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[Noeller]

It's the concussions I worry about the most.... But since he went full White Wolf in Wakanda, it seems like things are better... Here's hoping! Might be my all time favourite player...

[BomberBall.]

27 minutes ago, Pete Catan's Ghost said:

Lebrun said there was a ton of interest when it was first announced that Toews was serious (haha) about coming back. 

Interesting.  I’m surprised by that.  Older guy, hasn’t played in a couple years, has some health concerns….  Maybe the agent trying to fan some flames?  Regardless, hopefully he’s in good shape and has some juice left.  Could be a cool story.

[Pete Catan's Ghost]

6 minutes ago, BomberBall. said:

Interesting.  I’m surprised by that.  Older guy, hasn’t played in a couple years, has some health concerns….  Maybe the agent trying to fan some flames?  Regardless, hopefully he’s in good shape and has some juice left.  Could be a cool story.

Tire kickers

[kelownabomberfan]

39 minutes ago, Noeller said:

It's the concussions I worry about the most.... But since he went full White Wolf in Wakanda, it seems like things are better... Here's hoping! Might be my all time favourite player...

[Tony Fresco]

I sense a Rolex may be in David Gustafsson's future in exchange for #19.

[bigg jay]

1 hour ago, kelownabomberfan said:

In the MCU, Bucky goes to Wakanda in order to hide/heal while in the real world, Toews was out in India trying to get healthy.  

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the Avengers to split up and Rogers is forced to hide Barnes in Wakanda, where Shuri eventually cures him of his programming and is given a new code name, White Wolf.

Bucky Barnes (Marvel Cinematic Universe) - Wikipedia

Toews 'on healing journey' in India after health issues derailed career with Blackhawks | NHL.com

[FrostyWinnipeg]

4 hours ago, BomberBall. said:

Hopefully he’s got something left.  Should at least help us with faceoffs.  Makes sense for him to sign here…. I doubt there was a lot of competition for his services.

I could see CHI taking a flyer with near-zero talent left on that team. Would not offer more then min wage considering they already paid him 120m.

[Goalie]

41 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

I could see CHI taking a flyer with near-zero talent left on that team. Would not offer more then min wage considering they already paid him 120m.

Why would Toews wanna sign with a team who has less than zero percent chance of winning? It was Winnipeg or Colorado they say. Winnipeg all along. Dude isn’t coming back for fun, he wants to win. He was never signing with a bottom feeder and that’s what Chicago will be. I’d bet it was like this… Toews agent asks JT who he wants to play for, JT says Winnipeg but if they aren’t interested I’d be open to Colorado or another good team. Jets were beyond interested. I’m pretty convinced the only way Toews wasn’t gonna be a jet is if the Jets weren’t interested 

Edited 23 hours ago by Goalie

[TrueBlue4ever]

Does this signing spur Ehlers at all to stay? We can’t offer him a first line role, but if we have a stronger second line that allows him to get 1A line minutes and point production, is that enough to keep him here?

[Noeller]

14 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Does this signing spur Ehlers at all to stay? We can’t offer him a first line role, but if we have a stronger second line that allows him to get 1A line minutes and point production, is that enough to keep him here?

Or does this signing mean he's for sure gone and we're using his potential cap space... Cause JT *could* cost as much as 7- Million in cap space next year if he hits all his bonuses 

[Rich]

15 minutes ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Does this signing spur Ehlers at all to stay? We can’t offer him a first line role, but if we have a stronger second line that allows him to get 1A line minutes and point production, is that enough to keep him here?

We can't pay him what he will likely get in free agency.  Don't think this changes anythying.

[bustamente]

 

[Goalie]

18 hours ago, Rich said:

We can't pay him what he will likely get in free agency.  Don't think this changes anythying.

9 million for Ehlers is insane. He’s never hit 60 points and doesn’t play all 82 ever. Thing is tho say he gets 9 and is 9 x 7 years. That’s 63 million max. Jets could offer 8 (still pretty high considering Corey Perry had more playoff goals at age 40 than Ehlers does his entire career) but 8 million x 8 years (only jets can offer the 8th year) 64 million. 
 

personally I don’t think he’s worth it cuz once he loses his speed he’s finished. I don’t think he’s a top line guy on a contender, his injury history is just long. And he’s not consistent playoff performer at all. I’d prob be comfortable 7 x 7. Even 7 x 5 or 6 years but yup someone will overpay and be stupid. We will replace him with a couple value signings I feel. I think JT could attract some potential free agents. Rumors are P Kane could be one. Perfetti Toews Kane? 

Edited 3 hours ago by Goalie

[HardCoreBlue]

22 minutes ago, Goalie said:

9 million for Ehlers is insane. He’s never hit 60 points and doesn’t play all 82 ever. Thing is tho say he gets 9 and is 9 x 7 years. That’s 63 million max. Jets could offer 8 (still pretty high considering Corey Perry had more playoff goals at age 40 than Ehlers does his entire career) but 8 million x 8 years (only jets can offer the 8th year) 64 million. 
 

personally I don’t think he’s worth it cuz once he loses his speed he’s finished. I don’t think he’s a top line guy on a contender, his injury history is just long. And he’s not consistent playoff performer at all. I’d prob be comfortable 7 x 7. Even 7 x 5 or 6 years but yup someone will overpay and be stupid. We will replace him with a couple value signings I feel. I think JT could attract some potential free agents. Rumors are P Kane could be one. Perfetti Toews Kane? 

P Kane in Jet colours? Weird.

[TrueBlue4ever]

19 hours ago, Noeller said:

Or does this signing mean he's for sure gone and we're using his potential cap space... Cause JT *could* cost as much as 7- Million in cap space next year if he hits all his bonuses 

Does anyone know what Toews’ cap hit will be? I think bonus money counts up front, but is a playoff bonus different. A $2 million cap hit would be great, but a $7 million cap hit is an overpay. 

40 minutes ago, Goalie said:

9 million for Ehlers is insane. 

And he may well get that on the open market. Then my big concern is if that is the bar set, how much will Kyle Connor cost us in his next contract. Hope to see an extension on him soon at $9.5 million before the free agency lunacy drives up his price to &12-13 million per. 

[Goalie]

KC a big Winnipeg fan. I wouldn’t be surprised if an extension is announced when it can be or shortly after. He’s part of Helles crew with Iafallo now samberg Perfetti and pionk. Big ice fishing and hunting and regular fishing guy. Likely to see KC on the water or in the bushes. Top line guy also. KC is what some ppl think Ehlers is. He’s our goal scorer. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Goalie

[Tony Fresco]

1 hour ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Does anyone know what Toews’ cap hit will be? I think bonus money counts up front, but is a playoff bonus different. A $2 million cap hit would be great, but a $7 million cap hit is an overpay. 

 

My understanding is that it counts initially as $2M, but any bonuses earned has to get absorbed either in this year's cap or any overage gets applied to next years, which is already going up.   I suspect the Jets likely treat it internally as a $5M hit for now, which covers the games played bonuses.  If he's not playing / performing, you have room to add at the deadline.  If he's performing, then he's certainly worth the $5M-$7M hit.