Bombers at BC Sucks early chat

[rebusrankin]

Different right guard for BC in Parker.

[Mike]

4 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Nobody gonna ask wtf happened to J.Jones …scratched again?

I don’t get it but I know it ain’t changing so 

[M.O.A.B.]

3 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Nobody gonna ask wtf happened to J.Jones …scratched again?

C'mon. we can't put all the American we want to the AR. Who you gonna take out for J.Jones? By all accounts, T.Jones and Wilson were solid last game. 

[Booch]

13 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Cooley has that dog in him, as the kids would say. Haven’t seen an imp rb with powerful size and that mentality in a while.  They guy is not going to be a joy to try and tackle. 
 At some point some one probably tries to lower the boom on him and ends up picking up their own teeth. 

That’d normally be a good bet, but dl don’t generally get that. Last year adams came out of low levels of ncaa with a couple days at camp then played ps and quickly was playing heavy reps. 
 

 

yeah he was NCAA trained....and like ytou said...D-line once they rralize the 1 yard off rule can be dropped right in without issue...

 

6 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:

Nobody gonna ask wtf happened to J.Jones …scratched again?

victim of the Osh rostering/bias...Our best all around LB and one who can lay a thump...Gets parked behind a old breading down vet who cant be relied on for 18 games...another journeyman guy who has holes in his game

Pretty much the explanation there...release him and he is in any teams starting lineup the following week

3 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

C'mon. we can't put all the American we want to the AR. Who you gonna take out for J.Jones? By all accounts, T.Jones and Wilson were solid last game. 

so imagine what Jones would have looked like....He heads and shoulders better than both.....but ...................................

[rebusrankin]

J. Jones will get his shot at some point. This is Rebus's Lock of the Week Prediction and my Shoe in of the Week.

[Arnold_Palmer]

I see Tony Jones has become one of the new whipping boys for some reason. I know we had prime Bighill here for many years but Tony Jones is a damn good linebacker. 

[17to85]

3 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I see Tony Jones has become one of the new whipping boys for some reason. I know we had prime Bighill here for many years but Tony Jones is a damn good linebacker. 

Tony Jones is a damned ok linebacker.

Other Jones has way more upside.

[GCn20]

2 hours ago, Goalie said:

No issue with the depth chart here. Weitz Bailey? Honestly who cares. Weitz is prob the better sp teams player.

Exactly. We spend so much time around here grousing about the very bottom of the teams roster where realistically the impact on the game itself is minimal to non existent. Some guys want MOS fired for it? Makes absolutely zero sense to me. Honestly your last 4 spots on any given depth chart could be done with a coin flip and create no difference whatsoever. 

[Booch]

11 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I see Tony Jones has become one of the new whipping boys for some reason. I know we had prime Bighill here for many years but Tony Jones is a damn good linebacker. 

Tony Jones would be the ideal DI and a guy with rotational reps....He's not an elite MLB by any stretch ....Adequate, but why settle for adequate when you don't have to?

[JuranBoldenRules]

Here’s what I don’t like:

OL is 70 snaps a game and literally the heartbeat of your team, protecting the most precious assets of your team and creating your ability to score points.

Special teams…I’ll never discount the importance…but 15 plays a game and really we have the bodies to have a solid unit without Ayers.

Nuts to me to change the OL from last week.  They dominated that game and Vanterpool specifically.  Peterson had almost no yards after contact and ran for 130.  BO had another 50.

That’s the kind of decision that could easily lose you a game.

[GCn20]

15 minutes ago, Booch said:

yeah he was NCAA trained....and like ytou said...D-line once they rralize the 1 yard off rule can be dropped right in without issue...

 

victim of the Osh rostering/bias...Our best all around LB and one who can lay a thump...Gets parked behind a old breading down vet who cant be relied on for 18 games...another journeyman guy who has holes in his game

Pretty much the explanation there...release him and he is in any teams starting lineup the following week

so imagine what Jones would have looked like....He heads and shoulders better than both.....but ...................................

This is a pretty far out take. You may like J.Jones better but you don't have to make up **** to justify it. T.Jones is a good linebacker.

[Fatty Liver]

2 hours ago, GCn20 said:

I really like Cooley coming on as well, wish it wasnt at the expense of Vanterpool because he was a run block machine last week. However, I think that Wallace can equal his performance if he plays well.

Don't know if Wallace's contract is up this year, but keeping him a Bomber for the next 5 years is critical to the future success of the O-line, more so than any current player IMO.  Might have to push Neufeld or Stan out the door next off season if they want to keep Wallace, Randolph and Vanterpool as the next generation.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, GCn20 said:

Exactly. We spend so much time around here grousing about the very bottom of the teams roster where realistically the impact on the game itself is minimal to non existent. Some guys want MOS fired for it? Makes absolutely zero sense to me. Honestly your last 4 spots on any given depth chart could be done with a coin flip and create no difference whatsoever. 

Bailey tho wouldnt be a bottom of roster add tho...He would be a rotational piece on defence...as well as depth at a position we only have 2 guys rostered...both over 30 for that matter....thats the difference

Of Weitz is taking rotational depth or comes in for injury....we are in a bad place

That"s my issue with not rostering our best rosters...same with receiver...we have a National who was knicked...a back-up in a rookie Canadian with zero experience...and then........crickets....

[GCn20]

3 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Here’s what I don’t like:

OL is 70 snaps a game and literally the heartbeat of your team, protecting the most precious assets of your team and creating your ability to score points.

Special teams…I’ll never discount the importance…but 15 plays a game and really we have the bodies to have a solid unit without Ayers.

Nuts to me to change the OL from last week.  They dominated that game and Vanterpool specifically.  Peterson had almost no yards after contact and ran for 130.  BO had another 50.

That’s the kind of decision that could easily lose you a game.

Yes. I agree on that potentially being a rostering mistake. However, I will wait to see what Wallace does in case the coaches know more about these two players than I do. From a fan perspective though, it seems odd. Coaches must really love what Wallace is bringing in practice?

1 minute ago, Booch said:

Bailey tho wouldnt be a bottom of roster add tho...He would be a rotational piece on defence...as well as depth at a position we only have 2 guys rostered...both over 30 for that matter....thats the difference

Of Weitz is taking rotational depth or comes in for injury....we are in a bad place

That"s my issue with not rostering our best rosters...same with receiver...we have a National who was knicked...a back-up in a rookie Canadian with zero experience...and then........crickets....

Bailey would be a half a dozen snaps max.  Won't be a difference. I do get what you are saying that we could probably change a couple or three spots on the roster and upgrade them ON PAPER, but really at this part the depth chart I am willing to let the coach reward guys etc for work ethic etc. Why? because it won't really have much, if any of an impact anyway.

Edited 4 hours ago by GCn20

[Fatty Liver]

2 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

This is a pretty far out take. You may like J.Jones better but you don't have to make up **** to justify it. T.Jones is a good linebacker.

From recent comments O'Shea seems pretty happy with Tony Jones play.

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

This is a pretty far out take. You may like J.Jones better but you don't have to make up **** to justify it. T.Jones is a good linebacker.

nor do you to the contrary....it' hardly a far take.....just watch him....You always pump Osh's yires that he does no wrong and anyone who disagrees with it is far reaching or lacks any substance

Jones is a good line backer....do you not want better?...If you put the both in a bowl and asked every G.M to pick one...I bet they all go J.JOnes...and thats just not "my" opinion

Carry on

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yes. I agree on that potentially being a rostering mistake. However, I will wait to see what Wallace does in case the coaches know more about these two players than I do. From a fan perspective though, it seems odd. Coaches must really love what Wallace is bringing in practice?

Bailey would be a half a dozen snaps max. 

and weitz zero....nuff said

But Bailey would get more than 6

1 minute ago, Fatty Liver said:

From recent comments O'Shea seems pretty happy with Tony Jones play.

as he has been with many others too...which means not much other than Osh has guys he likes over the guys who could be better

[ShyGuy]

12 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Here’s what I don’t like:

OL is 70 snaps a game and literally the heartbeat of your team, protecting the most precious assets of your team and creating your ability to score points.

Special teams…I’ll never discount the importance…but 15 plays a game and really we have the bodies to have a solid unit without Ayers.

Nuts to me to change the OL from last week.  They dominated that game and Vanterpool specifically.  Peterson had almost no yards after contact and ran for 130.  BO had another 50.

That’s the kind of decision that could easily lose you a game.

PFF has Peterson marked down for 88 yards after contact

 

https://www.cfl.ca/2025/06/16/5-pff-stats-that-stand-out-from-week-2/

 

Who knows how they define contact though 

[GCn20]

6 minutes ago, Booch said:

nor do you to the contrary....it' hardly a far take.....just watch him....You always pump Osh's yires that he does no wrong and anyone who disagrees with it is far reaching or lacks any substance

Jones is a good line backer....do you not want better?...If you put the both in a bowl and asked every G.M to pick one...I bet they all go J.JOnes...and thats just not "my" opinion

Carry on

and weitz zero....nuff said

But Bailey would get more than 6

as he has been with many others too...which means not much other than Osh has guys he likes over the guys who could be better

You can't possibly know that, and that makes it your opinion vs fact. That's how opinion vs. fact works,

7 minutes ago, Booch said:

nor do you to the contrary....it' hardly a far take.....just watch him....You always pump Osh's yires that he does no wrong and anyone who disagrees with it is far reaching or lacks any substance

Jones is a good line backer....do you not want better?...If you put the both in a bowl and asked every G.M to pick one...I bet they all go J.JOnes...and thats just not "my" opinion

Carry on

and weitz zero....nuff said

But Bailey would get more than 6

as he has been with many others too...which means not much other than Osh has guys he likes over the guys who could be better

COULD BE being the operative word. Tony Jones played very well last week.

[Fatty Liver]

8 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yes. I agree on that potentially being a rostering mistake. However, I will wait to see what Wallace does in case the coaches know more about these two players than I do. From a fan perspective though, it seems odd. Coaches must really love what Wallace is bringing in practice?

Bailey would be a half a dozen snaps max. 

Wallace played the majority of 2 games last season when Neufeld and Stan went down, one was against Hamilton the other may have been against the Riders.  It was supposed to be Eli, but Wallace took over and did fine, nobody overpowered him or blew his doors off.

[Booch]

2 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

You can't possibly know that, and that makes it your opinion vs fact. That's how opinion vs. fact works,

COULD BE being the operative word. Tony Jones played very well last week.

J,Jones has played better than well before in the CFL....and did so in our pre-season....Guess I should have said definately would as opposed to could as now you are nitpicking

And its not an opinion...I have had some people within the league ask me if Jones was hurt and why he not on active roster...or if it just a case of coaches preference....as it's insane he not

2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:

Wallace played the majority of 2 games last season when Neufeld and Stan went down, one was against Hamilton the other may have been against the Riders.  It was supposed to be Eli, but Wallace took over and did fine, nobody overpowered him or blew his doors off.

I not worried about Wallace

[wbbfan]

35 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

I see Tony Jones has become one of the new whipping boys for some reason. I know we had prime Bighill here for many years but Tony Jones is a damn good linebacker. 

Jones is one of the best run stop lbers, but well below par for pass d. Kyrie is shot. 
Jones isn’t close to the heap pile guys. He’s just sub optimal. 
 

Best case is probably tj plays run downs comes off in most pass downs unless it’s short distance. Jjones is better straight up. &nbsp
 It’s just strange to get jjones and be married to tjones. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

8 minutes ago, ShyGuy said:

PFF has Peterson marked down for 88 yards after contact

 

https://www.cfl.ca/2025/06/16/5-pff-stats-that-stand-out-from-week-2/

 

Who knows how they define contact though 

Likely counting an arm right at the line on the TD run.

To me if he had a crease he hit it, if there was muck he got a couple yards.  Which is fine…but he’s the type of back that really needs the OL to move bodies.  So if we’re rolling with him for some games here, keep that OL together.  Pass protection was also flawless.  To me this is an unnecessary risk.  I hope Wallace is great, but we’re down to Eli too if someone goes down and he has never shown well playing anywhere but tight end.

[M.O.A.B.]

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[JuranBoldenRules]

2 hours ago, Mike said:

I honestly don’t understand Weitz over Bailey at all, I don’t understand how that makes any level of sense 

Maybe Bailey isn’t good.  He didn’t exactly jump off the page to me in the preseason games and he’s in one of the easiest positions to do that even with poor camera angles.

He has a bit of an advantage to stick around being Global but maybe he’s not very useful on special teams either.  Maybe he’s Big Sky’s Faith Ekakitie.

[K-Shack]

1 hour ago, rebusrankin said:

Can he play linebacker?

He'll play center linebacker!