurt guys in the biggest game of the yr, because he never allowed backups to get play time, so had zero faith in them, no trust, or had no clue what they were capable of as i still say is the worst talent evaluator in the league as far as coaches go...Not a guy you want leading a team...especially one likely headed for some serious rebuild being required

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

no u dont...Thats a total obverhaul...We dont need a total overhaul...as that would basically have most if not all admin replaced...most team support staff....and thats the last resort u wanna go to

Walters could do no wrong people claimed...Until Osh and his tendancies got exposed...If we dump it all..we will be in wilderness for yrs, with no guarantee of getting out....I agree on Walters stupidity on Daniels, as it seemed some of the scouts had no clue who he even was. That is all on him...But Osh has a or had a ton of say in things too..who he wanted to have retained...who he was okay to let walk...etc...

If we had dumped some dead weight earlier we could have kept some the guys who did leave for more money...There was dysfunction the last 5 yrs no doubt...Walters should have been more firm from that 2nd Cup flop that was all on Osh as we still had the team to win the 2 first steamy piles we laid

That's what happens when you have 2 buddies working in the roles we have em in

That being said Osh can't see, or ignores his co-ords failures, and doesn't step in and take control, cause he can't...doesn't have the acumen to do so in regards to schemes and x' and o's...he's even on record saying that...He's a one trick pony which is that of a culture curator, and even then that was self policed for the most part.

We have seen yr after yr...He makes really dumb decisions, poor roster usage of what he does have, refusal to use rules allowed to him, very rarely able to have an answer adjustment wise in a game, and more often than not has a team go into a game unprepared....This stuff cant be denied, and has nothing to do with the GM or scouts....That doesnt mention his multiple yr blunders of playing clearly hurt guys in the biggest game of the yr, because he never allowed backups to get play time, so had zero faith in them, no trust, or had no clue what they were capable of as i still say is the worst talent evaluator in the league as far as coaches go...Not a guy you want leading a team...especially one likely headed for some serious rebuild being required

Walters wears the title of GM. Everything happened under his watch. That's the bottom line.