25/26 CFL (Non Bombers) Off Season Thread

[JGD]

16 hours ago, Booch said:

Riders taking a nice eviceration ...

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

[Goalie]

Just now, JGD said:

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

lol. Coping is fun. Vaughters is washed up. 

[Bubba Zanetti]

7 minutes ago, JGD said:

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

[JGD]

4 minutes ago, Goalie said:

lol. Coping is fun. Vaughters is washed up. 

Coping?  Every player we lost other than Reavis, Allen, and Carney are backups.

I get the elation of the Bombers and other teams excited about getting our backups, I guess that speaks to the current state of each team.   

[Mike]

4 minutes ago, JGD said:

Coping?  Every player we lost other than Reavis, Allen, and Carney are backups.

I get the elation of the Bombers and other teams excited about getting our backups, I guess that speaks to the current state of each team.   

lol I’m going to explain it to you even though I know it’s going to fall on deaf, inbred ears

As a fan of a team that had it happen, your depth getting pilfered is going to be your undoing. You also fail to mention that you lost a Canadian starter, lost a very big piece to the NFL (Meyers), suddenly need a Global to replace a strong contributing one, Nield was a borderline starter and a strong depth add at worst, your starting DT retired and you paid a LOT more money to the same guys moving from 2025 to 2026.

Those things all matter. I seen it happen to us.

Anyways, good seeing you again Migs

[GCn20]

38 minutes ago, JGD said:

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

Vaughters was meh. If you don't view depth as losses, then JOD has a job for you. One of the big reasons we dominated the West for as long as we did was the quality of our depth. One of the reasons you guys stepped forward was that it seemed JOD was finally willing to value depth....and then kaboom....old JOD shows up and says hold my beer.

20 minutes ago, Mike said:

lol I’m going to explain it to you even though I know it’s going to fall on deaf, inbred ears

As a fan of a team that had it happen, your depth getting pilfered is going to be your undoing. You also fail to mention that you lost a Canadian starter, lost a very big piece to the NFL (Meyers), suddenly need a Global to replace a strong contributing one, Nield was a borderline starter and a strong depth add at worst, your starting DT retired and you paid a LOT more money to the same guys moving from 2025 to 2026.

Those things all matter. I seen it happen to us.

Anyways, good seeing you again Migs

Riders had their bacon saved by Nield last year, but having that kind of insurance policy for NAT receiver isn't a loss I guess. As a team that marched out Joey Corcoran last year, I am sure glad we have him. Corcs would look good in Green, then maybe light will don on marble head. When Trevor Harris inevitably gets nicked up, and it will happen to every 40 year old QB, they will be searching the internet for the whereabouts of Tino Sunseri. By any metric the Riders got completely haymakered yesterday.,

 

Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20

[Booch]

1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

First year in Saskatchewan he was playing musical chairs with some of his starters and telling the media that they would have to earn their way back onto the field. Don't get me wrong, a coach should do that sometimes but don't talk to the media about it. Players have long memories, not just the ones that you benched. It's an overall thing in a dressing room.  There was never any open dissension against him from players, but I guarantee that when you see a Grey Cup winning team take an absolute demolishment in the following FA, it's because there was never any loyalty developed by the GM/coach and therefore the dressing room felt little loyalty as well. 

I only remember this because it struck me as weird that Mace would do that so openly.

He has one good season under his belt of less than a 1000 yards. I'm not saying this contract will age well for him, but it's fair I think.  

Yet we've seen many players return to us for less than the market offered. One could call that loyalty.

yeah...things arent as tight as here....and is kinda telling that the loyalty was a one and done

You can kinda see it tho as they still had quite a few players who acted like assbags on the field still....so not a lot has changed there really

You dont see guys here acting like tools on the field over and over...and that is also self policed by a group of guys who pay for one another

[HardCoreBlue]

44 minutes ago, JGD said:

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

Riders suck?

[Booch]

41 minutes ago, JGD said:

Happens to every team after a championship.  Other than Carney and AJ Allen I don't really see these as "losses" as the majority of players that signed elsewhere are backups (Robistelli, Nield, Boldonado, Meier) and wouldn't have cracked our starting lineup

Whats the scoop on Vaughters?

didnt happen here tho....Neild was a starter no....if not sure played a lot...was Reavis not a starter too

Vaughters....good, but not what he was...I think tho he was also a victim of a stupid scheme here, but guess we will see

[Jpan85]

Marc-Antoine Dequoy has retired, I guess it was either Als or retirement.

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

didnt happen here tho....Neild was a starter no....if not sure played a lot...was Reavis not a starter too

Vaughters....good, but not what he was...I think tho he was also a victim of a stupid scheme here, but guess we will see

Vaughters was old and slow imo. I never liked him last year at all, and would have rather we tried rookies out.

[Booch]

Just now, GCn20 said:

Vaughters was old and slow imo. I never liked him last year at all, and would have rather we tried rookies out.

yeah....why we never gave guys a shot at all until the one meaningless game is a head scratcher

[GCn20]

1 minute ago, Jpan85 said:

Marc-Antoine Dequoy has retired, I guess it was either Als or retirement.

He was apparently asking for stupid money, and he is probably butt hurt he didn't get it. He wanted to be the highest paid NAT D player in the league. 

[JGD]

5 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Vaughters was old and slow imo. I never liked him last year at all, and would have rather we tried rookies out.

Vaughters is a year older than the Bombers prized signing yesterday, Ceresna.

[Bigblue204]

11 minutes ago, Jpan85 said:

Marc-Antoine Dequoy has retired, I guess it was either Als or retirement.

That's too bad. That guy was fun to watch! Surprised the Als don't want to keep him around.

[Bubba Zanetti]

7 minutes ago, JGD said:

Vaughters is a year older than the Bombers prized signing yesterday, Ceresna.

And if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

Vaughters career sacks = 27

Ceresna career sacks = 46

Vaughters looked old and slow last season and was invisible most games.

Edited 2 hours ago by Bubba Zanetti

[Bigblue204]

9 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

He was apparently asking for stupid money, and he is probably butt hurt he didn't get it. He wanted to be the highest paid NAT D player in the league. 

Honestly that's not that stupid. He's a defender you need to be aware of on every snap

[GCn20]

2 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Honestly that's not that stupid. He's a defender you need to be aware of on every snap

It is stupid for the position he plays. He was a playmaker for sure and deserves a good payday, but no team is going to make any S one of their highest paid players.

[Bigblue204]

9 minutes ago, JGD said:

Vaughters is a year older than the Bombers prized signing yesterday, Ceresna.

Ceresna isn't the prized signing imo. Broxton is. Ceresna is still effective though. Vaughters wasn't in CGY and certainly wasn't here.

I will say the loss of Nield might be helped with Wiebe as he could be a solid piece...jury is still out though. Certainly doesn't have the size. And like Mike said, the loss of depth may not seem like a big thing but come October you'll understand why it is.

[JGD]

30 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Vaughters was meh. If you don't view depth as losses, then JOD has a job for you. One of the big reasons we dominated the West for as long as we did was the quality of our depth. One of the reasons you guys stepped forward was that it seemed JOD was finally willing to value depth....and then kaboom....old JOD shows up and says hold my beer.

Riders had their bacon saved by Nield last year, but having that kind of insurance policy for NAT receiver isn't a loss I guess. As a team that marched out Joey Corcoran last year, I am sure glad we have him. Corcs would look good in Green, then maybe light will don on marble head. When Trevor Harris inevitably gets nicked up, and it will happen to every 40 year old QB, they will be searching the internet for the whereabouts of Tino Sunseri. By any metric the Riders got completely haymakered yesterday.,

 

We lost some good depth players for sure, but we have solid depth behind that as well.  Nield is a good player but we already have Ajou, DuncanBusby, and Weibe as backup Canadian receivers.  When we signed Emilus and KSB, it was impossible to bring back Nield, not surprised the Bombers picked up another ex-Riders receiver.     Meyers will be back by LDC if not sooner. 

 

My only concern is losing Carney, but it looks like Vaughters could be a good rotational player and he has a history with Mace.   Allen is good but we also have 3 good prospects to replace him in Hundeby, Wiebe, and Straker.  Nobody knew who Allen was at this time last year. 

7 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

And if my aunt had nuts she'd be my uncle.

Vaughters career sacks = 27

Ceresna career sacks = 46

Vaughters looked old and slow last season and was invisible most games.

I bet you don't wanna know how many sacks Ceresna had last season.  Vaughters also spent alot of time in the NFL so comparing their CFL sack totals is silly.

[Bubba Zanetti]

3 minutes ago, JGD said:

We lost some good depth players for sure, but we have solid depth behind that as well.  Nield is a good player but we already have Ajou, DuncanBusby, and Weibe as backup Canadian receivers.  When we signed Emilus and KSB, it was impossible to bring back Nield, not surprised the Bombers picked up another ex-Riders receiver.     Meyers will be back by LDC if not sooner. 

 

My only concern is losing Carney, but it looks like Vaughters could be a good rotational player and he has a history with Mace.   Allen is good but we also have 3 good prospects to replace him in Hundeby, Wiebe, and Straker.  Nobody knew who Allen was at this time last year. 

I bet you don't wanna know how many sacks Ceresna had last season.  Vaughters also spent alot of time in the NFL so comparing their CFL sack totals is silly.

LMFAO yeah i wonder if maybe it was because he was playing hurt and his season ended after week 11. 

[GCn20]

9 minutes ago, JGD said:

Vaughters is a year older than the Bombers prized signing yesterday, Ceresna.

LMAO...you are seriously trying to compare the two? Ceresna on his worst day was/is better than Vaughters on his best. Take a look at their physiques and get back to me. 

 

1 minute ago, JGD said:

We lost some good depth players for sure, but we have solid depth behind that as well.  Nield is a good player but we already have Ajou, DuncanBusby, and Weibe as backup Canadian receivers.  When we signed Emilus and KSB, it was impossible to bring back Nield, not surprised the Bombers picked up another ex-Riders receiver.     Meyers will be back by LDC if not sooner. 

 

My only concern is losing Carney, but it looks like Vaughters could be a good rotational player and he has a history with Mace.   Allen is good but we also have 3 good prospects to replace him in Hundeby, Wiebe, and Straker.  Nobody knew who Allen was at this time last year. 

LMAO. Migs don't ever change. Vaughters isn't good enough to belong in the same conversation as Carney, and you will soon find out that all stars leaving to be replaced by recruits isn't the slam dunk you think it is. Meyers might be back by Banjo Bowl, but at this point and time he is a Bengal and your receiving corps and depth is just a shell of what it was. Your DL even moreso. Trust me, if you think Vaughters is the answer you are smoking the real good stuff.

[JGD]

7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Ceresna isn't the prized signing imo. Broxton is. Ceresna is still effective though. Vaughters wasn't in CGY and certainly wasn't here.

I will say the loss of Nield might be helped with Wiebe as he could be a solid piece...jury is still out though. Certainly doesn't have the size. And like Mike said, the loss of depth may not seem like a big thing but come October you'll understand why it is.

Don't forget Ajou and DuncanBusby

[GCn20]

6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Ceresna isn't the prized signing imo. Broxton is. Ceresna is still effective though. Vaughters wasn't in CGY and certainly wasn't here.

I will say the loss of Nield might be helped with Wiebe as he could be a solid piece...jury is still out though. Certainly doesn't have the size. And like Mike said, the loss of depth may not seem like a big thing but come October you'll understand why it is.

Ceresna is 10x the DE that Vaughters is. I can't believe Migs is even trying to compare Vaughters to Carney or Ceresna, they are on a completely different level compared to Vaughters. Vaughters might be the worst starting DE in the CFL.

[JGD]

2 minutes ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

LMFAO yeah i wonder if maybe it was because he was playing hurt and his season ended after week 11. 

1 sack in 11 games?   ok then