Guest J5V Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 51 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: If we don't win this weekend & we give up a ton of yards defensively, all you guys here will want Hall's head on a platter. That's how this place rolls. Nope. Not all. Blue Koolaid is potent. Look at that junkie theaardvark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 12 hours ago, J5V said: Nope. Not all. Blue Koolaid is potent. Look at that junkie theaardvark. He's not as bad as pjrocksmb, that drunk clown is as blind as a bat to Richie Hall's awfulness. Either that or he's related to him. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 If hiring a coach who has won a Grey Cup in Winnipeg is some people's sole criterion... good luck getting Mike Riley out of Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, bluto said: If hiring a coach who has won a Grey Cup in Winnipeg is some people's sole criterion... good luck getting Mike Riley out of Nebraska I don't think that was exactly the point. Think the point is Richie Hall isn't some great DC that people think he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, USABomberfan said: I don't think that was exactly the point. Think the point is Richie Hall isn't some great DC that people think he is. you have zero reading comprehension skills if you think anyone here believes Richie Hall is a great DC. Nobody has ever made that claim. People have said hes serviceable, we can win with him if the team plays like it can, etc etc. If we win the GC, I have no issue with him remaining until the wheels fall completely off. I don't mind a defense that bends and doesn't break. I like the turnovers and pressure. Hall's an enigma to me. He has the defense playing lights out some games, others they look like pee-wee ballers.. consistency needs to be better and then I'd consider calling him good to better lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, SPuDS said: you have zero reading comprehension skills if you think anyone here believes Richie Hall is a great DC. Nobody has ever made that claim. People have said hes serviceable, we can win with him if the team plays like it can, etc etc. If we win the GC, I have no issue with him remaining until the wheels fall completely off. I don't mind a defense that bends and doesn't break. I like the turnovers and pressure. Hall's an enigma to me. He has the defense playing lights out some games, others they look like pee-wee ballers.. consistency needs to be better and then I'd consider calling him good to better lol. 1. Atomic may not have directly made that claim, but his reference to the 2 grey cups Hall happened to benefit from with Austin and Chamblin winning them implies it 2. Hence why he's the equivalent of Marcel Bellefeuille coaching defense Edited November 9, 2017 by USABomberfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, USABomberfan said: 1. Atomic may not have directly made that claim, but his reference to the 2 grey cups Hall happened to benefit from with Austin and Chamblin winning them implies it 2. Hence why he's the equivalent of Marcel Bellefeuille coaching defense That's a trumpian level of leap to connect things imo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nate007 Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 58 minutes ago, bluto said: If hiring a coach who has won a Grey Cup in Winnipeg is some people's sole criterion... good luck getting Mike Riley out of Nebraska The way things are going in Nebraska, he'll be available in about two months (or less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just now, nate007 said: The way things are going in Nebraska, he'll be available in about two months (or less). I'm betting once his tenure is up there he's going to retire from football for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 My ears are burning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 3 hours ago, SPuDS said: you have zero reading comprehension skills if you think anyone here believes Richie Hall is a great DC. Nobody has ever made that claim. People have said hes serviceable, we can win with him if the team plays like it can, etc etc. If we win the GC, I have no issue with him remaining until the wheels fall completely off. I don't mind a defense that bends and doesn't break. I like the turnovers and pressure. Hall's an enigma to me. He has the defense playing lights out some games, others they look like pee-wee ballers.. consistency needs to be better and then I'd consider calling him good to better lol. Maybe it's the circles I run in but as long as I have been around football as a fan and as a coach, I don't think I have ever actually heard a defensive coordinator describe his defense this way. I've never heard a defensive guy say we are going to give up tons of yardage but will hold them when it matters. Most defensive coordinators I know and hear from scheme their defense to their existing talent base to maximize two and outs and to force turnovers. If there is a creature like this that describes his defense as a bend don't break, I'd get that out from them in the interview hiring process and would not let him anywhere near my team. USABomberfan and Mark F 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Jim Daley and the "lets try to contain them" defense. I still have nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 21 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said: Maybe it's the circles I run in but as long as I have been around football as a fan and as a coach, I don't think I have ever actually heard a defensive coordinator describe his defense this way. I've never heard a defensive guy say we are going to give up tons of yardage but will hold them when it matters. Most defensive coordinators I know and hear from scheme their defense to their existing talent base to maximize two and outs and to force turnovers. If there is a creature like this that describes his defense as a bend don't break, I'd get that out from them in the interview hiring process and would not let him anywhere near my team. Both Hall, O'shea and even to an extent Edmtonton have mentioned they utilize a defense that employs this method. Not sure who you've been talking to but its common enough to me.. hell, teams have been using variations of bend but don't break for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 Hmmm, I seem to recall MOS said once he's not a huge fan of bend but don't break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPuDS Posted November 9, 2017 Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, USABomberfan said: Hmmm, I seem to recall MOS said once he's not a huge fan of bend but don't break dood. do you even read the posts? I never said he liked them, only that they use the style of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, SPuDS said: dood. do you even read the posts? I never said he liked them, only that they use the style of defense. No need to get worked up ... DOOD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Both O'Shea and Hall deny that their D scheme is "bend but don't break" and they've denied it several times over the past two years. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said: Both O'Shea and Hall deny that their D scheme is "bend but don't break" and they've denied it several times over the past two years. Sheesh. Thats the kind of thing that makes me trust whatever mike oshea says in the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 16 hours ago, USABomberfan said: Hmmm, I seem to recall MOS said once he's not a huge fan of bend but don't break Interesting. The best D he ever played in was usually referred to as BBDB... SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 Have we forgotten about the legendary Stubler bend but don’t break D already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I maintain that part of the reason the Bombers generate as many turnovers as they do is because opponents get impatient and don't take the dink and dunk stuff that is there. SPuDS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBBFanWest Posted November 10, 2017 Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 I believe that Richie Hall has described his defense as "a systematic withdrawal until such time as a demarcation line is crossed, at which point resistance is fortified". This is NOT "bend but don't break". Fatty Liver, blue_gold_84, USABomberfan and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABomberfan Posted November 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2017 5 hours ago, Blueandgold said: Have we forgotten about the legendary Stubler bend but don’t break D already? I think people are confusing bend but don't break with break your offense down defense. Stubler's philosophy always has and always is make em earn every yard and shut em down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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